Do you ever investigate something, before you say something?
Active military personnel in Europe is around 1.5 million.

Every EU country is massively scaling that up now.
We used to have a much higher defense capability during the cold war.
It was not 'the left' in the EU that cut budgets on defense, it was everyone from left to right, because the immediate threat was so much lower. The US kept spending, but not because of defense, but because of offense. You used military interventions all over the world to secure your interests. You WERE the threat, but as long as it wasn't against us, we let you do it and got suckered into helping you with it on many occasions too.
Trump is a fucking liar, that's why we hate him. And you are all suckers, which is why I feel sorry for most of you. However, your ridiculous misplaced confidence
in lies that obvious annoys the fuck out of me too.

When what happens?
"our national soveinty has solidarity"? Are you delirious?
"And no more democratic country." Is that your wish or your observation
of where you are headed?

Why are you switching the topic?
Russia is running out of young people to sacrifice for Putin's vanity project.
That's why he's using North Koreans and African immigrants as cannon fodder.
It is appalling that you prefer such a monster over free and democratic countries,
that support a country that wants to be free and democratic, instead of being
occupied and most likely ethnically cleansed by a dictatorship.

If you just smoked some crack, wait until the world takes its normal shape again,
before you try to write anything.

What is the problem that you are trying to solve here?
Trump failed to show any significant bit of fraud in your elections.
The only one who tried to do fraud in your elections, are the fraudulent electors
who tried to help Trump win. It's the biggest scandal ever in your elections.

Voting should be ANONYMOUS! Forcing Americans to sign the 'voting paper'
is against any interpretation of your Constitution of the last 130+ years.

Don't you know anything about ANYTHING? You're fully at the peak.
When will you finally show that you know something useful about anything?



In my country, we need to show our ID, to be able to vote.
(There is NO identification on the paper ballots itself, they are anonymous.)
But you cannot change that, a few months before the election.
That would be an incredible infringement of people's voting rights.
That's exactly what Trump wants to do, because he can only win by cheating.

I already expected that you wouldn't honestly try to answer
the question, because then you have to admit to so much I am correct about and so much you are wrong about. That's why you react to the FORM, instead of the SUBSTANCE.

Everything in politics revolves around these 2 major questions:
- Who is in control of making decisions for everyone?
- Who is in control of the money?

The graph is just a tool to make that more CLEAR.

Everything else, that is important to you, is the result of how these 2 questions are 'answered' in practice, by your country. It's the basis for ALL political ideas.
I want the decisions being made as democratically as possible. If that doesn't include any decisions about money, because the money is controlled by billionaires, then it's not democracy.

If you don't understand that, then you have NO BUSINESS
to talk about politics, because then your ideas are based on NOTHING. Then you're just reacting to vibes.

We are not allowed to post dirty pictures here, unless they are your own and you are verified.

I see what you did there; you are calling me a Nazi again, aren't you?
You enjoy projection and gas-lighting so much, don't you?

I didn't say NOT to invade Iran, if it's justified then I would support it.
However, there are some RULES that we agreed upon internationally, and you have in your Constitution (and so has my country), that we have to respect.
That's the JUSTIFICATION. That's very important, when you start killing people.
(It's why you can't just shoot people in a church, but you can if someone broke into your house late at night. I'm adding this for your level of understanding.)

I only see Netanyahu lying his ass of for 30+ years and I see Trump understand that he is lying, or he would have no problem with asking Congress and the UN for approval.

Can you give me a summary of what he said?

Does he still like the word 'tariff'?

Since he won the war with Iran, when is he getting you out?

Has he said anything about Venezuela?
Was 'arresting' Nicolás Maduro effective in stopping that drugs trafficking?

How is he going to win back the trust of the American voters,
since his approval ratings are worse than any POTUS before him?

These are topics that you would expect a president to talk about and questions that
the American public would want answered. At least, in any self respecting democracy. Autocratic regimes will only have their dictator taking to the stage to praise himself.
And his people will react like .......... very much like you.

Do you know how many old folks are voting by mail?
Old folks are your most loyal voters, and many of them
cannot stand in a line for hours, waiting to vote.
You are cooking your own goose.

OK, just react to the last paragraph, with some actual arguments, if you have the balls.

All of Trump's best friends are in that upper-right corner.
He hates all the countries in the lower half.
(I'm guessing now that you understand this graph. Do you?)

Anything can be used as "an excuse for a political elite to justify the enslavement". Even the exact opposite, which is what Marx's idea boils down to. Every religion has been used in the same way.

The result of communism turned out into the exact same inequality as crony capitalism and fascism. You are completely correct. However ONLY a healthy mix of socialism and capitalism has EVER achieved freedom and a good quality of life for people, and Marx was at the root of that development. Capitalism by itself would have never achieved any of the things that you and phart are celebrating in your comments.

