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By Cunt_Man [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 23:27 other posts 
I am so proud of being an american right now
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 06,Aug,25 03:15 other posts 
Many German people were proud to be German too, in 1938.
The ones who survive until 1970, not so much.
The large majority of the German people now consider their history very shameful.
By Cunt_Man [Ignore] 06,Aug,25 03:17 other posts 
su-re, american industrialists helped financially bring hitler to power.Russia signed a pact with him, enabling him to bring war. The vatican praised hitler and at the same time winston chrchil praised a leader of an adolf hitler. The knew the intensions of the 3rd reich after reading mein Kemph, What about the vatican giving hitler his first prestige..It all worked for global ddominance until hitler bit off what he could not chew,, invasion of stallingrad. He knew the war was lost following but he killed more.. Germany's guild is the worlds guilt. Here in 2025 I'm proud to be an american.. No more giving the to number 1 sponser to terrorism, no more hamas, R7ussia is stubborn but eventually will go broke.During the war The german people protected jews,, more than any other country in the world
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 06,Aug,25 03:19 other posts 
Are you proud of that too?

My principle is to be critical of my country and my government, at all time.
They don't have to represent my opinions, because we live in a democracy,
but whatever opinions they do represent, I could only be 'proud' of them
if they pass a whole number of moral standards.
Inciting hatred towards groups of people is an immediate FAIL.

Yes, many Germans did not support Hitler making the Jews the scapegoat and gaining power from inciting hatred. If they were caught helping Jews, what happened to them?

Trump has gained power by inciting hatred against LGTBQ+ people and immigrants.
If you're proud because of the hatred against LGTBQ+, you're just a bigot, and we cannot have a discussion about that.
I agree that illegal immigrants in a country are a problem, but HATE IS NEVER OK.
Your country could solve that problem without the hatred.

What is so special about the specific group of Jews, that they should be protected,
no matter what they do? They suffered from Hitler's evil, hatred and prosecution,
but that's no justification for them doing a genocide of themselves.
They have no more right to that piece of land than the Palestinian people.

Correct, the Soviet Union (USSR) under Stalin and Nazi Germany under Hitler,
signed a non-aggression pact, known as the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (August 1939).
Did you know about the Munich Agreement? On 30 September 1938, Britain (Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain) and France agreed to allow Nazi Germany to annex the Sudetenland region of Czechoslovakia, in an attempt to avoid war (a policy known as appeasement). Hitler, Mussolini, Chamberlain, and Daladier signed it.
Were they then just as bad as Hitler?

The world is indeed, for big a part, complicit with the evil of WWII,
but it was Hitler who used hatred against a group of people, to rise to power.

Rising to power, by using hatred towards people, is what Trump is doing.
You might agree with some things that he's doing, but being PROUD!?!
By Cunt_Man [Ignore] 06,Aug,25 04:33 other posts 
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 06,Aug,25 05:36 other posts 
Well, at least you "Love your enemy". Can't say that about Trump.
Funny, how a random guy I meet on an adult forum would make a better POTUS.
By Cunt_Man [Ignore] 06,Aug,25 13:16 other posts 
I have no enemies sir. I validate your opinions not necessarily in agreement but I do the best I can to be objective with the foundation of justice and truth with transparency..

I was a democrat until 2012. What changed my mind was the lack of transparency, the depletion of our economy especially after the 9/11 tragity. Then when they were supporting Iran, the number 1 sponsor of terrorism in the world who was responsible funding 9/11 I realized I made a mistake. JFK was a democrat who I considered the 4 best of all time once he was murdered it didn't matter who won the presidency because they worked for the globalist network.

Trump on his first primary was the key to me switching. Close the border, convert education local which is key, and foreign policy namely GDP % contributions towards NATO to be level. Shrink government to where they are responsible for maintaining national sovereignty and defenses. The governments needs to be employed by the people, not by abuse of power.

But the key point was the leveling business model making tariffs level playing field. Why should americans pay for free healthcare in europe? Why should we pay for free education when the citizens here can't even afford going to college? Why open the borders with leeches getting free healthcare, education with spending allowances while our blue city streets are flooded with poverty?

