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Started by #610414 [Ignore] 14,May,20 02:51
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The nerve of you democrats demanding a trillion dollars for illegal immigrants
Just who do you people think you are that’s not what the people want deport the immigrants
And that nigga from New York he’s pretty young he must not remember what happened to Martin Luther King Martin Luther King Jr Malcom X Rodney King and George Floyd all had big mouths and payed the price for it
Frankly, the longer the government is shut down the better things will get.
The reason the dems don't like it is because it proves they are useless! the world will keep right on turning if all the democrats went to the moon!
If they shut down we still operate on a smaller government and if they cave trump wins
gas down to 1.85
stay closed a month, hell, lets enjoy some affordable fuel this fall, have a great travel season to help the mountain communitys with tourism after the bad storm last year! THe people can afford to help their neighbors when fuel is affordable.
When the economy goes down the drain, the oil and gas prices go down too.
That's because when production decreases, demand for energy decreases.
Lower demand means lower prices.
Remember the Covid crisis, when the price of oil was below $0,-?
There is way less tourism in the US. I told you before, but you said you didn't care. Foreigners don't want to come to a country where fascism is on the rise. Old people are less able to travel, because their social security isn't keeping up with their costs.
all time high ! does that sound like the economy crashing?
2) Cutting taxes for the wealthy is good for stocks, not for the working class.
3) The dollar has lost 9%–11% of its external value so far this year.
EUR/USD was 1.02 in January. It climbed to 1.18 in September.
That combined with inflation makes it 41,742.5. The real value is actually declining.
If your dollar drops 50%, you might see a Dow of 80,000. The number is useless.
Still, I just made over $1750 selling my AMD stock. I had it for avg. 1 year.
It's the last American stock that I had. Many experts expect a crash.
I'm buying Chinese stocks now (BYD and XPeng). Also looking at TSMC.
It's not strange to think that Trump is causing crashes intentionally,
so he gets lots of money from his friends making big bucks from trading.
Every time he causes a crash, he relaxes some tariffs afterwards
or he delays them some more. Then the stocks go up again.
If the stock goes down far enough, I will buy Amazon and AMD again.
I don't get the intel, but I can anticipate their moves. It's not 4D chess.
Cheating is a game for losers, but that has been Trump's strategy all along.
Trump is really hurting your economy with this trick, but that's all part of his strategy. He's destroying the government and giving control to the billionaires, with him pulling the strings (that's what he thinks, but they will eliminate him at any point when he oversteps his usefulness. He gets a heart attack and JD Vance takes over. He's a loyal dog for Peter Thiel, who wants his tech feudalism. It's very funny how the South is now serving the carpetbaggers.). In any case, they win, you lose.
"President Donald Trump's approval rating has hit a record low for his second term, according to a polling tracker.
The Vote Hub polling tracker showed that on September 30, Trump's net approval rating hit -10 points, with 43 percent approving and 53 percent disapproving.
It has since bounced back slightly as the government shutdown has kicked in, with 44 percent approving and 53 percent disapproving as of October 2, giving him a net approval of -9 points."
Sure, emergency's+ like heart attacks and so forth, help the person, but damn this shit of them walking off and NEVER being expected to pay back a dime. Document the time and service, and if they start showing income, get some of the money back each month from their income. it would be done to you and i if we didn't pay our bill, they can lock on your bank accounts and everything else, take your house, but yet if you have NOTHING, you get care for nothing. fix that. and before you start this shit about me being wrong , I know for a damn fact a friend of mine went in the hospital with a brain tumor that was caused him to be unable to live alone, the police came took him in , the hospital took his car-truck,tools, , his home, his social security and everything for the bill , reason i know is i had to bid on and pay for stuff he had in his will for me to inherit.
BTW, in Florida, and I suspect in some other states, your home is untouchable. They can put a lien but they can't take your home.
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so they should get something back for their money.
and if they are using the roads that tax money built, they are getting more than they deserve
Education: Sales tax helps fund local public schools, state universities, and libraries.
Public safety: It provides revenue for local law enforcement, fire departments, and emergency response services.