I am NOT clinging to ANYTHING, YOU ARE. You need to believe that socialism is wrong and Marx were wrong, by pointing at the complete opposite ideologies. That's purely because of the propaganda of your media, there is no logical thinking behind it. If there was any logical thinking behind it, you could make better arguments than you're making now.

At least the philosophy of Marx has resulted in some countries with freedom, democracy and a high quality of life for most of the people. That's the countries in the bottom left quadrant of the graph. There are NONE that are based on pure capitalism of fascism.

It's not a joke or hyperbole to call MAGA 'fascist'. It's fulfilling every aspect of the definitions of 'fascism' and all the criteria that fascism studying scholars have agreed on describes 'fascism'. The most important one is: "Authoritarian, dictatorial power centered on a single leader and the suppression of opposition.". That is exactly what you're DOING, faster than any democracy has ever been turned into an authoritarian state. NONE OF THEM ever turned out well for it's citizens and the rest of humanity.

You are pointing to Marx for some of them, but Marx described the EXACT OPPOSITE, he described a system of radical/direct democracy. A system without ANY ruling elites, but bottom up, grass-roots, working class (as the ONLY class) decision-making on a local scala and with delegates on a larger scale.

All those systems you are accusing Marx of, had/have leaders like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Xi Jinping and the Kim dynasty, have all betrayed Marx's ideology, for maximum or absolute power for themselves, combined with demanding a god-like worship from their people. That's exactly the same way they played it in the fascist regimes we know, with Mussolini and Hitler as the most notorious ones. Then we have Putin, who comes from communism, but cannot be called that anymore, he's just an authoritarian, but he demands god-like worship from his people, just the same.
NOW LOOK AT TRUMP!! He is following the exact authoritarian strategy, taking more and more power for himself, he made himself almost untouchable now, AND demanding god-like worship from his people. AND YOU ARE GIVING IT TO HIM.

Do you see where you are heading? You were already in the upper-right quadrant, with the communists and the fascists,
but I TELL YOU that Trump wants you to be fully at the upper-right corner of that graph. Am I wrong? If you think I'm wrong, why are YOU supporting EVERYTHING that would be needed to get there?

Not just technology, but also actual pressure to do more in less time. Jobs might have become a little less labor intensive, a little less straining on the body, but they have also become much more complex, adding multiple layers of cognitive demand.
You think of jobs as simple tasks, as building something, repairing something, or breaking something. That's not the reality, because lots of manufacturing has been outsourced to cheap labor countries. Checking meters isn't replaced because people are lazy, but because the alternatives are cheaper than people. People are only still utilized in places where they are absolutely necessary. That's efficiency, and it is mostly for the profit incentive.
Mostly, we are referring to the same things, but when people demand rewards from the efficiency that they created, that's not laziness, that's their fair share.
No billionaires have ever achieved ANYTHING, it's always the people working for them.

Which 'particular field'?

"This complaint isn’t new. Variations of “young people don’t want to work” go back decades—sometimes centuries.
It’s often more about changing norms than actual decline in work ethic." You're just a standard old person, complaining about young people, as old people have always done.

Cats kill 1.3 to 4.0 Billion birds per year in the U.S. alone.
Americans had cats long before there were any wind turbines.
Birds are 'designed' by nature to outbreed threats like that.
They are not 'designed' by nature to survive pollution.
By the way, wind turbines can be fitted with cameras to not kill any endangered birds.
They can stop the blades when some Spotted Owl or Bald Eagle comes into danger,
and just continue when some common Blackbird, Dove or Robin comes along.
They just become good food for the wildlife under the wind turbines.

Oil-spills kill birds too. Deepwater Horizon oil disaster (2010) is estimated to have killed 600,000–800,000 of coastal seabirds.
Oil and gas waste pits associated with fracking and other drilling are estimated to be killing 500,000 to 1 million birds per year in the U.S.

Burning fossil fuels releases carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases that warm the planet. Climate change alters temperatures, rainfall, and seasonal cycles that insects rely on for development, reproduction, and survival. Many insects are highly sensitive to such changes. Total insect biomass and abundance have dropped dramatically over recent decades (for example, declines of ~45% in some compiled studies over 40 years. About 96 % of North American bird species feed insects to their young or rely on insects as a significant food source at some point in their lives.

Off shore wind farms are actually very positive for increasing biodiversity, because turbine foundations act like artificial reefs. There is some setback during construction, but those foundations can last 40+ years in which the artificial reefs attract mussels, barnacles, crabs and small fish, that in turn feed bigger fish and marine mammals.

In your country, there are no people who hate Jews more than the Christian Zionists who kept pushing Trump into war with Iran. To them, the Jews are just a means to an end; the literal end; the "end-times".

"Christian Zionism is a religious belief that the return of Jews to the Holy Land
plays a role in biblical prophecy and the Second Coming. This includes the idea
that either Jews will convert or be destroyed in the end times."

Or are you saying that "convert or be destroyed" is loving Jews?

"Utility-scale solar photovoltaic (PV) and onshore wind are currently the cheapest forms of new energy generation globally, consistently outcompeting fossil fuels, even without subsidies."
And that was even before Trump bungled himself into a war with Iran.