There are still deep state operatives in the repubclican party and it is divided with smoke screens. That is why the media and democrats with some republicans hate him so much because he sought to change the business model of politics..

The only way democracy can work is to use the desire creating a more perfect union becoming educated through critical reasoning. The country must be educated. Right now america is 32nd in the world even though they spend more money on education than anyone. This is corruption. Dumbing america, propaganda and forced poverty has taken its toll.


By CAT52! [Ignore] 03,Aug,25 09:26 other posts 
In a small town west of Cincinnati Ohio.
The detaining of hundreds of people on immigration charges earns the jail more than $24,000 a day or $720,000 a month in fees paid by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) – on top of $36 an hour in transportation fees the jail charges Ice.

So much for “wanting to do something about the illegal”.
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By phart [Ignore] 03,Aug,25 12:22 other posts 
One study suggests that in 2016, the federal government spent approximately $974 million on emergency and lifesaving services for undocumented immigrants through Medicaid, representing a small fraction (0.2%) of total Medicaid expenditures.
Other estimates suggest a higher cost, with one organization reporting a figure of around $7 billion annually for the uninsured undocumented population in 2019.


so why not some lower paid folks earn some money from the crisis? and once they are deported and the border is fixed, the spending on them is over
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,Aug,25 13:23 other posts 
Meanwhile, undocumented immigrants in the U.S. pay about $96.7 billion/year in taxes.
You're not spending on them, you're taking from them.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 07:39 other posts 
Whatever the cost, it has to be.

“Hospitals are supposed to provide emergency care to all patients who come in the door, regardless of their ability to pay or their immigration status. The requirement is in line with the Hippocratic Oath and enshrined in federal law, specifically the 1986 Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA).”

This has been around for almost 40 years. Lots of Repuckers have been in charge with no changes.
By phart [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 22:22 other posts 
it is my understanding that the care is limited in cases like that to what is necessary . i do think it would be a good idea for ice to be at most hospitals to pick the illegals up as they leave for deportation. would save chasing them around


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Jun,25 10:37 other posts 
How Socialists Solved The Housing Crisis
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If you don't like socialism, provide a link to a video called:
"How Capitalists Solved The Housing Crisis"
By dgraff [Ignore] 29,Jun,25 11:20 other posts 
I will not live on top of each other if my neighbors are less than 500 feet next to me that’s to damn close but I figured out that if I buy all the land around me i don’t have to worry about neighbors
By CAT52! [Ignore] 29,Jun,25 14:46 other posts 
And your neighbors don’t have to worry about you.👿
By dgraff [Ignore] 29,Jun,25 15:28 other posts 
The only way my neighbors would have to worry about me is if they identified as a democrat
By CAT52! [Ignore] 30,Jun,25 09:09 other posts 
And there it is.
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 03,Aug,25 13:44 other posts 
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 03,Aug,25 13:45 other posts 
Dgraff, cat wants to move next door to you
By dgraff [Ignore] 03,Aug,25 15:19 other posts 
No I already have an old slut from Florida living down the street from me she gets drunk and parades around in her pink Biden hat i swear if I ever get a hold of that hat I will throw it in my wood chipper then she will have pink Biden pieces
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 03,Aug,25 17:02 other posts 
Why do you think that is even related to this?
You don't need social housing, you can afford to buy.
So do I, but I still think people who are not as lucky,
deserve to live in a decent home as well.
By dgraff [Ignore] 29,Jun,25 16:48 other posts 
What’s wrong with a cardboard box under a bridge by a river just think you could be fishing every night and swimming great exercise
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jun,25 04:36 other posts 
What's wrong with that, is that it's turning people into garbage.
They are a useless burden to society. It's your fault for creating them.

