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Started by bella! [Ignore] 13,Aug,23 07:15  other posts
This thread is for questionable content. WHY? Just because! I am someone who enjoys the Hodge Twins. YEP, the Hodge Twins. They probably make the hairs on the back of a WOKE person stand straight up! Anyway.....

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By phart [Ignore] 03,Sep,25 21:44 other posts 
i ask Grok a question to answer a issue elsewhere and the answer was so good i thought i would share it here for all the antigun folks. it takes a human with a desire to harm to make a gun function, read this


can a gun in a drawer shoot on it's own?

No, a gun in a drawer cannot shoot on its own. Firearms require an external force to operate, typically a human pulling the trigger, which initiates the firing mechanism. For a gun to discharge, several conditions must be met:

Loaded Chamber: The gun must have a round in the chamber.
Trigger Activation: The trigger must be pulled with sufficient force to engage the firing mechanism (e.g., releasing the hammer or striker to strike the primer of the cartridge).
Mechanical Failure or External Force: In extremely rare cases, a malfunction (e.g., a faulty sear or drop safety failure) combined with a significant external force—like a strong impact—could theoretically cause a discharge. However, modern firearms are designed with safety mechanisms (e.g., drop safeties, trigger safeties) to prevent accidental firing even if dropped or jarred.

A gun simply sitting in a drawer lacks the energy or mechanism to spontaneously fire. Environmental factors like heat, vibration, or magnets cannot activate a trigger or ignite ammunition under normal conditions. Ammunition requires a precise strike to the primer, which only the gun’s firing mechanism can deliver.

If a gun is stored unloaded (no round in the chamber) and with proper safety measures (e.g., trigger lock or safe storage), the risk of accidental discharge is effectively zero. Even in cases of mechanical defects, spontaneous firing without human intervention or extreme external force is virtually impossible.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Sep,25 04:55 other posts 
Nice, you got Grok to confirm completely useless facts. Good job!

"Hey Grok, Can a depressed man, who doesn't own a gun and doesn't have one near him, shoot his brains out on a whim?"

"No, a depressed man who doesn’t own a gun and doesn’t have one near him cannot shoot himself on a whim. Without access to a firearm, it’s physically impossible to carry out such an act impulsively. If you or someone you know is struggling with depression or suicidal thoughts, reaching out to a trusted person or a professional resource like a crisis hotline (e.g., 988 in the U.S.) can provide immediate support."

"Thanks Grok! How about pills? This guy on the internet took my will to live, with his
brain-dead nonsense..."

"I’m really sorry to hear you’re feeling this way—internet nonsense can be exhausting, can’t it? To answer your question, a depressed person without access to pills (like prescription or over-the-counter drugs in sufficient quantity) couldn’t impulsively overdose, just as they couldn’t use a gun without one nearby. It requires having the means readily available, and even then, it’s not a simple or inevitable act.
More importantly, it sounds like you’re hurting, and I want to help. If someone online is dragging you down, it might help to step away from the screen for a bit or talk it out with someone you trust. Those brain-dead comments don’t define your worth. If you’re feeling overwhelmed, a hotline like 988 (in the U.S.) or a similar service in your area can offer a listening ear, no judgment. Want to share more about what’s got you feeling this way?
I’m here to listen."
By phart [Ignore] 04,Sep,25 07:13 other posts 
can that same depressed man go walk out into the road in front of a truck?
you would have to nail his door shut
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Sep,25 08:28 other posts 
Sure, but that would hurt a lot, if you don't get killed immediately.
That would be the last thing that I would do. However, I can't imagine any of it.

It also leaves some time to come to your senses. Picking up a gun and blowing your brains out can be done in seconds, AKA 'on a whim'. Finding a good spot to run under
a truck or train takes longer, maybe hours. The walk alone good help settle emotions.

That suicide can also hurt other people. Many people still care about that, when they
are killing themselves. It's something that survivors of suicides say they struggled with. Obviously, we can't ask the ones who were successful.

There are many ways to kill yourself and many ways to kill someone else, but none are so convenient and effective as using a gun.

I was surprised that only 55% of suicides in the US involved guns though.
Personally, I would prefer it over the other popular methods.
Suffocation / Hanging: ~27%
Poisoning (including drugs/overdose, chemicals, gases): ~11%
Other methods (jumping, cutting, etc.): ~7%

Damn, we're going down a very dark hole now. See what you did.
By phart [Ignore] 04,Sep,25 12:41 other posts 
well, after having to deal with the aftermath of my former girlfriends suicide attempts, i learned alot about it. mostly women use drugs to do it because they can still be pretty in the casket, or at least that is what her dr told me.
slitting the wrist is the next up thing women do, if they cut it in line with the blood vessel,it is more difficult to stop the bleeding, she tried that a year before the last attempt,2 inch cut along the main vessel, just a few more minutes and she woulda bled dry.
and here is the part you won't believe, she had access to guns of all sorts, and chose a knife and pills instead.
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 04,Sep,25 18:14 other posts 
Sounds like she was looking for attention and not to end her life to me, someone that really wanted to commit suicide would have done it. She needed help and was reaching out for someone.
By phart [Ignore] 04,Sep,25 21:48 other posts 
29 gliclazide pills were in her stomach when she went into a comma and i called 911, the doc said that would have killed most people, by lowering blood sugar dangerously low.
when she slit her wrist, she did it alone,and had cussed me out and told me to go away and stay gone. the neighbor came over to borrow a movie to watch and saw her in a pool of blood. i think she was done with life. she is now in the care of the state and is usually tied to the bed because she is so violent if they try to get her off meds
By bella! [Ignore] 04,Sep,25 21:51 other posts 
I agree with your assessment because the saying is; “Where there's a will, there's a way”.