Infrastructure: The funds are used to maintain and build transportation networks, such as roads, bridges, and public transit.
Community and social services: Sales tax supports various social programs, parks, and cultural events.
Healthcare: In some places, sales tax revenue contributes to healthcare programs.
Check out the last one.
Payroll taxes (for social insurance programs)
Social Security taxes: $25.7 B
Medicare taxes: $6.4 B
Unemployment insurance taxes: $1.8 B
Federal income taxes (i.e. payable to IRS but not payroll) — included in the federal component of the ~$59.4B. The detailed number in that report is ~$19.5 B for federal income taxes.
State & Local Taxes (from the ~$37.3B) broken down:
Sales & excise taxes: $15.1 B
Property taxes: $10.4 B
Personal & business income taxes: $7.0 B
Other state‐local taxes: $0.5 B
Additionally, $4.2B paid to other states by purchases / cross-state effects etc.
Phart, can you do any research, instead of just saying shit?
Are you afraid that you might LEARN something?
those states give the illegals all this. and who pays for it, the tax payer.not good.
Based on admissions data collected for 2024, it is estimated that the total cost of care provided to illegal immigrants is nearly $660 million
that is just 1 friggen state.
Other than WIC, unauthorized immigrants are generally ineligible for federally funded supports except for emergency Medicaid, primary and preventive health care at Federally Qualified Health Centers (FQHCs), free/reduced school lunch, and short-term access to shelters and soup kitchens in emergency situations.
taking school lunchs from kids of citizens. how nice.
Yes. Immigrants, like U.S. citizens, can qualify for Medicare. But for immigrants who aren't citizens to be eligible, their immigration status in addition to their work history must meet the federal health program's requirements. Those without legal status have never been eligible for Medicare benefits.
WHY WHY ?
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Like I said many times: lots of undocumented immigrants are paying taxes.
If they pay into a system, they should be 'entitled' to use the system.
“Yes, many undocumented immigrants use fake documents to obtain jobs, a common practice that has created a large market for counterfeit papers. This is largely a consequence of needing to work to support themselves and their families while having no legal avenue to do so.”
That means that MANY illegals are hired with these fake documents. Guess what? The employer collects payroll taxes from these individuals. Yes, many do PAY PAYROLL TAXES, let alone sales taxes. One other point. I’m not sure how much of an effect this has, but, most states have some form of lottery like Fantasy 5 or Lotto. A large portion goes to support educational programs. I’m pretty sure illegals bet like regular légala, so…….they do support schooling for their children. And, let’s not forget gasoline taxes. These are excise taxes and, generally, not sales taxes. I believe they drive cars and such. They also pay road usage tolls.
So, when you say they don’t pay taxes except for sales taxes, you are wrong.
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BTW, Phart, did you notice this?
“ a consequence of needing to work to support themselves and their families ”
To support themselves and their families. That is what most do. They are honest, hard working people who want to do nothing more than survive like the rest of us. Yes, they are breaking the law. Only, it’s by taking a step across an invisible line that separates the, how did Hemingway put it, “the haves and have nots”.
"make Mexico great again".
it hasn't always been a dangerous shit hole. what changed? the unchecked drug trade.
“ There are millions of people who use illegal drugs.”
During World War II, over 120,000 Japanese Americans, the majority of whom were U.S. citizens, were forcibly removed from their homes and incarcerated in government camps.
Millions vs 120K? Think about it.
Damn good 1,
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KKK and trump
CAT52! You racist bitch, nasty old saggy granny. I know you are a coward and will never unbaned me.
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They have found clear evidence of election machine tampering, resulting in
a 7% favorability towards Trump versus hand counting.
Their statistical analysis shows that this is enough to flip the election to Trump.
They are moving forward with 2 litigation cases with evidence of vote manipulation
from actual on the ground investigation.
I think he's right.