Family farms are bought up by large agribusiness companies, investment firms and wealthy individuals, because they are exploited by the capitalist system, to their knees.
How is that MY "new idea of progress"?

It is exactly what I have been saying; normal people will
lose everything and the wealthy will OWN everything.
Normal people will work for peanuts, until they die,
as long as there are still some jobs available.

They are over 65, because you don't have a decent social security system, and their mostly worn out bodies can at least still drive a truck. They don't want to, they HAVE TO.
And Elon Musk will take that escape away from them.
He will replace truck drivers eventually.

Damn, you have literally turned into a propaganda bot.

You are not refuting ANYTHING I'm saying, you just come up with more and more new nonsense.

Please stop your nonsense about people not wanting to work. Productivity is higher than every in human history, and people just want some of the rewards for that.

The billionaires are spending trillions to replace working people. Your argument has always been that those billionaires are job providers, and now you are even betraying that principle.
Do you have any principles left that you haven't betrayed,
in favor of the wealthy exploiting EVERYONE ELSE?
If I didn't know any better, I would think I was talking to
the most selfish wealthy asshole, who ever lived.

Your Christian Nationalist Republicans are working very hard to take away "condoms and pills and simple surgerys", because they like to force poor people into god awful jobs for shit pay.

Do you think that work in the 1800s did anything for self improvement? That's the system that your side it trying to
bring back.

"The Party’s inner circle?" Are you talking about the Russian communist party? Do you even know that Karl Marx was a German? It was 34 years after he died, before his ideas were ever used as an argument for any political violence.

"Has Marxism ever made anyone’s life better?"
Marx’s ideas influenced a lot of working-class empowerment movements. Working class people were treated like cattle:
- factories were dangerous
- wages were low
- hours were extremely long
- child labor was common
- people lived in abject poverty

People revolted against that and demanded:
- Labor unions (especially in Europe)
- Welfare state development (indirectly through socialist and social-democratic movements)
- Labor laws (limits on working hours, child labor bans, safety regulations)
- Social democracy (e.g., parties in Germany, Scandinavia, UK Labour tradition in its early roots)
- Academic fields (sociology, political economy, critical theory)
These developments improved life mainly by reducing extreme poverty and insecurity, increasing worker power, and making industrial capitalism more regulated and socially protective over time.

Karl Marx was a major intellectual influence, which contributed to these reforms.
That resulted in YOUR ABILITY to work yourself upwards.
It resulted in the best situation of the working class, around the 60s and 70s in your country. Since then, the wealthy fought back to take these reforms back from you. Today, American people are struggling again. If you keep supporting 'MAGA', it will only get worse, because it is the exact opposite of the ideology that resulted in such a high standard of living for working class Americans in the 60s and 70s.

"pick a couple segments of it and show us where he is wrong?
I have literally already done that, in multiple ways.

How about you:
1) Make a list of what Lookatmine2 is RIGHT about
2) Make a list of what I am WRONG about
If you are fair, his list is short, but mine is shorter.

There is NOTHING that African dictators have in common with Marx's ideals or my socialist principles, NOTHING!!!
You are just showing how much your brain has rotted.
European capitalism was one major driver of African colonialism and its lasting effects, which are these dictatorships.

There is currently no widely available, conventional cure for AIDS. However, the first known functional cure was identified in Berlin, Germany, in 2008–2009, when Timothy Ray Brown (the "Berlin Patient") was cured of HIV following stem cell transplants.
Capitalism prefers TREATMENTS over cures, because treatment makes more money for pharmaceutical companies.

Since when do you think that technology is good for society?
I'm talking about people prospering. You can have a high tech economy, while people are starving. With AI replacing jobs,
that might be very close to becoming real in your lifetime.

The US reformed Japan in the same way as you reformed the US, through DEMOCRATIZED and REGULATED capitalism:
- Broke up large industrial monopolies (zaibatsu)
- Introduced land reforms that gave land to farmers
- Encouraged labor rights and unions

Yes, he eloquently articulated your indoctrination.
The problem is that there is hardly any truth to it.

Yes, Democratic Socialism is actually based on Marxist ideals.
The communism that you are referring to, is the absolute OPPOSITE of Marxism; it has enslaved its people and resulted in massive wealth inequality, which is the absolute opposite of the Marxist ideal, who describes a STATELESS, CLASSLESS society. Stalin's system was a highly centralized authoritarian STATE,
with a ruling party ELITE. Don't you understand the difference?

Do you understand the difference between state-owned in a dictatorship and state-owned in a real grass-roots democracy?

Maybe you understand it better if we describe the difference as 'democratically-controlled' and 'elite-controlled'. In the first one,
the system serves the people, in the second one the system serves the wealthy, powerful elites.

That 'Euro-style Socialism' has resulted in an incredible recovery after WWII and a much higher quality of life for most people than you are living in the US.
What you are calling 'Euro-style Socialism' today is actually to the right of the political situation you had in the US, in the 60s and 70s.