By phart [Ignore] 03,Sep,25 09:53 other posts 
gee, you gave him back his car, totaled.
whats the gain in that?
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since the police ruined the car, they should have to replace it in my opinion. the thieves would have eventually stopped to get gas or food or whatever, and the car could have been retrieved for the most part intact and usable. this is a case of emergency services just assuming everyone has insurance so fuck it, it don't matter.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 03,Sep,25 12:41 other posts 
The role of law enforcement is to catch and arrest law breakers first and, if possible, protect property second.
By phart [Ignore] 03,Sep,25 17:25 other posts 
that still does not excuse them from leaving the folks without a car. and the insurance company having to pay for it.which in turn cost US money in the long run


By phart [Ignore] 02,Sep,25 12:19 other posts 
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i had to share this 1. funny!
i hope it will show up soon.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,Sep,25 05:58 other posts 
They could have added a dirty hedgehog to the Muppet Show. I don't see the problem.


By phart [Ignore] 31,Aug,25 18:23 other posts 
stupid is is stupid does.

she is going to get arrested again.
didn't learn a damn thing. she should keep her ass out of a war zone. can you imagine the hoopla if she got caught by hamas and was a hostage? we would never hear the end of it.
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those hamas freaks are probably thinking, " um some nice young ass is coming,all we gota do is grab her " i mean really, what else would hamas gather from her presence?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Sep,25 08:10 other posts 
Who has ever before used the term 'narcissism', for caring about nature,
humanity who is dependent on it, and people who are mass murdered?
Damn, that's dumb.

The author is Stephen Pollard. From 2008 until December 2021, he was the editor
of The Jewish Chronicle and he remains a senior advisor, and writer on the paper.
You're literally parroting Israeli propaganda.
By phart [Ignore] 01,Sep,25 10:36 other posts 
uh, what happened in june when she went to gaza? she was arrested. that is not propaganda,it is fact you can read about here online. she is going back, that proves she learned nothing, that is not propaganda, it is fact,she is doing it.
why is it parroting if it is fact?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Sep,25 10:56 other posts 
Yes, she was arrested. So? Was that a lawful arrest?
Should she 'learn' something from getting arrested for protesting?
Protesting is a right. The law should not be abused to 'teach' people
to not use their democratic rights.

Propaganda isn't 100% untrue, it's about flipping the truth to serve a goal.
The propaganda is trying to make it about her, by calling her narcissist,
instead of addressing the reason why she is protesting; a genocide.

I wouldn't call it propaganda, if it was just a statement of facts.
I'm calling it propaganda, because he's creating a narrative to attack her character.

She is a protester. She has shown herself to be consistent in her principles.
She's not in it for herself. Even you questioned her sanity for spending all her time
and risking life and limb on these issues. She does it, because it attracts interest
to the problem that she is protesting against. That's the goal of literally all protests.
She's not there to get admiration from people, she's there only for the purpose.
People who don't like that, because of their political agenda, try to discredit her,
instead of honestly discussing their differences of opinion. That's a dishonest tactic,
but you seem to like that, or you just don't perceive it.

You better learn to perceive it, because that's how they hack your mind.
By phart [Ignore] 01,Sep,25 12:17 other posts 
you know well as i do where she is going can be very unsafe for a female. she would be a great hostage, bringing attention to hamas and it's terrorism.
it would be much safer to stay away , but she is going willingly, and should she be captured, no effort should be made to retrieve her moreso than folks taken hostage by no fault of their own.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Sep,25 13:38 other posts 
Is that an argument for calling her a 'narcissist'?
She does put herself in dangerous situations, true.
Are only men allowed to do that, in your opinion?
Getting bombed by Israel is the biggest risk there.
By phart [Ignore] 01,Sep,25 14:56 other posts 
nar·cis·sist
/ˈnärsəsəst/
noun
noun: narcissist; plural noun: narcissists

a person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves.
"narcissists who think the world revolves around them"

so yea, i would say the word describes her well,

if all things were equal as you and many others claim you want it to be, women and men would be treated the same way if they were in danger. but it's not that way. people tend to be more upset about a woman being a hostage or in danger than a man. why?,i don't know.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Sep,25 16:41 other posts 
Why do you think that? She is sacrificing a good paying job, her comfort and her safety, for a good cause. That is something that narcissists never do. They only do what benefits themselves. They don't even understand the concept of doing something for others or the common good.