I'm not a lefty/socialist out of compassion alone, but because it's better for ALL OF US.
It maximizes people's potential, so they contribute to society.
Bums in cardboard boxes don't contribute anything. Well, maybe diseases.
By dgraff [Ignore] 30,Jun,25 07:35 other posts 
it’s a simple life some people prefer to live like that
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Jul,25 03:50 other posts 
Oh sure, they intentionally went to live in an apartment where the landlord tripled their rent, so they could go bankrupt and live in a nice box, or they intentionally had an accident, so their medical bills bankrupted them, so they could live in a nice box, or they intentionally picked a demon wife, who divorced them, took all their money,
so they could live in a nice box.
By phart [Ignore] 06,Jul,25 12:30 other posts 
whats wrong with a person taking a job and making their own way in life?
whats wrong with putting down the needle or the bottle and going to work?
whats wrong with not having kids or pets if you can't feed them>?
whats wrong with people that they think the rest of us owe people that choose to be worthless bums a damn thing?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,Jul,25 03:23 other posts 
There is nothing wrong with any of those actions.
What's wrong is your 'thinking' that those problems apply to all bums.

Your system is very good at crushing people, who do everything right.
There are many people who have no fault at all for getting crushed.
People's lives can also get crushed to rubble, AFTER having kids or pets.
Losing ones job or losing ones health is a big risk of that. No fault of them.
We should have a system who prevents occurrences like that crushing people.
The US didn't have that already, but your political side made it even worse.

There is nothing wrong with people who think we owe each other,
there is something wrong with people who think everyone is on their own.
It isn't logical and it isn't consistent with any religion.

In any case, the majority of people don't agree with you, and they will fight back.
The worse it gets before they succeed at it, the harder your side will fall.
By phart [Ignore] 06,Jul,25 13:55 other posts 
if your neighbor can hear your harley crank up , they are to close.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,Jul,25 04:20 other posts 
There are too many people on this earth, to all live more than half a mile apart.
By phart [Ignore] 06,Jul,25 08:34 other posts 
herded them all into a controlled environment with no reason to want to do better and move out into housing paid for by their own money. what a concept.
taking away all motivation to improve 1's self by making sure the folks know they will not suffer for being lazy and non productive.
tax the rich to pay for the lazy, the rich will just leave and your system would not support it's self.

edit, i got to thinking, damn, i must be poor, i don't have access to a swimming pool.
so can i live in this cheap government housing since i can't afford a pool? wait, i can get a plastic kiddy pool from walmart so i guess i don't qualify.

what would motivate people to do better for themselves if they are living cheap off the governments taxing the "wealthy" ?
and where is the line between wealthy and living in this cheap housing? what is to stop bill gates from putting his estate into a trust and moving in?
By CAT52! [Ignore] 06,Jul,25 12:12 other posts 
Wanna bet? You think these billionaires are going to abandon the mother load? You are naive.
By phart [Ignore] 06,Jul,25 12:25 other posts 
well, hey, if they can keep their fortune and live on the cheap, whats to stop them in this utopian environment?
By CAT52! [Ignore] 06,Jul,25 13:21 other posts 
Utopian? You are calling the Clown's presidency Utopian? Hahaha.
By phart [Ignore] 06,Jul,25 13:53 other posts 
and you think bidens mess was utopian>?

do you have a pool cat? maybe you could move into that fancy place built on the tax payers dime?
if you don't have a pool,you are poor according to the socialist
By dgraff [Ignore] 06,Jul,25 14:02 other posts 
If Biden was still president we all would be eating dog food by now I’m glad he’s gone or soon to be
By phart [Ignore] 06,Jul,25 14:29 other posts 
well i am glad he is gone as president for sure, but i would not wish his cancer on anyone. that goes a tad past my ways of thinking.
what we as a country need to be looking at is who do we put in for 2028? we need to continue the progress we are making as Rome was not built in a day and our country was not torn apart over night. it takes time,aka years, to fix the fucks up of obama-biden, just the border crisis alone will affect us for decades as we don't know how many terrorist swam over and spoke some spanish to get a free ride to wherever
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,Jul,25 05:13 other posts 
Keep lying to yourself, while your country crumbles.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 06,Jul,25 17:09 other posts 
Actually, I do. It's an inground pool, but it has nothing to do with the fact that the Biden administration was smood and prosperous while this Clown's first 6 months has been disaster after disaster. High prices, suits and counter suites, millions of tax dollars spent on lawyers, trade wars with trading partners and war mongering.
By phart [Ignore] 10,Jul,25 12:17 other posts 
how could capitolist solve the housing crisis?
well first, they would reduce the stupid regulations that cause houses to be so expensive.
We can't use what are referred to as tiny homes in my county, zoning won't allow it. why? because the democrat led county would rather bring in sub divisions with 400,000 dollar plus homes into the area and tax them.