What you are referring to with "since 1917" is FASCISM, the exact opposite of the democratic socialism that I support.

Fascism: An authoritarian, ultranationalist system where the state
is supreme and dissent is suppressed.

Dutch SP Socialism: A democratic system with a mixed economy, strong welfare state, and expanded public ownership of essential services.

There has never been a "purely socialist nation". As a socialist myself, I understand that a "purely socialist nation" would only be possible after at least 200 years of a large democratic majority wanting socialism, which is very unlikely to ever happen.

That 'privilege' that you are accusing me of, is the exact same for Americans who benefitted from American politics in the 60s and 70s. It's the time that MAGA is referring to; Make America Great AGAIN.

In the United States in the 1960s–70s, “socialism” appeared in the form of an expanded welfare state with programs like Medicare and Medicaid, various sector-specific government-owned or publicly controlled infrastructure and services, public provision of education and housing support, stronger regulation of private markets, and high progressive taxation used to fund social insurance and redistribute income.

That's a level of "socialism" which exceeds the level of "socialism"
in the Netherlands today. You had a Top federal income tax rate of ~70%–90%, we have a Top income tax rate bracket of 49.5%.
You had more direct public provision in housing, more dominant public role in postal/logistics infrastructure and more expansion-oriented public utilities and infrastructure build-out.

The US in the 60s and 70s was still more unequal than the Netherlands today, because your welfare state was fragmented, labor and housing markets were more unequal, and structural racial and wealth disparities were not fully offset by redistribution, whereas the Netherlands today combines more universal social protections with stronger wage compression and institutional equality mechanisms.

The "the former East Germany" was living under authoritarian 'communism'; the state owning everything and controlling everything. You are heading towards "oligarchy with authoritarian rule"; the wealthy owning everything and controlling everything. Explain the difference for a working class American to me.

I didn't share this graphical representation of 'various political/economic systems' for nothing. I shared this to explain something
to people like you, who don't understand it.

No, explain why wind on a mass scale is a BAD investment.

Oil is getting increasingly expensive and polluting.

Democrats are NOT LEFTIES.
Most of them are more capitalist than the Republicans.

Both parties serve the wealthy. There is one difference;
- Democrats want a stable system of inequality.
- Republicans want to increase inequality indefinitely.

Smart people like Bill Gates and actors understand that increasing inequality indefinitely isn't possible and that it leads to a collapse
of the system, either economic collapse or violent collapse.
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No answers here?

You are reminding me enough of that fact already.

I posted this depiction of the Dunning-Kruger effect in 2022.
It shows that it requires knowledge and experience to understand how stupid you are. You hardly have any knowledge, on any subject, and you are showing it by confidently posting vague inconsistent ideas that are not supported with any logical arguments.



Meanwhile, I'm far beyond average knowledge on many subjects and approaching
the expert level on several. You think that knowledge is the same as common sense,
but it isn't, it requires an effort.

You wouldn't need so much oil, if Trump didn't pay energy companies billions of dollars
to stop building wind-farms. Didn't you say that capitalism will invest in renewable energy, so the government won't need to? Well, not if Trump pays them tax-dollars to not do that.
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It's the exploitative nature of capitalism that keeps people poor.
Social democracy isn't welfare, it's your own tax money being invested in your fellow humans, to maximize their potential. In your system, your tax dollars are used as welfare for the wealthy, it's stealing from the average American to give to the wealthy.

You shouldn't have to work that hard to make a good life for yourself. Have you ever considered how much of your labor goes to enrich
people who don't do shit at all?

Look at a 'socialist' country like Norway; their government invested
in their fossil fuel industry and kept it as public ownership. Their investments have created a massive pension fund for the people, instead of massive wealth for a few private wealthy individuals.
By the way, the debt of Norway is 55% of GDP, yours is 125% of GDP.
American taxpayers are paying $1.1 Trillion per year in interest.
Imagine how much less it would be, if your fossil fuel industry was publicly owned. It would make you $300 Billion per year.

The 'haves' have NEVER been on the left. Have you ever seen one ask to get his wealth taxed significantly? They at best pose as liberals or wokesters, which doesn't cost them any money. They are only giving people the idea of freedom and a chance to have a decent life. Don't you understand that an economy is consumer driven too?
They cannot sell much to poor people. Your current MAGA party
has forgotten that, which is why they are crushing your economy.
Wealthy liberals are only protecting themselves, because they understand that when inequality goes too far, the people will revolt
and take back what was stolen from them. And they are paying the Democratic party to never move left too much, because that will take too much away from their wealth. They want you to be happy and obedient, so you will keep serving them.

