Here's another consideration too...as you are culling your list to 100 you might want to change your profile settings to adjust who sees your pics. If you had a large friends list and restricted the viewing of your pics to friends only, then you might want to change that so those newly "deleted" people can still see your pics.
Also, I wish to apologize to those that deleted me, because then I deleted you. I did not know of this until I read the discusion forum. I guess I should expect more deletions soon. Later.
well if there got to be a limit on friends why cant you fix it where it will not be in alphabetical order but where you can put your friends in any order you like. like maybe a top friends list because i have made a lot of friends on here and now if your name does not start an a b or c you cant be on my friends list
while that sucks, if that's his response to it then it sounds like he wasn't really much of a true friend. Especially if he banned you now so you can't even write him back. Real friends don't say that kind of stuff to each other, period!
You're going to lose alot of members here ADMIN ... I remember when this site was the greatest thing ever , but now it's gone by the wayside ! Like everything else in this world "Greed for money ... got the best of you" !!!
Well this sucks !!! Only because your forcing All the members here to become paying members ! I have been here since July 2009 and have made alot friends along the way , and I actually do know most by first name and have become close to most of them ! This new system really sucks , because now my good friends are being deleted from my friends list and I am sad to hear this site is going to force all there members to become a pay site !
ARE THERE OTHER SITES LIKE THIS THAT AREN"T PAY SITES ????
I guess nothing lasts forever , and I always thought of everyone here like family , one big happy family that has to all be weeded out because of this site going to become a Pay Site So to all the friends I have made along the way ... I want to Thank You personally for All the great conversations and friendships ! I'm probably going to get deleted myself for voicing my oppinion , so again Thanks for all the fun times here ... it's been great !
Love you all and I will surely miss you all as well , ....
Rob , the "CreativeOne" @}-;-'--- Now , "1XSpurt"
^..^_____!
I think everyone here is going to move on to other sites !
I cannot purchase more powerful db server. The one I use is already quite powerful as is. As simple as that. If I'm loosing members so be it. But from what I can see only 3% of members have more than 100 friends and most of them never paid anything for the site.
Well, the only way to use phone to pay for sites are SMS billings. But their plans are ridiculous. They usually do not allow to set up prices. They offer fixed plans like $2 or $5 and only pay 40-50% of the charge leaving the rest to them and phone companies.
You can still talk to ppl even if they are not on a list fucker and you better not be going anywhere But I get it.. Still I dont think it will become a paid site and there does need to be more benifits for paid members imo. so if you like the site and your friends here so much (like I do) fuck it, pay a few bucks a month
I add people as friends so that they can see the full resolution photos and I can see theirs, simple as that. Looking at my friends page, have a ton grayed out. I'll spend some time looking through and re-considering each profile, that could take some time!!! Ah well, in a way, you're all friends to me!
Maybe we can just unlock the full resolution photos to all logged in members of the site, then there wouldn't really be a huge *need* for "friends". All good whatever happens, still
Well, if I do this, bandwidth consumption will skyrocket. It was done for a reason. Many members upload 1.5-2mb images. It does not make much sense to me because I don't see much difference between 70kb 600x400 image of a penis and 2mb 3000x2000 image of the same penis, but people do this. And when this site started to consume over 200Gb per day 2 years ago, I introduced forced small resolution images. Big resolution was meant to be a premium feature. "Friends" allow you to bypass that, but it was never meant that everyone adds everyone to the friends as some of you are trying to do. I made that just to encourage people to make acquaintances on the site, not for the purpose that members can brainlessly add everyone to the friends.
Now I hope that the limitation will return the initial meaning of "friends".
I have nothing against anarchy, chaos or unlimited possibilities, but reality simply does not allow that.
"someone" spoke about Facebook above, but does he know that Facebook uses over 60'000 servers as by now? Running costs for those are tens if not hundreds millions of dollars per month.
Hi i know, but i'm maybe not to good in informatics, but is there no other ways to increase your server load, like the thing i said about the limit of pics from members?
thanks for your time
Even many of those who work daily with SQL servers rarely understand how they function until they stumble upon problems with large databases.
Shortly speaking - problem is not the friend table itself, problem begins when someone adds hundreds of friends and then refreshes "friends recent uploads" every 20 seconds, because then the server has to go through 500'000 of images and see which of them belong to the friends of this member, then sort them in order where last goes first and in all existing SQL implementation it takes A LOT of time contrary to the natural first to last order.
It's not about disc space or memory, it's about calculations and they increase drastically as count of friends and images grow. I could implement some bypasses by now, and I did something to the "friends recent uploads" page but soon enough I would run into the same problem.
Actually at first I was not going to put any limitations just made some changes to the "friends recent uploads" page, but then I saw that some members added over 10'000 of members to their friends, one even added all 42'000 (probably with some kind of script) and decided that it had to be limited. As someone here wrote - friends are not about quantity, they are about quality.