another thing, the bullshit laws preventing you from building your own home on your own property should be abolished. you can't even cut lumber from trees on your own land to use in your home. your home,not the countys home that taxes it.

developers push down acres of trees and burn them to make way for new houses and then import lumber to build them. the very trees they push down and burn could be made into lumber and used on the homes being built. it was done that way years ago.
but not any more. why? because dems can't collect sales tax from the lumber.

i could go on, and may add some more later. but i have a feeling common sense,back to basics solutions are not what you are looking for.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Jul,25 16:12 other posts 
Why don't you ask ChatGPT? Ask it a question that shows you objectively seek the truth, instead of needing your world view confirmed.
By phart [Ignore] 10,Jul,25 18:23 other posts 
i don't use chat gpt, i would use grok, and besides, i don't need a confirmation, i am only asking and trying to get you to understand your liberal ideas are not the only 1's that might work. liberals typically will not respect a idea if it comes from someone they don't like
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 14,Jul,25 09:33 other posts 
I think you've tried, but you couldn't even make Grok confirm your ideas.

I'm NOT supporting "liberal ideas", related to housing.
"Liberal" in that sense mean exactly what you want. Liberalization of housing means: privatization and deregulation. That's exactly what our government did and which resulted in skyrocketing rent and house prices.

I'm not a liberal, I'm a socialist, I support public ownership.
That's the opposite of privatization and deregulation.

First get your terminology straight, before you discuss economic models for housing.

Right wing policies, (neo)liberal policies, privatization and deregulation,
have NEVER on any significant scale resulted in lower living costs for the public.

However, left-wing (not liberal) policies have been proven to work many times.
When governments increase public ownership, regulation, and long-term investment in housing, affordability, quality, and access tend to improve, especially for lower- and middle-income households. This has been tried and done large scale many times, all over the world, to great success.
There is overwhelming evidence that it worked in Vienna, Austria, Sweden, Singapore and The Netherlands, until the 1990s. I have lived the successes and I have seen the results of privatization and deregulation all around me.

Houses are not so expensive because of stupid regulations, houses are so expensive because it's one of the simplest way for rich people to exploit poor people, when a government privatizes and deregulates housing.

I don't THINK that my ideas the only 1's that might work.
There is just a FUCK-TON of EVIDENCE that your ideas DON'T work and mine DO.
Civilization has been building houses for a while now. Right?
All the ideas have been tried and tested, all over the world.
They just keep telling you that you need deregulation, because it makes a small group of wealthy people even more wealthy, over the backs of everyone else.
You just listen to the people who get paid to LIE FOR THEM.
By phart [Ignore] 14,Jul,25 10:45 other posts 
there is government housing all around.
you can identify it quickly if the buildings are more than a couple years old because there is trash everywhere, they are covered in graffiti ,with junk cars in the parking lot and a mobile police tower nearby.
because the people that use that housing don't work,won't work and do not take any pride in what is provided,don't appreciate it nor do they care how others feel about the way they treat what is provided for them.
if you were given a home, how would you treat it? more than likely you would keep it clean and so forth,why can't everyone?