You have a choice between Democrats who promise the moon and deliver 10% of that, and Republicans who promise to hurt people and than deliver 200% of that. How can you not see their self-enrichment? Why do you think that Elon Musk supported Trump? He got to cut money for poor Americans and then gets tens of billions of dollars in government contracts. He gets tax-cuts, you get higher health insurance premiums. Rural red states are losing the most clinics, because Trump is giving that money to the wealthy. The wealthy are increasing the energy costs of the people, for massive AI datacenters
intended to replace the jobs of middle class Americans.

"Karl Marx was an evil fool" Is that supposed to be an argument?
It just shows that you are clueless. Why is it evil to have the preposition that people should not be divided into classes?

Their food chauvinism is very real. Just like the French.
That's why it's so much fun when that TV program goes there.
Is there some of that food chauvinism going on where you live?
Of course, no one beats our peanut butter “pindakaas”!

Repeating things can be a sign of dementia

Correct, as Daniel Dennett described in his book "Intuition Pumps and Other Tools for Thinking", a book that I have read and can highly recommend, it can be used as a vital cognitive tool. He calls it the "workhorse of philosophical argumentation". It is a method
of challenging an assertion or theory by taking its premises to their most extreme logical conclusion, revealing them to be preposterous or self-contradictory.

However, a 'Reductio ad absurdum' can also be used as a fallacy, specifically an 'Appeal to Extremes' or 'Straw-man', when the conclusion is not a truly logical consequence,
but rather an exaggerated, distorted, or ridiculous scenario.

I told you before; defining a word or a concept is not an argument.
Make a logical connection with something I said. That would be an argument.

Logic:
- Netanyahu has warned about the Iranian nuclear threat for more than 30 years, always saying that they were weeks or months away from having nukes.
- Barack Obama negotiated and concluded the Iran nuclear deal known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). It was agreed on July 14, 2015, between Iran and the P5+1 group of world powers (the US, UK, France, Russia, China, and Germany) plus the European Union.
- Two major international investigations by the IAEA into Iran’s nuclear program’s nature, and several independent intelligence assessments (eg from the U.S. and other states) have repeatedly stated that Iran was not actively building a nuclear weapon.
- May 8, 2018: Trump cancels the nuclear deal with Iran
- Iran initially stays in the deal, but around mid-2019, Iran began slowly stepping away from the restrictions.
- April 1, 2024: Israel struck an Iranian diplomatic compound (consulate building), killing senior Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps commanders, which is considered a very serious violation of international law.
- June 21–22, 2025: Trump orders airstrikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities. No valid claims to Self-defense (Article 51) and no UN Security Council authorization. No specific prior authorization from Congress.
- Trump claimed the targeted nuclear facilities were “completely and totally obliterated.”
- February 28, 2026: Israel en the US bomb the Iranian diplomatic compound, which is an illegal act of war, by international law
- Trump declares victory and says "we won" multiple times.
- The US increasing troop deployments to the region and is reportedly preparing plans for ground operations inside Iran.

Conclusion: Israel and the US are the agressors, Trump is a war criminal, and Trump
let Netanyahu bungle the US and the rest of the world into 'THE WAR' that Netanyahu
has desired for 30+ years, and other presidents were never stupid enough to start.

Millions of Americans are protesting in EVERY American state, about Trump behaving
like a king and being a criminal, and you are making the argument that you have to be
a Dutch socialist to disagree with your president. The clown has the lowest approval rating any US president EVER had. That is because of his actions, that contradict EVERYTHING he promised before the election, and confirms ALL the warnings of people like me.

Obviously, you didn't learn a damn thing, from that video. Did you even watch it?
Anyone can copy-paste the description.
I had already watched it for 18 minutes before, until I decided it's pretty weak AI slop.
Still, you have done exactly what the video warns against, many times.

Here's an actual person, Daniel Dennett, generally considered one of the most influential contemporary thinkers in philosophy of mind and cognitive science, explaining several thinking tools: only registered users can see external links
@16:17 he discusses the 'Reductio ad absurdum'

If Someone Asks You What Gaslighting Is… Show Them This Clip:
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OK, I didn't know it was local. It will probably stay a 'dream' to all of us.

Would they call it the McCrispy Italian in Italy?
If you want to irritate Italians, you claim that some non-Italian food is Italian.

There is a program on Dutch TV that investigate food and other consumer products.
They regularly investigate a product that is supposed to be Italian, like some packaged pasta Carbonara mix. Then they go to Italy to compared it to the real thing. It's always fun to see how it disgusts them and fills them with pity for what we are eating.
"Why would you do this, it is so easy to make yourself! Please, let me teach you!".

Joe Rogan is FINALLY realizing MAGA is a cult
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If this bonehead understands it, when do you?

You are right, if the US would have joined the fight, the Nazis
would probably have conquered all of Europe, and everyone
would be under fascist rule, probably still today.
And now you're supporting a fascist, who wants to do the same.

