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Started by #3034 [Ignore] 02,Dec,09 18:17
New Comment Rating: 0 Similar topics: 1.Should they legalize Marijuana? Either medically or for personal use? Comments: | ||
Btw the planet would be a lot greener today if we continued to use hemp to its full potential
Again there has never been any death directly linked to dope that fact that you claim to no 2 is either bullshit or you are saying they have had accidents while high , this happens a lot more with alcohol than weed speak to any er nurse .
Think what you like the laws are already changing. Although medical mj is legal in some us states its stilll agaisnt us federal law but is mostly ignored. Denver has passed the alcohol vs marijuana act . And i live in a state where small amounts are already decriminlised meaning its easy to get and i can grow my 1 plant a year.
Think what you like there is a bigger world out there beyond you and your experiences
But there are thousands of alcohol-infused homicides (mostly "kitchen knife-fights") per year in countries like Russia or Poland, where heavy drinking is very common. Basically it's a whole eastern Europe. Also thousands of deaths per year caused by drunk drivers.
I can add to that thousands of deaths from brain hemorrhage or heart attacks also induced by excessive alcohol consumption. Numerous deaths from cirrhosis - "liver cancer" caused mostly by the same reason.
I do not want to involve myself in your discussion, but saying that alcohol cause less problems than weed is just ridiculous. Saying that no one died because of alcohol even more so.
P.S. here is a link - only registered users can see external links Deaths caused by alcohol this year: over 2 millions, there is a counter.
And stop flooding for gods sake, it's annoying.
Your claim that alcohol is not directly related to deaths is absurd. Have you been to a victims impact sponsored by MADD? Have you gotten any statements from **** officials who deal with both of these on a daily basis? I have been around drinkers and stoners all my life, I don't do either anymore because I like to have my wits about me. Guess what, if I had to chose between someone who drank too much and someone who smoked to much to care for my ****, I would choose the smoker. I have seen the immense damage caused by the negligence of alcohol users both damaging themselves and others around them since I was a ****. My mother's first husband was an abusive alcoholic. My mother only found the courage to leave him when she caught him shaking my 2 year old **** outside a bar because he was crying. He died two years after they divorced from scirosis of the liver.
In my life I have seen at least 20 people die as the direct results of excessive alcohol use. I have not seen anyone die yet directly from the excessive use of marijuana. If you are claiming that smoking is dmaging that is true, but they now have vaporizers both for nicotine and any other oil that use to be smoked.
Here is one of your responses earlier in this thread. You insinuated exactly that with this line of reasoning based on your anecdotal evidence. Otherwise you were just blowing smoke by posting this here, as you do more often than not.
2.) A friend from highschool did the same is died several years ago.
3.) A co corker was drunk when he robbed one liquor store (or a case of bud, a pint of Jack Daniels and all the money in the cas register) and was walking to the second when a local police officer pulled up. The police ordered him to hault, the coworker pulled out his gun and shot twice into the cruiser. The police officer was an escellent marxman and shot him dead on the spot. This story was on CNN.
4.) A neighbor committed suicide after years of over drinking.
5.) One of my friends lost one leg from a drunk driving accident. She was intoxicated but the other driver could not even walk.
6.) In highschool I was rearended at a stop light by a guy who could not even walk, he was traveling at about 45. If it were another car (not the 74 Buick Skylark) my girlfriend and I would have been seriously injured or dead.
7.) One night while traveling down Rte 32 in Willington CT my girlfriend and I came across a vehicle that was overturned on the other side of the road. I found out later that the deceased was 3 times over the limit.
8.) A mailman I knew in Miami also pickled his liver and died of Scirosis.
9.) I came across a two car collission in Miami where people in one vehicle were all dead. The driver from the other vehicle was not seriously injured though he was intoxicated and did total his vehicle.
10.) The mother of one of my best friends from college also died from alcoholism. He told me that when he went to he apartment in New Orleans in the last year of her life there was **** all over the walls from a disintegrated esophogus valve.
11.) Which brings to the most recent case of my friend Sean, and he was one of those amorous drunks who was never violent, had damaged his esophoguc valve so much that he was puking up and spitting up **** just before they did an emergency procedure last March to save his life. The Dr told him that he had a 50/50 chance of surviving the procedure. Fortunately he did and has been sober ever since.
And there are many many more that I personally know of.
Now how many of my heavy pot smoking acquaintances have even gotten near this type of damage and risk to their lives? I would say none. They may get lethargic, lay on the couch and eat too much, and often seem like they are taking stupid pills. But the damage is not nearly as extensive. Almost eveyone I talk to including people who would rather drink agree that alcohol has cost them much more than the pot smokers they know.
But just to make it clear I was not the one who brought up the anecdotal evidence as support for a claim that alcohol is less damaging in regard to life and finances as marijuana. So I am only following suit here in regard to this kind of evidence. I am completely willing to look at statistical evidence here.
If your point is that in your personal experience you do not know anyone whose death is directly related to alcohol, then your response that I quoted is irrelevant to the subject being addressed. Do you understand the difference?
Howevler my whole argument this whole time is alcohol does more overall damage to people and society than weed yet is not only legal but promoted
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