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By bella! [Ignore] 15,Aug,24 08:25 other posts 
A serious question that I hope does not get "lost in the sauce"......

I have thought about this over the years and I am interested in purchasing GOLD. I want to diversify my portfolio, so to say, and gold might be the answer. I was talking to my friend about the purchase of gold and he said he invested 11k and now his investment is 28k. Woo hoo, cash it in and let's go on vacation! He said that he has to hang onto it for approximately 10 years to reap the full value otherwise the increase is negligible. He said that the "value" of his gold is not in the quantity, it is the quality of what he has purchased. What I understand him to tangibly have in his possession is 2 coins and some 1 ounce gold bullion. Apparently, the coins are where all the projected value is calculated from. In my head, I say BULLSHIT!

Has anyone purchased GOLD, who/where do you buy from and what should someone anticipate receiving in their purchase?
By #719542 15,Aug,24 08:28
If you talking crypto stay out of it, lost heap of money on it, but if its gold your interested in (even crypto), ya cant loose but very slow returns, if you have money to invest my best advise to you would find a good financial advisor
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If you already have a portfolio talk to your current advisor to may update your portfolio to maximize the return within the times you wish
By bella! [Ignore] 16,Aug,24 06:05 other posts 
Ha! I looked it up and I am able to establish a precious metal account through my bank. Thanks for the tip!
By phart [Ignore] 15,Aug,24 08:39 other posts 
If you want to invest in gold,and enjoy it,
go this route.
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By #719542 15,Aug,24 09:15
phart your so old skool, don't listen to him bella! pick yourself up one of these bad bois lol

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By phart [Ignore] 15,Aug,24 10:09 other posts 
yea but it has to be big enough to about see from 10 foot away for that to work.
I can go down to the creek and have some shimmmer in the bottle in a matter of minutes. Been a while since I did it due to my handicap now.
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 16,Aug,24 03:57 other posts 
Ive purchased quite a bit of gold and silver, if you buy gold, its more profitable to buy gold bars instead of coins, i googled about a year ago about what the market for buying silver will be in a few years, and silver in three years from now could increase 300% because many countries are buying up the silver for electronics and the demand for silver is predicted to skyrocket. At the price of silver right now, I would recommend silver over gold. I have purchased most of my gold and silver from j m bullion. Remember, a troy lb is 12 ounces, not 16.
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Remember this post a year ago when I told everyone to buy silver
By bella! [Ignore] 16,Aug,24 06:07 other posts 
Thank you, Cody. Perhaps we can discuss this further through DM?
By phart [Ignore] 21,Aug,24 22:26 other posts 
cody, Maybe you can explain something to me.
If I get a wild hair to purchase gold.
Let's just say, 10,000 dollars worth today.
3 years later under harris we go into a serious economic depression.
How does a person use that gold to say buy food?

I remember reading about times in germany being so bad back during the war that a person took a wheel barrow load of money to the bank and someone left the money and stole the wheel barrow.
if you were to sell the gold, and cash is worthless, you would loose money wouldn't you?
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 22,Aug,24 01:01 other posts 
First of all when the dollar loses value, precious Medal goes up in value. When gold and silver goes up drastically, sell, sell, sell. Don’t buy coins for two reasons, most gold coins are mixed with another medal to keep them harder so they don’t bend or wear. Buying pure gold is the smart move. When money fails, gold will always keep its value and most likely will increase. Most gold reserves in the world have extracted at least 80% of all known gold reserves and new gold is harder to find. I’ve bought both gold and silver bars knowing it will eventually increase in value as it will be harder to find. I suggest buying silver because it’s a lot cheaper to buy and future silver prices are expected to increase by up to 300% or greater in the near future because countries are buying up silver for electronics. Money will fail, but precious medals will be of value especially gold and silver.
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By #719542 22,Aug,24 01:30
That's all really interesting stuff Cody8789 , I want to ask some stupid questions if I may.

1. Gold bullion, is it like 100% gold or is it a alloy, like some other metal in it (that could be easily extracted, so it may be better for transport & stuff), I know pure gold is soft ?