I had to read about this from yet another link found with google as there is no reputable site talking about it and the link Ananas posted wanted to put a bunch of cookies on my computer
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Heres what I can say to it. i voted early, about a week and a half early. and i have pretty good eyesite, and the place was PACKED and I was able to see about 7 different peoples votes as they just held their cards in their drooped hands as I did. and all 7 were for Trump,because i could see the marks. and several of those 7 were women. I don't see any room for fraud because there was volunteers from both partys on hand to supervise the voting and watch as you put your vote in the machine and you yourself could see it clic 1 mor vote as the card was read.
Your side was believing Mike Lindell, who didn't show any evidence for weeks,
and when he finally did show something, it wasn't actually showing anything.
It was a complete "trust me bro", from start to finish.
Election Truth Alliance STARTS with the evidence.
If the fraud is built in to the voting computers, like your own side accused Dominion of doing, then you would not see any fraud. The only way to detect it, is seeing a difference between exit polls and vote counts or a difference between hand counts and electronic vote counts. You would also see a discrepancy between voter turnout and vote share. That's the exact claim they are making. Your side just investigated the wrong machines.
The machines are verified, but they can be programmed to understand the difference between verification actions and real voting actions, and only apply their meddling during the real use. Read about 'dieselgate' to understand how that works.
Trump got 60 court cases, to prove his claims about voter fraud. He didn't provide
any concrete evidence and lost. Let these guys show their evidence and we will see
if it sticks.
I'm not ready to get my hopes up. I'm even doubting if it would make any difference,
if they prove voter fraud in court, beyond a reasonable doubt. It would just go up to
the Supreme Court and they are by majority pawns of Trump.
of the Election Truth Alliance.
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Make up your own mind.
When 'the radical left' makes a claim, they are providing evidence, telling people
where to get the raw data, and how to do the statistical analysis yourself.
They even provided a course for the people who don't know anything about
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Still, phart, in his lifelong endeavour to deify his Dear Leader, will doggedly deny, deny, deny.
the electoral collage, them doing more gerrymandering, purging voter rolls,
shutting down polling places and having Elon literally buy registrations and
give prizes to only MAGA voters. At what point are you still supporting the idea
that democracy is about the vote of the majority?
Can evidence make you believe otherwise?
where was all this anger in the 2020 election?
And I wouldn't piss on Pillow man if he was on fire. He kept hollaring he had evidence and never showed it. don't trust him.
Please read about Peter Thiel's vision for the future. It is fucking scary.
Some of these tech bros are completely mad. And this guy is co-founder
and owns a big chuck of Palantir, a very scary company. There is no more
a 'deep state' asshole, running a 'deep state' company, than this guy.
And you want his protegee to run your country?
He is everything you people have fear-mongered about FOR DECADES.
everyone involved should go to jail.
If you think that people will elect JD Vance then, you are crazy.
He SAID he had evidence, but he never showed it, because it was a LIE.
Trump's claims were based on that lie and you believe(d) that.
Some folks like Ananas want a 1 world government. and when the US doesn't vote like they want it to, it upsets their apple cart.
If europe was such a great place, why did the Pilgrams come here? Why did my german ancestors struggle to get over here in the late 1700's? There had to be some really serious issues over there or the US would still belong to the Natives and i wouldn't be born because my german ancestors would have never met my Cherakee ancestors .
I DON'T. Stop STRAW-MANNING me!
It is quite simple really.
If governments operated as you wish them to, all governments would be the same eventually and consolidation would be the next natural flow of things as people like yourself would look at how inefficient it is to have so many people doing the same job using the same laws and same operating procedures . putting resources towards 1 central government for a smaller more efficient machine, thus 1 government ruling the world. if you look at your theorys on how things should work, that would be the final stage. think .
Humanity needs it, or it destroys itself.
I don't like a "central government" at all.
Socialists want PEOPLE in power, not the government and definitely not
a CENTRAL government.
My Socialist Party is the most grass roots party IN THE WORLD.
The members have power from the bottom up. There are people in the top of the organization, but they all exist in their position at the behest of the members. There isn't someone like Chuck Schumer, who has a 17% approval rating,
in my party. He would have been voted out long ago.
That's a decentralized structure for just our party, but we support that structure for every organization outside our party too.