I for one have a large friends list, but I have never used the "Recent Uploads by my Friends" feature and therefore never used the refresh to re-sort all of those records. My reason for a large friends list was for other purposes. I would like to be able to just delete my entire friends list and be done with it and not bother with that feature, as it would be too difficult to determine to keep or delete. I communicate by commenting on individual pics that I like as I browse through the "Most Recent Uploads" each day. And I comment through Private Messaging as well....I don't need the Friends list and I'll just not bother with watching videos. I would donate money to the cause if there was another way to do it other than via credit cards. I really do like this site and have had many hours of enjoyment being here, and I do not want my profile to be a hindrance to the system performace.
I have about 300 people on my friend list. I don't consider that a lot and planned to add maybe 100 more.
I understand your need to make this decision, and also that some people are disproportionate users of resources and bandwidth on this site. (10,000 friends is ridiculous!!!!) But I recommend that you rethink your decision to make the cutoff at only 100 friends. That's simply too low and will drive many to other sites, such as xhamster.
My advice would be to raise the cutoff to several hundred. That's all. Thanks for listening.
i know that much of the members who helped to bring the site this way like it was till last week, will maybe dissappear and search other sites, there are many members who liked talking with others and becomming "friends" with one or the other. good friendships we made here. As example we can take "facebook" i have more then 500 friends who i know personally by name and add still people on facebook, wwhy can't it be here like that?
I canceled premium because I want to add more people; I now have to go diamond as a result. It it supposed to kick in when the current membership expires.
I wondered about all the members in gray. I hope they aren't just going to drop off my list(?!)
I liked adding anyone whose pics i liked, so that i can just check my friends recent uploads for new ones by them. over a couple months, those friends can add up. i think i have like 500 friends or so. but that's just cause there are so many hot guys here! so i guess i'll try to trim down to just the guys i chat the most with. i my appologies to all i delete, it's nothing personal.
I believe everyone needs to understand , when the site has problems, we all have a problems, and most of us do not know the costs, or what is involved in even doing this, but i do know computers, (I build them for fun), it doesn't take much to create bottlenecks, so I feel maybe admin, could tell us all what things in excess could cause him problems, and lets see what we could do to make it more of a smooth operation for him and the site, and we could pass this on to the other members as well. Whether its friends or to many pics, favorite pics, etc. Let us know where to start where we can start a fall cleaning per say.
this kinda sucks for those of us members who've been forced by others into making their pics for friends only in order to prevent points from being burned by voting against pics. I think the burning of points by voting against pics should be taken away as well then we can all show our pics as was intended.
Voting makes the site unique.. we all get voted against. I dont like to pay my taxes either And you can never please everyone, different strokes for different folks!
fuck u then bitch
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Uhhh....since you banned me now, I can't tell you that I didn't want to do it.
100 is kind of low if you've been here awhile.
you could even let people have 3,000 friends if the problem is really those few with 10,000.
Well this sucks !!! Only because your forcing All the members here to become paying members ! I have been here since July 2009 and have made alot friends along the way , and I actually do know most by first name and have become close to most of them ! This new system really sucks , because now my good friends are being deleted from my friends list and I am sad to hear this site is going to force all there members to become a pay site !
ARE THERE OTHER SITES LIKE THIS THAT AREN"T PAY SITES ????
I guess nothing lasts forever , and I always thought of everyone here like family , one big happy family that has to all be weeded out because of this site going to become a Pay Site
Rob , the "CreativeOne" @}-;-'--- Now , "1XSpurt"
^..^_____!
I think everyone here is going to move on to other sites !
Maybe we can just unlock the full resolution photos to all logged in members of the site, then there wouldn't really be a huge *need* for "friends". All good whatever happens, still
Now I hope that the limitation will return the initial meaning of "friends".
The only thing that will satisfy some is anarchy and chaos!!
Quit whining! Friends should be counted by quality not quantity.
If you think you can run the site better.....get with admin and invest!!!!
Those who can, do. Those who can't, whine.
....care fore some cheese to go with that whine?
"someone" spoke about Facebook above, but does he know that Facebook uses over 60'000 servers as by now? Running costs for those are tens if not hundreds millions of dollars per month.
thanks for your time
Shortly speaking - problem is not the friend table itself, problem begins when someone adds hundreds of friends and then refreshes "friends recent uploads" every 20 seconds, because then the server has to go through 500'000 of images and see which of them belong to the friends of this member, then sort them in order where last goes first and in all existing SQL implementation it takes A LOT of time contrary to the natural first to last order.
It's not about disc space or memory, it's about calculations and they increase drastically as count of friends and images grow. I could implement some bypasses by now, and I did something to the "friends recent uploads" page but soon enough I would run into the same problem.
Actually at first I was not going to put any limitations just made some changes to the "friends recent uploads" page, but then I saw that some members added over 10'000 of members to their friends, one even added all 42'000 (probably with some kind of script) and decided that it had to be limited. As someone here wrote - friends are not about quantity, they are about quality.
I understand your need to make this decision, and also that some people are disproportionate users of resources and bandwidth on this site. (10,000 friends is ridiculous!!!!) But I recommend that you rethink your decision to make the cutoff at only 100 friends. That's simply too low and will drive many to other sites, such as xhamster.
My advice would be to raise the cutoff to several hundred. That's all. Thanks for listening.
I wondered about all the members in gray. I hope they aren't just going to drop off my list(?!)
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