Do you think that the US did that out of your kind heart?
Your leaders don't want any powerful regime, besides your own.
The US didn't want Europe to have it's own military industrial complex, you wanted us to be weak and dependent on you, and make lots of money from selling us your weapons. That's what happened, and now your clown is lying to you and stabbing us in the back. I will do my very best to make Europe independent of the US and make your regime pay economically for its betrayal. It doesn't even require much effort, because Trump is destroying your country faster than we could ever hope to achieve. Americans are suffering, jobs are declining, AI will destroy the rest, and the greed of your billionaires will squeeze the life out of your economy. You will either fight them in a revolution, when you finally see the truth, or you will starve blaming the poor.

In Ukraine, you are not HELPING at all, you're just selling us weapons, that we donate to Ukraine, so Russia doesn't run them over.
We are doing that to prevent World War III. Let Putin win, and that's what we will have. Trump is doing his very best to let Putin win easy.
Give him that victory, and it will motivate the Russian people to keep fighting for him. Now they are suffering losses, defeat, humiliation and economic struggle. And because of Iran, Trump is removing sanctions on Russia, so they can sell oil again and replenish their war chest.

True, I cannot say that I ever really struggled. My father came from poverty though. His father died when he was 9 and his mother struggled to put food on the table. That's in a time that women were not supposed to work. The government paid her a widow's benefit. It was incredibly meager. Every now and then people from the governmnet came to their house to see if they were not too rich. They literally looked into the cooking pot what's for dinner. If they found out that you were making too much money on the side, they would take that benefit away. That's why my father raised me with awareness of poverty. We were not rich either. My father has always been a low educated electrical mechanic. He maximized his income by buying a house, instead of renting. Besides food, education, and 1 car vacation per year, we wore very cheap clothes, and much that we got was second hand. I learned the value
of money and the challenges of not having much of it. I see what was available to my father, by working hard, which is no longer possible for low educated working class people today. That's why I'm a socialist.

Every single socialist that I've ever met, has a background of lower middle class and either struggling themselves or moving upward to middle class or upper middle class. Every right-winger I have ever met, ether grew up upper middle class or rich, to not understand the exploitation of the working class. If they didn't, they bought into the lie that poor people don't work hard enough.
Your brain has been melted by propaganda to think that way.
That's why you're imagining this exactly upside down.
That's why you are supporting a billionaire, who is cutting taxes for other billionaires and taking away benefits from the poor and working class.

It's right-wingers who don't understand what poverty comes from.
How can you shit on people who struggle, if you struggled yourself?
I have seen struggles, even though my parents did their very best.
That's what motivated me to get educated; so I can struggle less.
And while I'm doing well, I don't forget the struggles that I escaped.
Tell me about your hard days then?

"This is between me and her" when you are a dick to her.
Then don't involve me, when she is a dick to you.

Well, it just doesn't include Jeffrey Epstein's former neighborhood,
or they would obviously have voted for a Republican again.
They gotta protect themselves.

The McCrispy Italian looks good. If my girlfriend wouldn't get violently sick from eating
at McDonald's, we would have probably tried it already. There is soy in almost all their food.
I'm not going alone.

So, try it, and tell me how good it was.

You are stupid for supporting a president who is colluding with the worst enemy that the free world ever had, and has stolen land from, and committed horrible
war crimes against, a country that wants to join the free world, so they will never be dominated, massacred and starved by that enemy ever again.

It's possible that you are brainwashed enough to not see it,
but there is a more logical reason; you don't like a free world.
You prefer an autocracy or maybe even a theocracy.
You want to dominate everyone who doesn't share your worldview.
Because there are more people who disagree with you, than
who agree with you, you support Trump taking away democracy,
so your worldview dominates the majority who hates it.
That's your idea of 'unity'. You have admitted as much.

You are evil, and you are trying to justify it with pseudo-religious bullshit.
You're much worse than people who support authoritarianism openly.
At least that's honest and transparent.

Clinton saying that he 'saw nothing' and 'did nothing wrong' related to Jeffrey Epstein is not exonerating Trump. How would he what Trump did, every time
he wasn't there?
It's like you are saying: "O.J. Simpson isn't guilty, because Clinton didn't see him kill his wife!".

The view more liberal than NBC? You gotto be joking man, Sara Haines is a Moderate, Alyssa Farah Griffin is a Republican and Ana Navarro is a Republican. Just because they hate Trump, doesn't make them liberals. There are many hard-line conservatives who hate Trump, because Trump is not. Being a conservative is not the same as being an authoritarian. Just because you identify as both, doesn't mean that there aren't many conservatives who care about Rule-of-law, Constitutional protections of citizens and even criminals, personal ethics, democratic norms, free elections, actual fiscal discipline, actual free trade, actual politics and policies instead of a president enforcing his daily brain-farts, personal freedoms (“Don’t tread on me.”), strong alliances, NATO, and a firm anti-Russia stance. Some conservatives actually care about all the principles that you once advocated for, but you have completely forsaken, in the service of Trump.

Many libertarians also hate Trump, because Trump isn't a libertarian, but an autocrat. Whoopi Goldberg definitely has some liberal and woke tendencies,
but she gets it wrong more often than she get's it right. She's not dumb, but she's very much uninformed. To me, that's very irresponsible, for someone who is part of a discussion group that many people watch. It's a disservice.