i worked with a black man for a while and sometimes we would go into poverished areas of town while working and i finally ask him 1 day," why is all this trash laying around?" he said, "because they are poor". i pointed to a plastic grocery bag laying near a park bench and ask him how money it would cost to pick up that bag,put some loose garbage in it and place it into a city provided trash can. he suddenly couldn't answer that question. people are quick to blame their lack of funds on all kinds of issues. and for some reason folks like you tend to make it taboo to ask them why funds are relevant to taking pride in what you do have and taking care of it.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 14,Jul,25 10:57 other posts 
You base your opinion only on what you know from the US.
If you don't want to inform yourself about what the rest of the world does,
your worldview on this is totally skewed.
By phart [Ignore] 14,Jul,25 19:17 other posts 
i can't fix the rest of the world, therefore why worry myself about it>?

you are over there,living what apparently is a very blessed life,not a care in the world.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 15,Jul,25 17:15 other posts 
They are doing lots of things much better than you.
You could actually learn a lot, from the successes of others.
But, you would rather believe that you're the best at everything.
By phart [Ignore] 15,Jul,25 22:14 other posts 
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 16,Jul,25 04:34 other posts 
It's NOT "all about supply".
It's a thing that CAN work, if you don't want to change the system itself,
but it's a policy of accepting defeat to capitalism.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 02,Aug,25 07:14 other posts 
Seriously, do you expect a redneck American to have an idea about the world? He doesn't give a shit. His world is his Oklahoma, say, village, and anything beyond that is communist regime.

And he goes to church too.

And brings guns, just in case a foreign guy walks in.
By phart [Ignore] 02,Aug,25 12:55 other posts 
damn skippy, i mind my countries business, you mind yours. and if you kept your crazys and their brain washing in the middle east, we wouldn't need to carry guns to church.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 02,Aug,25 20:10 other posts 
You carry guns to church to shoot your crazy compatriots. Only American idiots go to your crazy churches. Only American shitheads shoot other Americans. In your churches. In your schools. You're a primitive society dude.
By phart [Ignore] 02,Aug,25 20:42 other posts 
yea, sure,if you think so, at least we are not longer under your countrys thumb bowing to a king , we fought our way out from under that back in the 1770s much to your dismay.hheeheeheeeee.

Violent crime, including offenses like assault, robbery, and homicide, has seen an increase in recent years. In 2022-23, police recorded over 2.1 million incidents of violent crime,

In England and Wales, there were approximately 6.59 million crimes recorded by the police in 2024/25, a slight decrease from the previous year. However, this is still one of the highest figures in the past two decades.


now that does not sound civilized. so clean up your own back yard you bunch of wankers!!!
By leopoldij [Ignore] 03,Aug,25 00:28 other posts 
I know. British are morons for having a king. It's shit. Monarchy is just as stupid as religion.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,Aug,25 13:29 other posts 
If the king doesn't have any power, I'm OK with monarchy.
They are a very expensive mascot, but people seem to like it.
It gives a country some status. Trump was very happy to stay in our palace.
He's our top diplomat. Not as smart, but he gets the job done.

I think religion is more stupid. At least my king and queen are real.
The Trump administration is heavily meddling in other country's business.
Hell no, that people like me cannot speak out against your wannabe dictator.
The media that right-wingers consume has a clear intent to keep their viewers ignorant about anything happening outside of the US, unless it's negative.
It's propaganda! They can't have citizens knowing how their politics is failing them.
It's the same in Russia, North Korea, Turkey, India and a whole lot of other countries with authoritarian leaders. Every single wannabe dictator starts with taking control of the media and the judiciary.

I wouldn't say that all churches have this effect on people, but I would be very surprised if phart goes to one of the more liberal churches.

Their news is 24/7 fear porn and anger incitement. The result is people who prefer their personal idea of safety, rather than an actual safer society.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 03,Aug,25 16:23 other posts 
I agree 100% with everything you say.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 06:49 other posts 
Oooh, that's dangerous. Never stop being critical of me too.

“If you agree with me 70% of the time, let’s work together.
If you agree with me 100% of the time, you’re probably in a cult.”

Have you ever seen the MAGA people disagree with each other here?
By leopoldij [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 15:40 other posts 
Well, to be more specific, I agree 100% on your latest post. I haven't taken an average of my agreement, so I don't know what it is.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 16:23 other posts 
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