After we have discussed so much, just still don't understand even the smallest bit about my/our principles and goals. That's really sad.
This is our international page. Where do we say we want a centralized government?
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Yea, right, the place would sink like a rock.
And you would constantly fight greed, same as with capitalism or communism. there will always be those that are greedy.
It would never work well.
people usually are not jacks of all trades. work at walmart during the day, determine the proper route for a water system and acquire right of way by night. or work at mc donalds and then determine which tank and which airplane the country needs to buy for defense by night.
It is best for those people to be able to vote for representives to do their work for them.
People who are involved in the process, talk with each other about the problems they are facing, understand the causes, and think of solutions.
"the average Susy or Johny come lately that works at walmart"
Yes, them too. When they are involved, they can understand more than you think.
Are they not allowed to vote in your country?
You think they are too dumb to be involved in power, but you don't think
that they are too dumb to VOTE? How do those dumb people understand
who represents them then?
How are they not just voting for the most effective LIARS?
I want them to be INVOLVED, so they won't make the ignorant choices
that they are making now.
They are NOT voting for representatives who work for them.
They are voting for LIARS, who are screwing them.
Do you think that the Republicans and Democrats are actually representing
the "average Susy or Johnny come lately"? OMG!
Will you?
I will also protect that right for people I disagree with. Will you?
If you don't protect your democracy and you throw away your freedom,
it doesn't just affect me, or you, it might destroy the whole of humanity,
because the US is the most powerful country in the world.
That's MY business too, I'm part of that humanity.
Do you understand how much people sacrificed, to give you that vote?
Poor, exploited people, all over the world, suffered and died for that right.
Then they finally found some wise people, who put their right into law and created a system to protect their right; The Constitution, and a government that was designed in a way to to protect and defend it. You, as a voter, have the responsibility towards those people, to use your vote well, and to consider its effects, on ALL the people.
When you have a choice between Biden and Trump, you vote for the lesser EVIL.
You vote for the one who respects your vote, to vote again, for better options.
Biden was in no way a threat to democracy, Trump IS, and his supporters LIKE it.
Biden didn't do enough to save humanity, but Trump is speeding up the destruction.
Yes, it's your choice, but I'm angry that you don't understand that you have a RESPONSIBILITY to at least fucking INFORM YOURSELF.
My vote doesn't affect you. If my country goes NAZI, one big nuke cures that.
If your country goes NAZI, we are ALL FUCKED!!!
Hey, Cody8789, do you have an answer?
Do you think that it's OK to say what you said, and then just bugger off?
I have come to expect more from you. Was I wrong?
These are the people who always shouted about The Constitution the loudest.
Now they happily vote for people who tell them that their life is worth nothing.
Can you explain their thinking to me? You live among these numbskulls.
Trump is not only telling me that my life is worth alot and that my country is worth far more and is working to make America FIRST and is doing everything he can to protect AMERICA, if it makes others mad, fuck em,
this is the kind of shit that makes your side of things more dispicable.
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until someone brain washed people into thinking they had some".
You are calling your founding fathers "someone brain washed people".
You want to reject the one most important idea that makes us human,
the ability to make moral choices. The invention of human rights is one
of the most important moral choices that humanity ever made.
It's a moral choice that Christianity never accomplished.
Still, all religions propose an idea of "Universal Human Dignity".
It looks to me that you even reject that.
When did Trump say anything like that your life is worth a lot?
I'm not asking about your value to the economy or to him,
but just your value as a sentient being with hopes and dreams,
and him recognizing that every human being has that value.
I know he values your loyalty, but stand up to his demand for loyalty once
and you are worth less than a cockroach to him. Tell me I'm wrong.
no you got that wrong. there were no rights until someone brain washed people into thinking they had some. then wrote down their liberal wet dreams on paper.
of course they inserted some things in there good. but most of it,is entitlements, not RIGHTS , to me there is a difference.
That's what they hired the Cyber Ninjas for, and they said there was no evidence.
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When you NEVER have a serious answer to ANYTHING,
why should anyone listen to you?
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