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So, in the US at least, white lives matter more.
Conservitives for the most part,support the police and law and order ,of course there were bad apples that some have said were Antifa and BLM wearing trump atire to make things worse and to discredit Trump supporters.
Just because I question your veiw on this does not mean I think they should have went in guns a blazen.They went to far when they damaged things and hurt people.To walk in front of that place making enough noise to wake up the dead,yea,go for it.OUR rights to free speech and assembly,which are both being violated in the name of security now.People should STILL be protesting in front of that place.But they can't because our freedom of assembly is being violated.
But Killing that woman that was empty handed,just standing there,I can't get past that being a situation of undue agression on the part of the cops.
Our rights have been under seige for a year now roughly. Don't go out,wear a mask,stay 6 apart,don't speak out against the rigged election results,etc.People being shut off from their President on social media,the modern equivelant of being able to go to the park and listen to a speach or to turn on the radio .
There's an old saying by Edmund Burke
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”― Edmund Burke
The majority of terror attacks in your country is from the right-wing:
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You don't recall, because the media you consume doesn't talk about it.
You have heard about Dylann Roof right? Thing like that happen much more often, but if it's on a smaller scale, it doesn't even get mentioned anymore.
Why would you take that personally. Do you feel like you're an extremist?
People don't seem to realize,just how much more tragic that situation could have really been had those folks REALLY wanted to be VIOLENT. I saw windows being broken,some wacks with sticks and etc,but the "militas" were not fireing automatic weapons and killing dozens of people. 99.999999 % of the people that went in there did not want to harm a soul.They wanted their voices heard.
It was an angry violent mob. Your right that it could have escalated to something much worse, but a cop had to beg for his life while the rioters were deliberating about shooting him with his own gun. You're always so supportive of the cops, but that stops immediately when they are not completely on your side for once, even if the cops would have wanted to be.
A cop having to use the fact he has kids is kinda sad.He should have thought about his kids when he chose his line of work.
You don't think AOC was in any danger from those guys. They had a gallows outside for Pence and Pelosi. How would AOC have been treated if they ran into her?
I'm interested in your source about AOC. Newsmax?
Never heard from you that cops shouldn't have children before. You have been defending their deadly force on any blacks until now. Do you think that cop should have started shooting, instead of begging for his life? He was in a lot more danger than the cop who killed Philando Castile or the one that shot Jacob Blake in the back seven times.
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IF a cop is concerned about his kids,he needs to find another line of work,not use that fact to wimp out from a fight or doing his job.
"Ocasio-Cortez never claimed she was in the main domed Capitol building during the melee. In fact, in her video explaining her experience of the insurrection, she made a point to clarify that she was in her congressional office in a different building nearby."
AOC's office is across the street from the main Capitol building, in the Cannon building, which AP reporters on the scene confirmed was evacuated during the riots.
The Cannon building is also connected to the Capitol building by a series of tunnels, which allow members of Congress to travel between buildings underground.
Those tunnels were mentioned in some earlier communications between militia members charged in the insurrection, suggesting rioters planned to use them to attack members of Congress.
AOC also never claimed she encountered rioters personally, despite false posts claiming she did.
AOC said on Instagram: “For you all to know, there’s the Capitol Hill complex, But members of Congress, except for, you know, the speaker and other very, very high ranking ones, don’t actually work in a building with the dome. There’s buildings like right next to the dome, and that’s where our actual offices are.”
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More than 140 law enforcement officers suffered physical injuries.
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Now show your videos of BLM doing something like that.
Injury is a risk of a officers job.Can't hack it,go drive a church bus.
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It was certainly not peaceful, but we have seen similar violence from our anti Covid protesters. I do think destroying private property is worse than destroying government property, when it's the government you're protesting. However, I wasn't that shocked about the destruction of some capital property, I was shocked about the murderous blood lust of the capital protesters. They were really planning to kill politicians, no matter if they were democrats or republicans. It's a damn miracle they didn't get to any of the politicians. Not that I think their lives are worth anything more than civilian lives, but they do stand for democracy. It's really the people who talk about the constitution the most, who wipe their ass on it the most.
I was very surprised they wanted to hang Mike Pence. I really dislike Mike Pence, but if there was one loyal defender of Trump, it was him. I've seen right-wingers even hate Lindsay Graham now. If there was one groveling cuck to Trump.....
You right-wingers don't need a lot to make love turn into hate, don't you?
Did you learn that from Trump. He demands absolute loyalty from anyone,
but he throws anyone in front of the bus, as soon as he doesn't need them anymore.
I think there was something Trump wanted Pence to do prevent the vote counting or something and he didn't.
I am assumeing that was the reason they were after him.
A slight off topic to explain a another point in a minute.
I was bullied,alot in school.For many years of my schooling I was the geek,the missfit and so on.But although I was bullied, I was never stabbed or anything that would kill me.
The bully was attempting to instill FEAR in me. Which,they did,considering they were on the wrestleing team.
Now back to the capitol event, is anyone sure beyond a doubt that any lives WOULD have been taken,Or would Nancy been taken outside,and rattled and made fun off and left to waddle away covered in eggs and tomatoes persay?