It's like on Memorial Day 2017, President Trump visited Arlington National Cemetery, accompanied by then–Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly.
Kelly’s son, Robert, a 29-year-old Marine killed in Afghanistan in 2010, was buried
in Section 60 of the cemetery. While standing by his son’s grave, Trump reportedly turned to Kelly and said: “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?”.
By phart [Ignore] 01,Sep,25 21:04 other posts 
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what are they floating in, rafts? what's a little storm?
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she has autism
Does Greta Thunberg have ADHD?
Greta Thunberg is a young climate activist who attributes her passion for preventing climate change to her autism.

How rich is Greta Thunberg?
Greta Thunberg has an estimated net worth of $100,000 in 2025. Her net worth in 2025 consists of modest earnings from book royalties, most of which she donates to environmental causes. She also earns income from documentary rights and receives publicly disclosed support for basic living expenses.

so where does this basic living expense come from??? taxes?

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not all that hot either but i bet hamas would still love to get ahold of her
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 02,Sep,25 09:49 other posts 
Greta Thunberg attempted to travel to Gaza aboard a vessel named Madleen (formerly called Barcarole), a UK-flagged yacht operated by the Freedom Flotilla Coalition. She boarded the Madleen in Catania, Sicily, on June 1, 2025, as part of a humanitarian flotilla, aiming to challenge Israel’s sea blockade and deliver symbolic aid to Gaza.
The Madleen carried essential supplies like baby formula, flour, rice, diapers, water-desalination kits, medical supplies, crutches, and children’s prosthetics.

The Tesla wasn't a permanent gift, but she did use it during her 2019 North American tour.

There’s no evidence she has ADHD. Greta Thunberg has been diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome, which is part of the autism spectrum. I know exactly what it is, because one of my best friends has Asperger’s. He has some problems making decisions and standing up for himself, but people with Asperger’s are in no way narcissists.

That she donates her earnings, is showing the exact opposite of what you are trying to demonstrate.

She could be rich of her book royalties & publications, speaking engagements, awards and prize money, which would have added up to millions by now, but instead she does not keep any of the income personally. All proceeds go into the Greta Thunberg Foundation, which redistributes them to climate and social sustainability efforts. Greta leads a minimalist lifestyle. She avoids luxury and flies only when absolutely necessary. Instead, she favors trains, electric transport, or sailboats. For practical needs like travel and lodging, Greta’s family covers those expenses rather than relying on income from her activism.

It's all evidence that calling her a narcissists is rediculous, she's the opposite.

To you Hamas are some evil idiots, but they do understand when people support their cause of freedom for the Palestinian people. They would not hurt her.
It's sad that you can only think in black and white.
By Lookatmine2 [Ignore] 02,Sep,25 03:03 other posts 
Well, she is a potato, so there is that!
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 02,Sep,25 09:52 other posts 
Do you have any arguments for saying that, or is your brain not capable
of any higher thinking than just primitive mocking?
By phart [Ignore] 02,Sep,25 11:23 other posts 
i was thinking a Idaho potato? read it slow, think about, she is a bitch for hamas!
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,Sep,25 04:03 other posts 
At least you're considering her a quality potato.

1) She should be prepared to get taken hostage by Hamas.
2) She is a bitch for Hamas!
Claims 1 and 2 are contradictory.

People who think Hamas is cool, don't care about the freedom of Palestinians.
Protesting against the genocide of Palestinians and wanting freedom for Palestinians, is the opposite of 'being a bitch for Hamas'.


By phart [Ignore] 18,Aug,25 11:31 other posts 
no emotion, didn't even move his lips as in saying oh shit or nothing. killed 3 people like tossing out a cig.

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and there will be no justice for the family,unless there is a chance a company hired this idiot and the family can sue them. but for the illegal, he aint got anything, all he has to do is run for the border once he is out on parole or bail

just look at this guy, has the most evil look in his eyes, as if it was a deliberate act to kill people.
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Aug,25 15:54 other posts 
So you finally found some "illegal" who was doing shit. Congratulations.
He didn't even do it on purpose. It's reckless and he caused the death of 3 people.
That's bad, but according to you, all illegals are drugdealers, murderers and r@pists.
The only thing you come up with, in months, is some truck driver who fucked up.

By the way, he's NOT officially an illegal immigrant. That's a false statement.
He claimed asylum, which can take years to resolve. His case is still pending in immigration court. He paid a $5,000 immigration bond. While waiting, he was granted
a federal work permit, which allowed him to lawfully remain and work in the U.S..
That enabled him to lawfully acquire a commercial driver’s license in California.

From Jan 1 till July 31, 2025, there have been 268 mass shootings in the U.S.
Total casualties include 262 people killed (including perpetrators) and 1,161 wounded.
NONE of the perpetrators have been identified as illegal immigrants.