Trump himself is on audio recordings saying that his falling out with Epstein was because: “He stole people that worked for me.”
“He took people out of the spa… I told him don’t do it anymore.”
When asked about Virginia Giuffre: “Yeah… he stole her.”
Explain why he would say that, if he didn't know what was going on.
Would he use the term 'stealing', if he thought Epstein offered them a better job?
She worked as a spa or locker room attendant. That's a high turnover job.
Leisure and hospitality employee turnover can exceed 70–80% annually.

What Trump supposedly said to Clinton is completely irrelevant.
Trump is known for contradicting himself, seconds later, all the time.
His strategy has always been; lie and confuse people as much as possible,
so they can never catch him on anything he ever said, and they can pick and chose the things he is saying that they like. And now his brain is turning to mush more and more, he's not even capable of remembering his lies, so they are becoming even more chaotic than before.

Multiple accounts (including legal filings and witness statements) indicate Trump and Epstein were still socially connected into the early 2000s.
Widely reported evidence indicates Epstein was banned from Mar-a-Lago around 2007. That’s years after the period when the “poaching employees” issue would have occurred (late 1990s / early 2000s).
After Epstein’s criminal investigation became public (mid-2000s), Trump appears to have distanced himself more clearly. There’s little credible evidence of a relationship after that period.
That means that Trump did NOT stop being friends with Epstein because of his behavior, but because he got into TROUBLE for it. He ADMIRED the behavior.

So, you joined the bullying, because you see her as the opposition.

Why would you doubt that. Anyone can do it.

If there was, it wouldn't be blackmail anymore, now ain't it?

Show me where Bill Clinton said that about Trump.
How would he know? Clinton hasn't been on the Island.

Just as an experiment, I asked ChatGPT:
"If Trump was an Russian agent, or blackmailed to help Russia, would he be able
to help Russia more than he did, without raising suspicions?"

Here is the conclusion of ChatGPT's answer:

✅ Implications
If Trump were acting as a Russian agent or under blackmail:
His actions are about as much as he could safely do.
Anything more substantial would have been too visible and politically risky.
If Trump were acting independently:
Same actions can be explained by personal ideology (anti-intervention,
admiration for strong leaders) or political strategy.

Conclusion: The pattern of behavior is consistent with both scenarios, but the constraints show that “he couldn’t have helped Russia much more covertly”
without getting caught.

The US never had to, but NATO was your idea.
It was a time that you cared about having allies.
Now your only allies are countries that are holding your president hostage
with blackmail. The Epstein files are probably tame in comparison.

Your president raped little girls and you keep supporting him.
Russia and Israel have damning evidence, so Trump is doing their bidding.
It's a logical deduction from everything that is happening.

She is a liberal?

I think they are alright today; Democrat Emily Gregory won a Florida special election, flipping a state legislative district that includes Trump's Mar-a-Lago home.
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There's a reason to that; your president is incredibly dangerous
and harmful to peace, truth, freedom and the survival of humanity.

If you don't want to discuss anything, why do you react?
This is not a sex topic. Why are you here?

I did not start the politics discussions on this website.
This was going on long before I joined in.
I have the same right to be here as you have.

You just only accept ignorant right-wing bullshit here,
that's why your angry at me. You're a snowflake.

It might be a shock to you, but I'm actually trying to convince you
or at least some other people reading along.

That's me treating you like a human being, who is able to change his mind.

Do you think that parroting limpydick is a good argument?
C'mon, you are much smarter than that guy.

The forums here were already talking about mostly other topics than
sex and porn, before I made one comment. You only use that argument,
if you don't like the opinions.

The topics that discuss sex are actually quite boring; there is not much interaction. Someone posts a photo or a comment, and it gets hardly any traction. Do you get any excitement or entertainment from it?

Maybe you're not seeing it, but this website does provide something good;
a wide variety of topics to discuss ideas with people who disagree.
Twitter never offered this and now it's X, it's completely fucked.
I would join Truth Social, but I rather see it die, than giving hundreds of MAGA a reason to be there. You might think that you're looking for a right-wing safe space, but that's no fun at all. I have seen forums like that, it's just a contest of who can say the most atrocious shit. After someone won, saying something that would make Hitler blush, there is nothing to say anymore. In other words; you should be happy I'm here, providing you
an enemy.

It's the title of the clip.
Why do you think it's one or the other?
People can communicate opinions in a funny way.
Whether it is his opinion or just jokes, the result is the same.
Some of his jokes contain actual philosophical arguments, refuting religion.
Which doesn't take a lot, because the philosophical arguments that support religion
have been destroyed a million times over.

There are only 2 arguments for religion that actually make any sense:
- Some people are unable to be decent people, without the threat of hell.
- It's possible that a consciousness started the universe.
If the existing religions were actually any good, those would be decent arguments
to join one. The problem is that they all expect people to believe nonsense.