A hanging noose was there, was it REALLY going to be used? How can we be sure? I sorda doubt it,because the people left the capitol without any results. I think they felt like at the time they did enough to MABY prompt the politicians to act in a senseable manner.
However, if you violate the law in such a way, if you storm the parliament (capitol) in the US, then you're ready to die because the police or the army might shoot you, not just in the US, but in any country. So, surely, that white woman, and all people who stormed the Capitol were risking their lives.
That's the first point. The second point is that when I'm saying "white lives matter" more in the US I mean that whites are treated differently than blacks. And that's understandable. Until relatively recently, blacks were segregated. The 60s isn't ancient history. Hatred doesn't get erased because of laws but because people truly believe in human life and its preservation. During last week's insurrection, the national guard or other forces were restrained from using guns. only registered users can see external links And that's good. I don't want people to be killed. However, if the mob consisted of, say, 50% blacks then chances are that the protesters would have been shot even before entering the Capitol. That's what we hear all the time. The rioters knew that. They knew they were risking their lives but they knew that since they were white the risk was much smaller than if they had a different color skin.
You're right, I may be wrong. But everything I read, and everything I've seen in the US points towards that direction. Again, I don't think that past divisions between whites and blacks have been forgotten. Of course there are laws, and there should be, but I see that the solution should be a mutual understanding. I don't know how this is achieved.
By the way, this doesn't mean that I hate people who may have a different view than mine.
But perhaps it's best not to speak too much about politics here. My bad.
I can't remember which 1 of those big mouthed crawly things hangs out down there.
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Sherry Ann, you are the most gullible, simple minded member I’ve met
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THe way I look at it,if his kids are so important,which they very should be important to him,then perhaps a carreer choice of something safer would be in order?
I don't know what the capitol police pay rate is but I am sure being it is federal government,they are probably making alot more money than a small town USA cop is making.
BUT it is not enough to justify being beaten half to death either.It is also not enough to justify your name all over the media for shooting a sumbitch commiting a crime and trying to harm you or someone else.
I can't nor do I want to live in a society where there is no protection from law breakers. I want to have police protecting me and mine from people that want to take it away from me. That brings me to my point, one that is hard to convince other people with. I'm 69 yrs old and it amazes me how simple concepts can be interpreted so differently by others. Anyway, here goes.
I assume you know what fragging is. One dissatisfied soldier throwing a granade into his commander's tent while he's there. One bad soldier. Don't look at his reasons, it's a bad thing. Does that make his battalion bad too? No, that's stupid. When we have cops kill or maim in an unacceptable way, we CAN say he is a bad cop. Yes, in the heat of the moment fuckups can happen. But, either way, why do many people believe that the condemnation of this cop and his actions mean we, who do the condemning, are also including the whole police dept of that community? We are not.
Now, we CAN say this department has way too many cowboys that shoot first and ask questions later. Still is it that department's fault? At that point, yes. But we must remember, police departments are superviced by local government and policed by federal agents.
So, why bring in Antifa or BLM actions? If these organisations are being unlawful go after them, but, stop the bad cops too. And let's not forget to go after the other organizations like the white supremacists too.
Faced with a colored mob, shooting starts faster and more bullets are shot.
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How the Christian right helped foment insurrection
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Christian-right activists inside and outside of government promoted the election fraud lie and claimed God told them to “let the church roar.”
This article was published in partnership with Rolling Stone.
The Jan. 6 Save America March, where then-President Donald Trump incited a crowd to attack the U.S. Capitol, opened with a prayer.
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Trump’s longtime spiritual adviser and White House adviser, the Florida televangelist Paula White, called on God to “give us a holy boldness in this hour.”
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Flanked by a row of American flags, White implored God ... in the name of Jesus.”
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Then, standing on the rostrum where the president of the Senate presides, the group paused to pray “in Christ’s holy name.”
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They thanked God “for allowing the United States of America to be reborn.”
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White evangelicals have been Trump’s most dedicated, unwavering base...
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loyalists launched their own Christian organization to “stop the steal,”
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a reconstruction of the weeks leading up Jan. 6 shows how a Christian-right group formed to “stop the steal” worked to foment a bellicose Christian narrative in defense of Trump’s coup attempt and justify a holy war against an illegitimate state.
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formed a new Christian right group, the Jericho March
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“God can reveal all the election fraud and corruption..."
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While Trump left office with his lowest overall favorability rating since his 2016 campaign – 31% – his approval rate was twice as high among White evangelicals.
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God will restore America to its rightful inheritors
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Republicans who voted to impeach Trump [were compared] to Judas, whose betrayal of Jesus led to his crucifixion.
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If you haven't actually lived in the US, if you only have a European perspective, then it's hard to imagine what divisive role religion plays in the US and how anachronistically the country operates. It's almost impossible to understand that such dark-age views and uses of religion are present in a country that is not, say, part of Saudi Arabia. Without this poison (religion), America would have been a much more advanced democracy.
It changed and lost most of it's control in Europe, but it's still here and now more effective in America in a different way, but still controlling the crowds
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