The US is mostly deporting hard working people. Where are all those drugdealers, murderers and r@pists that Trump keeps talking about?
By phart [Ignore] 18,Aug,25 17:23 other posts 
watch that second video, and look at his actions when he watched that van crash into his trailer, no remorse, no regrets, no oh shit,what have i done, just blank stare.

of course he cried for asylum, that's how the terrorist get in here and hang out in plain site.
i call this a terrorist attack although it only killed 3,it has harmed alot of lives, you know family.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,Aug,25 02:43 other posts 
You cannot know what is happening in his head, from his expressions.

A terrorist attack is an act of mass violence for political reasons.
You're now twisting definitions to fit your political agenda.

Where are all the real drugdealers, murderers, r@pists and terrorists?
You're only deporting fruit-pickers, roof-workers and hairdressers.
By dgraff [Ignore] 23,Aug,25 11:05 other posts 
What the fuck is wrong with you I watch your posts and I find you to be a horrible person
You’re braggadocious
Self centered
Obnoxious
Highly opinionated and a bit of a know it all to name a few
People don’t like that I bet you got beat up a lot in school
By phart [Ignore] 23,Aug,25 22:24 other posts 
well he is not alone dgraff, look at this shit!
1.6 million people so far here in the US have signed a penton asking for the indians release, "it was just a accident". are you fucking kidding me? he watched 3 people die and didn't even as much as wince.
a cold heartless motherfucker is all he is.
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By Cody8789 [Ignore] 24,Aug,25 01:01 other posts 
Wow, I seen that video and got the impression that he didn’t give a shit about anyone but himself. I say beat the fuck out of him, stick his turban up his ass and send him to elsalvador prison for more beatings.
By phart [Ignore] 24,Aug,25 08:08 other posts 
By phart [Ignore] 24,Aug,25 22:08 other posts 
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Did you see any video of him, besides the dash-cam?
Did he know then that he caused the death of 3 people?
You watch him knowing the result, thinking he knew it too.
Understand that this idea puts your brain in a certain state.

I agree that he was being incredibly stupid, but I see no INTENT of killing anyone
and I don't think that you can determine his emotions from a few seconds of video,
that is cut short and likely shows an angle of the accident that he couldn't see.
That camera is much more to the front and higher, than his line of sight.

Why do they pause, or end, or loop the video, at his expressionless face?
I have searched for more video, but I cannot find it. Did you?
Do we have any video or reports about what he did when he found out?
Maybe he starts crying like a baby, directly after they cut it.
Can we believe any media reporting, if they all cut the video short?
Show me real evidence of him being that horrible person, and I'm with you.

Just a tiny thing about that turban, do you who wear turbans like that?
I'm opinionated? You lot have an opinion about someone from the first second
that you hear "immigrant involved in crash". If I don't agree with phart calling it a "terrorist attack", you find me to be a horrible person. I have standards for terms:
"Intentional, directed violence, against civilians to instill fear and achieve political, religious, or ideological goals."

Meanwhile, you lot have been making fun about driving over protesters, when you don't agree with those protesters. You agree with intentionally killing protesters,
that you don't agree with, politically. That does fit the definition of terrorism.

You lot have made a hero from a 17 y.o. kid who went to a protest carrying an AR-15, 'definitely not looking for trouble', but finding it, and killing 2 people, wounding a 3th.

If you do agree with protesters, you will cry for years, when one of them is killed.
I find you two horrible people, for your bigotry.

I'm here discussing opinions, you just drop them on people
and then chicken out for talking about them. (not you phart)

You're just belittling everyone who doesn't agree with you.
How about that, for being 'Self centered' and 'Obnoxious'?

Take a look in the mirror!
By dgraff [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 06:57 other posts 
At least my country doesn’t have a city used for drug use Amsterdam comes to mind
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 07:08 other posts 
Opinionated much?

What the hell does Amsterdam have to do with it?
That's the weirdest change of subject (Red Herring fallacy) ever.
See, you're chickening out from the actual subject again.

My country, and even Amsterdam, has less problems with drugs, than the US.
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The US has such a horrible opioids problem that it's central to you border security policies and pointed out by Trump as the reason for the tariffs with Mexico and Canada.

In 2023, the US had 105,000 people dying from overdoses.
80,000 of those deaths involved opioids.
(population: 334.9 million) -> 31.4 o.d. deaths/100,000 people
23.9 opioid o.d. deaths/100,000 people

In 2023, the Netherlands had 338 people dying from overdoses.
178 of those deaths involved opioids.
(population 17.88 million) -> 1.9 o.d. deaths/100,000
1.00 opioid o.d. deaths/100,000 people
By bella! [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 08:01 other posts 
C’mon, Ananas2xLekker, I almost peed myself when I read your comment to dgraff; “Opinionated much?”.

With all due respect, you are very opinionated with regard to the United States of America, from our government, our governmental policies, all the way down to how you perceive how Americans raise their children. Just sayin’…..
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 08:38 other posts 
I didn't say I'm not, I'm just saying dgraff is too.

I stand for my opinions, I always provide a justification or at least a reason for why I have them. I am here to discuss them. I don't just drop a zinger of an opinion and then just bugger off.