Jim Jefferies DESTROYS Religion for 12 min
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'The absolute irony!' James O'Brien on coverage of Trump's attacks on the BBC
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They could easily sue Trump for defamation.
He was actually lying to hurt their reputation.

No, you're the one who used it as a fallacy, because you don't want to engage with the actual substance. People on this forum bring race into a discussion much more than I do, and I have never seen you make a point of that.

You are generalizing ALL Muslims in the group of Islamic terrorists, which is actual prejudice. I was generalizing all white men as not Islamic terrorists, which might be a too hasty assumption, because there were even some white men who joined ISIS, but it is not a NEGATIVE generalization. You just wanted to accuse me of something you were doing yourself, which is called the “tu quoque” fallacy.

I only see one side purposefully misconstrue Bible verses all the time,
and that's the right-wing, especially in the US. You are obviously sensitive
to this obvious truth, so you want to dodge and deflect.

The core ethical and moral message of Jesus is Feeding the poor, Caring for the sick, Serving the vulnerable and Welcoming the stranger. Your politics
has completely corrupted that message.

If you look at the core ethical and moral message of the Quran,
it is very similar:
- Care for the poor and vulnerable (zakat and sadaqah)
- Justice and fairness (Surah An-Nisa)
- Compassion and mercy
- Serving society and promoting welfare
- Welcoming the stranger / inclusion
Their politics just did exactly what you politics did; completely corrupt it.
The powerful always change the message into something that serves THEM.

The only reason for them turning to terrorism, is because they have been fucked by Western civilization for their oil, over and over and over again. Israel stealing land from the Palestinians didn't help them like us either.

The 'same shit'? Ever heard a president say that he wants to run for a third term? What would your side have said, when Obama would have even suggested that?

Trump had accused Obama of going to attack Iran, to boost his votes. Now Trump did that, without providing any reason upfront and without asking permission from congress (see below). Bush put you in a horrible war with Iraq for bullshit reasons, but at least he had the courtesy to make up lies about weapons of mass destruction and repeat them for weeks, to try to get people's consent. Not Trump, of course,
he just grabs you by the military, without anyone asking for it.

Still think that this war will be over soon? If so, what goal will be reached?

Your presidents actions put other countries in way more risk than the US. The fucker didn't discuss it with anyone, just did what he wanted, correction; what Netanyahu wanted. Then he has the nerve to demand help, and says that he will remember if we don't. We will remember YOU throwing the world in utter chaos again, picking such a dumb fuck for a president. He is now threatening to bomb the Iranians' power plants to rubble. Wasn't this a war to help the Iranian citizens? Killing their children and destroying their livelihoods is not helping.
It will send millions of refugees to Europe.
Just like what happened with all your other wars.
If that happens AGAIN, WE WILL NEVER FORGET!!!

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US Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11:
“The Congress shall have Power To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;”

Bullshit, black people are just as Christian in your country, actually MORE.

"Alleged"? When you have a preacher shouting that Trump, your least Christian president EVER, is the second coming of Christ, that's 'Christian nationalism'.

You're also adding nothing that supports who those "false prophets" are.
So let me do that. The Gospel of Matthew 7:15 is part of Sermon on the Mount.
In Matthew 7:16–20, Jesus says you will know them “by their fruits.”
Do their teachings produce honesty, compassion, humility?
Or do they lead to fear, manipulation, division, or harm?

“By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.”

Good tree → good fruit: A person with true goodness, faith, or righteousness
will naturally produce good actions and positive outcomes.
Bad tree → bad fruit: A person with corrupt motives, hypocrisy, or evil will produce harmful or immoral actions, no matter what they say.

Everything Trump does and everything that your type of 'Christians' support
is leading to fear, manipulation, division, and harm for the normal Americans and for more wealth for the wealthy.
Everything that James Talarico supports boils down to honesty, compassion and humility. Honesty while facing "Christian" hypocrites, compassion towards normal Americans and people who want to become normal Americans, and humility by saying that Christianity is ALL about how you treat OTHER people.

How has your side been treating OTHER people lately? Just a few examples:
- Trump stopped lunches in schools for children of poor parents.
- Trump let 30,000 tons of food for crisis areas rot in the harbor.
- Trump cat billions of Aids aid for Africa.
- Trump cut pediatric cancer research, already going to children with cancer.
- Trump's cuts will make 12 million people lose health coverage.
- Trump is taking SNAP away from millions of poor families.
- Trump's FEMA cuts will affect many people who are suffering from a disaster.
For no reason other than to please his wealthy friends.

Not everything in the New Testament are the words of Jesus.
I went to a Christian school, with ACTUAL Christians,
I know the difference between Christian love and "Christian" HATE.
It's basically just propaganda to benefit the wealthy and let the poor suffer.

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And he probably doesn't even qualify for the definition of 'Christian nationalism', he's just your standard greedy Christian hypocrite, melting people's brains.

I don't need an answer, I would just like you to think about this.