Show that I'm wrong, and I'll accept that I'm wrong. Those guys just cower off,
when they cannot defend their position any longer. You can see it for yourself
in all the abandoned discussions.

When other people have an opinion that I disagree with, I don't just belittle them,
I always try to explain why I don't agree with them or why they are wrong.
I only call them dumb, when they keep repeating the same tired old nonsense over and over.
By dgraff [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 08:48 other posts 
Thank you Bella ass holes come and go all the time but you and I stay standing tall
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 09:32 other posts 
It’s interesting that you say "you and I stay standing tall". One of you is definitely holding their ground with some honesty and substance. The other is just puffing their chest while throwing cheap shots. I’ll let others decide which is which.
By dgraff [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 11:38 other posts 
And until someone comes along that’s big enough and bad enough I will still stand tall in my own way
By the way the standing tall was about seniority 10 years a piece but I guess that went right over your head
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 15:30 other posts 
In forum discussions, bigger and badder doesn't matter.
In relation to seniority and 'standing tall', are you talking about your dick?
Congratulations!
By dgraff [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 08:46 other posts 
And the democrats and their open borders caused it
So put that in your opinionated pipe and smoke it
By phart [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 10:59 other posts 
By phart [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 08:00 other posts 
in the case of protestors being ran over is a different situation. they are there blocking a road, most of the time with tools that can damage cars,harm drivers and they are violent with evil intent. the folks in that black van were simply living their lives using a public hwy in the way it was designed. i have even read remarks about where are the skid marks? shows just how dumb they are. modern vehicles like that van have antilock brakes, which in turn means no skid marks. so far there is nearly 3 million people in America that want this asshole turned loose. those should all be put on boats and sent back where they came from
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 09:00 other posts 
Yes, of course that is different; this guy made a stupid mistake, while it would be
a conscious decision to run over protesters, not an accident.
If a white right-winger killed 10 black gay-rights protesters, while it is clear that
the driver was not in any danger, you would defend the driver, because you think those protesters are wrong on principle.

You can disagree with protesters blocking a road, but that's not a capital offense.
It's an inconvenience, not a violent attack, no reason for the driver to use lethal force to defend themselves.

What you include in that argument, could be an argument, if it was true, but that's no argument to allow driving over people, when it is NOT true.

It doesn't require new laws to allow people to defend themselves, when they are in danger. Your self defense laws are already taking the position of the one defending themselves, accepting their claim of being at risk much too easily.

I would never blame the people in the black car. They are innocent victims.
I don't know who those 3 million people are, and I don't agree with them.
The guy still made a very irresponsible and illegal move, causing 3 deaths.
I just don't see that as a reason to call him a terrorist, or an evil person.
Can you understand that morality is a scale, not binary?
By phart [Ignore] 18,Aug,25 22:07 other posts 
Trump tried to get him hauled off back home during his first term, then biden admin gave him all the credentials after he whined about being afraid to go back to india. why is he afraid to go back to india? did he commit murder there to??

a commercial drivers license is difficult to get for people that can read and speak english as a first language,not to mention the health card and such, and this fool makes a illegal u turn and kills 3 people and all folks can whine about is he is not illegal he is a asylum seeker. no he is a son of a bitch and he killed 3 people. death penalty and that way no one has to keep him up.
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,Aug,25 02:45 other posts 
Now you're just making up shit, showing your prejudices.
He will be punished according the law.
By phart [Ignore] 19,Aug,25 08:54 other posts 
but will the democrats let him be punished?
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here is the kind of shit i was referring to when i ask if the democrats would let him be punished, they want him to be made to do community service?!!!!!!! sheesh, that is not justice.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,Aug,25 11:29 other posts 
Yes, because they actually care about law and order, unlike you.

He will likely be judged guilty of either:

1. Vehicular Manslaughter (U.S., U.K., other common law countries)
Definition: Causing the death of another person due to negligent or reckless driving.
Examples: Running a red light and hitting another car.
Driving under the influence and causing a fatal crash.

2. Dangerous Driving Causing Death (Used in many countries, including Canada, Australia, and parts of the EU) - Focuses specifically on reckless or dangerous conduct behind the wheel. The "dangerous" part refers to behavior that a competent and careful driver would clearly recognize as risky.

3. Involuntary Manslaughter (broader term in some systems) - Used when a person kills someone unintentionally, but due to unlawful or reckless actions.

He can expect to be in jail for at least a few years.
He's very likely not getting his asylum anymore either.

If he was a MAGA-hat wearing white guy, causing the death of 3 immigrants,
Trump would pardon him the day after his sentence.
By phart [Ignore] 19,Aug,25 14:18 other posts 
here you are, educated people agreeing with my first impression of the man not showing any emotion at all. um, now do you understand?
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another 1 that is not professional but explains it, no remorse,even said um, a smurk,
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 20,Aug,25 04:22 other posts 
Your first piece of evidence is showing how drivers were exploited by the company he worked for, White Hawk. Truckers are already working really long hours, but that was not enough for this company, they felt the need to scam with hours. He was probably dead tired. When a company overworks all their drivers, that results in the accident trend that she talks about. You're not saying anything about that. You're always blaming the employees, but never the employers. WHY?
She talks about a serious systematic problem with companies respecting safety standards, and you completely ignore it all. You're only talking about the things that fit your agenda. She talks 10 seconds about his facial expression, and that's the only thing you got out of it.

She's also making a judgement mistake by blaming that the truck was overweight on the driver. It's the company's responsibility to respect safety regulations. If they don't do that, they are most likely forcing all their drivers to drive overweight containers. Do you think he was in the position to demand anything from his employer?

She does point out correctly that there are lots of drivers on your roads who are unqualified to do so. This guy was obviously unqualified. Have you ever seen how they drive trucks in India? They have some of the most lethal roads on the planet. Maybe that's why he was afraid to go back to India. Most truckers don't survive to make it to retirement.

Instead of your government fixing the system, so you don't have Indian Mad Max drivers, the Trump administration, with the help of Elon Musk, has destroyed most agencies that need to investigate companies that violate the rules. And now your media is distracting you from that, by blaming the driver. Now you dumb-asses want to lynch him, without giving a shit about the systemic problems, that were already going on,
and which Trump/Musk have made even worse.

So go ahead, burn him at the stake! Do you think that will solve ANYTHING?
By phart [Ignore] 20,Aug,25 08:52 other posts 
eh, sorry, as a class a cdl driver myself, the laws here put the driver-operator responsible for the trucks weight and condition. a pretrip inspection will determine mechanical issues that can get you a ticket,like a light out, reading over the cargos documentation will tell if it is over weight, if it is, you are responsible.
and the tickets are not cheap. the dmv will give you a 2000 pound leway, but if you are 2001 pounds over, you get ticketed for the whole amount.

here is a google result

Yes, the truck driver can be held responsible if their vehicle is overweight, especially if it leads to an accident. While the trucking company and other parties may also share liability, the driver has a duty to operate the vehicle safely and within legal weight limits. Failing to do so, such as by ignoring weight restrictions or not verifying the load's weight, can be considered negligence and make the driver liable for resulting damages.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 20,Aug,25 09:29 other posts 
Exactly what I found. So the driver is NOT solely responsible.

It's likely that they forced him to break rules, because this company has a record
of multiple violations. If he can provide evidence that they forced him, that's called
"defense of duress". With their record, that's a credible defense.

“Coercion” under FMCSA rules:
Since 2016, the FMCSA “driver coercion rule” (49 CFR § 390.6) explicitly prohibits motor carriers, shippers, receivers, or brokers from coercing drivers into violating safety regulations (like hours of service, vehicle condition, or weight rules).

If the cargo's documentation is NOT showing that it's over weight,
then that's probably "fraud". He will certainly not be responsible then.
In any case, that's not applicable now, to his illegal U-turn,
but if he can show that they are consistently scamming him with his hours,
and overworking him, that is a legitimate defense.
He doesn't look tired in the dashcam footage, but he also doesn't look lively.
You said yourself that he looks mentally numb. That's a sign too.
By phart [Ignore] 20,Aug,25 17:02 other posts 
heres the thing, how far can a driver push his luck and still have a job? hey boss the brakes are shot on this truck! well, it's the only 1 i have so drive or go home.
ok, so he looses a job or he drives and hopes like hell shit don't hit the fan.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 21,Aug,25 11:08 other posts 
That's the dilemma, isn't it: How much do you need your job?

How about not making drivers responsible for making sure that companies
follow the law and respect safety?

The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) is the primary federal agency tasked with regulating the trucking industry. Its mission is to reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities involving large trucks and buses through regulations, enforcement, education, and research.

Under the Trump administration (and reportedly DOGE’s influence), enforcement actions and staffing took hits:

Enforcement dropped sharply. Enforcement actions by FMCSA declined nearly 60% in early 2025 compared to the same period under the previous administration.
This slowdown began soon after Trump took office, as new procedural requirements (like requiring legal review of cases) delayed enforcement. Cases of dangerous companies were left unaddressed, with some dropped entirely, even those involved in fatal crashes.

Staff reductions occurred in NHTSA, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, a sister agency under the U.S. Department of Transportation that sets safety standards for vehicles. NHTSA saw its workforce trimmed by more than 25%, dropping from 772 to 555 employees, which critics warn undermines safety oversight.

DOGE’s role (Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency): DOGE reportedly terminated staff at NHTSA, part of broader layoffs and reorganizations, and thereby could have weakened safety oversight.

I'm not saying this accident was a (direct) result of Trump's or DOGE's actions,
but they WILL cause accidents.
By phart [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 08:04 other posts 
trumps actions here should counteract any concerns you have about what doge did. only registered users can see external links
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 09:17 other posts 
OK, so no more Indian drivers. You must feel so safe now.

Are white American drivers never making illegal moves in traffic?
Can white Americans drive trucks from birth? No need to train and test them?
Can white Americans drive as long as the employers wants them to, without
ever getting tired?

Or will you just feel a lot better about it, when a white American does the exact same thing, causing the exact same number or more deaths?
By phart [Ignore] 20,Aug,25 16:58 other posts 
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didn't know but 1 of 4 signs he was shown, using a interpreter and had 2 not 1,but 2 cdl license issued to him from democrat states. see a pattern? democrat run dmvs issue people that can't speak or read english a license to operate a 40 ton metal object among us. so dangerous.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 21,Aug,25 11:31 other posts 
Oh sure, it's the Democrats' fault. PURE PARTISAN HACKERY, no truth to it at all.

It's ALWAYS Republicans who cut funds for oversight and safety, not Democrats.
You yourself are a big fan of that "deregulation".
How about regulation that keeps unqualified drivers from getting drivers licenses?

⚖️ Framing & Politics

Republicans: Typically frame these moves as “cutting red tape” and helping small trucking businesses survive.

Democrats: More likely to prioritize strict enforcement and stronger safety requirements, often aligning with labor unions and safety advocacy groups.

Safety Advocates’ View: Many Republican-led changes (especially delays/rollbacks of Obama-era rules) were seen as increasing risks of fatigue, speeding, or poorly trained drivers on the road.


Obama/Democrats/Biden introduced training improvements: MAP-21
(Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act, 2012).
It was a surface transportation reauthorization law that:
- Funded highways and transit for FY2013–2014,
- Reauthorized highway safety programs,
- Included permanent provisions like the Entry-Level Driver Training (ELDT) mandate and the Drug & Alcohol Clearinghouse requirement.


Republican-Led Deregulation Affecting Road Safety NEGATIVELY:

1. Hours of Service (HOS) Rules
HOS rules limit how long truck drivers can drive before resting.
Under the Obama administration, FMCSA tightened these rules (e.g., requiring two overnight periods in the 34-hour restart).
Under Trump (2017), Republicans suspended and rolled back some of those rest requirements, giving drivers more “flexibility.”
Criticism: Safety advocates argued this could increase fatigue-related crashes.
Industry supported it as easing unnecessary burdens.

2. Electronic Logging Devices (ELDs)
ELDs automatically record driving hours, making it harder to falsify logs.
Mandated under Obama (final rule in 2015).
Some Republicans tried to delay or repeal the mandate (Rep. Brian Babin of Texas introduced bills).
Trump administration implemented the rule but signaled openness to exemptions.
Criticism: Rolling back ELDs would reduce compliance with fatigue laws.

3. Speed Limiters
Obama-era FMCSA proposed requiring electronic speed limiters on trucks.
The Trump DOT (Republican-led) withdrew the rule in 2017.
Criticism: Safety groups say this killed a measure that could have reduced crash severity.

4. Entry-Level Driver Training (ELDT) Rule Delays Mandated by MAP-21 (2012).
Finalized under Obama in 2016.
The Trump administration delayed compliance twice (from 2020 to 2022), citing industry readiness.
Criticism: Delaying left gaps in training standards, potentially putting less-prepared drivers on the road.

5. Enforcement Slowdown
As I mentioned earlier, FMCSA enforcement actions dropped ~60% after Trump took office, partly due to new procedural hurdles and a general deregulatory stance.
Criticism: Allowed unsafe carriers to operate longer without penalties.

SEE A PATTERN?
By phart [Ignore] 21,Aug,25 14:12 other posts 
wow, not the first indian driver to kill people, only served 4 years for killing 16 people. that is not justice.
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 22,Aug,25 05:36 other posts 
That was a horrible accident. It was in Canada though.
They also blamed the driver, and he was certainly not innocent.

No matter if he caused the deaths of 100 people, by driving into a truck transporting nitroglycerin (just an example), an accident is still an accident. A judge should weigh the responsibility for the accident and the likelihood of what can be expected resulting from the risk, less what actually happened. That's why a drunk driver is also getting pretty severely punished, if they didn't cause any accident. They can be expected
to cause deaths. Judges shouldn't act on "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth".

"Over the past decade (2012–2021), Canada experienced a decline in commercial vehicle collisions and fatalities. In 2012, there were 400 fatalities resulting from commercial vehicle collisions, which decreased to 343 by 2021, a reduction of
over 14%."

"Regarding the involvement of immigrants in fatal truck accidents, specific data is not readily available. However, a study published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal indicates that recent immigrants are less likely to be involved in serious motor vehicle crashes compared to the general population. The study found a 45% relative reduction in the incidence of crashes among recent immigrants, suggesting they are less prone to being drivers in serious motor vehicle crashes."

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Now why is that?
When a 'native' gets into an accident, there are not immediately millions of people pointing at the driver. They will wait until the legal process results in a conclusion.
An immigrant driver is immediately blamed, and when they are found guilty, they don't just get punished like the 'native', they also often get deported. That's why they are
in general more careful. They have more to lose.

Still, an immigrant from a country like India with driving experience of the lethal roads of India, might not be the best suited for a driving job in a western country.
They should get extensive training and go through strict tests, before they are
accepted as qualified.

That's not what your regime is doing. You want to disqualify all immigrant by default and deport them without a chance, purely out of prejudices, while closing your eyes
to companies that cause accidents on the roads.

"Reports indicate that he had been driving for approximately 13 hours on the day of the crash, which is within the legal driving limits for commercial truck drivers in Canada. However, there have been discussions about the broader issues of driver fatigue and working conditions in the trucking industry."

I once drove back from Denmark, with friends, after our vacation together. It took 11 hours, because of traffic jams. We switched driving position several times, so I had probably driven about half of the hours. When we came home, I was beat.
Driving 13 hour on end is brutal. Why do we allow that to happen on our roads?
By phart [Ignore] 22,Aug,25 07:59 other posts 
in the moment i can't remember the hours that can be driven here legally before a rest stop, but the laws were changed and there is no where to park the number of trucks that have to stop, i will google later when i get chance but a couple people died last week hitting a truck that the driver was resting.had no where to go but the side of the road. citys and towns discriminate against all truckers until they want something delivered. but yet don't allow them to park to eat or sleep in most places.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,Aug,25 10:21 other posts 
That is a problem, but you can't solve it by just letting truckers drive until they are at their destination. That will cause even more lethal accidents. Drivers aren't robots.
In my country, there are not enough resting places either. The difference is that
you can drive from the most Northern end to the most Southern end in 4 hours,
if there are no traffic jams. It's mostly international truckers who have a hard time finding a resting place in my country. So, how should it be solved?
Either the government invests in resting places, or the companies that operate international truckers should be forced to invest in resting places on their properties. Just waiting until the problem fixes itself, is never a solution.
By phart [Ignore] 27,Aug,25 21:17 other posts 
so he can understand english? um, what does this tell us?

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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Aug,25 03:56 other posts 
Good enough to be a truck-driver, in my opinion.
The report itself says that he is capable of using translation devices.
Does the fact that he uses translation devices in court, tell you something?
The communication in court is a lot more complex than the communication
with a traffic cop. He came over very polite, by the way.

In the EU, drivers are constantly driving in countries that they don't speak
the language of. That doesn't necessarily make them worse drivers.
By phart [Ignore] 28,Aug,25 12:45 other posts 
punch em in the wallet!!!
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By sherryann [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 15:04 other posts 
You didn't expect emotional reaction did you phart? There's only few of us left with genuine emotions...And if you say what you rightfully think, you will be called a racist like I was from the ilk you're interacting with.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 15:36 other posts 
If I see so much different emotions, between when a white person does something bad versus a brown person, or a white person getting killed vs a brown person getting killed,
I'm indeed calling that racism. Are those emotions genuine? Probably, but not admirable.
By phart [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 22:31 other posts 
well, yea, i guess i would have expected at least a oh shit or something but he actually looked at it as more of a inconvenience or just a way to get out work.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Aug,25 16:42 other posts 
Do you see any emotions on the faces of white school shooters?
When was it ever an Indian guy shooting up kids?
By phart [Ignore] 27,Aug,25 08:01 other posts 
no emotions from a school shooter? um, simple, they have no conscience and are wanting to do harm.
terrorist

as for the indians, i have always thought they were a rather peaceful people except when it came to buying all the 7-11's and making a dollar.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Aug,25 04:31 other posts 
Again, you don't understand the term 'terrorism'. A school shooter is only a terrorist,
if they (there were a few female school shooters) act out of a political or religious or dogmatic ideology. If they are just crazy, even if they are without conscience and wanting to do harm, that's not 'terrorism', by definition.

Indians are mostly a peaceful people, especially the ones wearing turbans,
who are Sikh. The Sikh religion is the most peaceful religion on Earth.

They do have emotions, but they are taught to act from reason and divine remembrance rather than raw impulse. It's about balance: don’t let emotions dominate you, but also don’t bury them. Instead, integrate them with reason, remembrance of the Divine, and ethical living.

Sikhism teaches that one should act from a place of Naam Simran (remembrance of God) and Gurmat (the Guru’s wisdom) rather than from impulsive emotional reactions.
The aim is not suppression of feelings, but recognition and transformation—channeling emotions toward constructive, spiritual, and ethical action.
Example: Anger itself isn’t always condemned—righteous indignation against injustice is encouraged—but uncontrolled personal anger is discouraged.

The more 'extreme' a Sikh becomes, the less likely they are to even hurt a fly.
That's why I berated your use of the term 'terrorism' in his case. He fucked up,
he made his move intentionally, but I very sure that he didn't intend to hurt anyone. However, your first impulse is always to assume evil intent, when any person is doing something that results in a negative outcome, or just something that you don't like. You do that, because it's part of the ideology that you support. They are learned mental processes, which they teach you intentionally. It's so you can tell yourself
that you are 'morally correct' and everyone else is 'immoral'. It's a very effective strategy to discourage ethical and critical thinking.


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