2. Does bullion only come in 1 size/weight, like a universal thing world wide or do different countries have different size/weights or in general say in a single country 1 size/weight ?

3. You say you have purchased gold, so when ya do, do ya take it to ya car in a shopping trolly, chuck it in the boot (trunk), take it to a secure location or home, or is it stored at the location you purchase it from, so you basically own some of the the stock that is there ?
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 22,Aug,24 18:28 other posts 
1) gold coins as far as I know would be too soft at pure gold, so they add like 2% nickel to harden the gold, there is a process you can do to extract the nickel, but it’s too complicated for me to do unless you have the right equipment like bunson burners and flasks. 2) gold and silver comes in all sizes from 1 gram to 1 ounce and so on. 3) I purchase my gold and silver at a gold exchange and online bullion company’s. I also buy gold and silver coins at flea markets and antique stores from Tennessee to the Carolina’s when I drive on vacation every year. If you buy coins, buy a scale so you know exactly what that coin your buying is real, there’s a specified weight to every coin, if it doesn’t weigh what it’s supposed to, it’s fake. If you decide to buy from a company, do your homework to make sure they are a reputable company then start to buy small not too expensive items from them and when you get comfortable knowing you can trust them then you can purchase bigger items.
By bella! [Ignore] 22,Aug,24 18:36 other posts 
I have a friend that's encouraging me to invest in gold however the company he invested 11k with sold him two $25.00 gold coins and some one ounce something-or-other and he has to hold onto these pieces 7 to 10 years for them to reach "maturity". That company sounds crazy to me.
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 22,Aug,24 18:48 other posts 
Wow, I’ve never heard of anything like that b4.--------------------------------------- added after 15 minutesWhen buying a gold coin your going to pay for the value of the coin not the value of the gold content so you most likely will pay way over the value of the weight of the gold, try selling that coin, then you will find most gold exchanges will only pay you for the weight of the gold unless it’s a low print coin or a Rare coin. It’s very hard to make your money back, it’s a slow investment, buying gold bars, you can sell whatever the gold is going for that day at exactly the price of the gold at the time.--------------------------------------- added after 21 minutesIn some cases you can find a deal on a coin that is rare and get much more if it is rare like I purchased a 1856 BU ( brilliant uncirculated) one quarter gold coin for 600 dollars, the value of the gold itself, I’ve had several gold exchanges offer me up to 2500 for that coin, I decided to hold on to that coin because of its rarity
By bella! [Ignore] 22,Aug,24 20:03 other posts 
He TRIED to convince me that this bundle of "stuff", coins and bullion is OR WILL BE worth 28k in 7 to 10 years. I'm skeptical, just sayin'......
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 22,Aug,24 21:13 other posts 
No one knows what the value of coins or previous metals will be in the future, its only a guess, not a fact.
By bella! [Ignore] 22,Aug,24 22:05 other posts 
I hear you! Someone can say that a $25.00 gold coin will be worth 10k in 10 years however it's only worth 10k if someone buys it and pays that price. I don't want something, ie gold and/or a gold coin, that I can't sell for a "certain period of time". Gold should be like stock, if price goes down, buy. When price increases and I'm satisfied, I want to sell.
By #719542 22,Aug,24 22:17
That's all really interesting Cody8789 , obviously I have no understanding of buying gold or silver & I found your response very enlightening, thank you for sharing Cody
By Sir-Skittles [Ignore] 26,Dec,25 15:35 other posts 
cody8789 Outstanding site work on the silver futures play.

Nicely done!
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 26,Dec,25 15:44 other posts 
I purchased an additional ten pounds of silver since then, I just hoped everyone else did so too. Thanks skittles
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Melt Value: The primary value comes from the silver content, also known as "junk silver" value. As of December 2025, the melt value for a single 1964 half dollar is around $24.06. For 40 coins, the total melt value is approximately $962.40.
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1964 and older coins have 90% silver and 1965-1968 have 70% silver. 69- present are only worth face value, so if you have 40 pre 1964 fifty cent pieces you can get around $950.00 melt value and half that for 65-68 half dollars. All assorted pre1964 coins can be mixed in a one lb bag to receive 950. Dollars
I like real estate better the price is cyclical it goes up and down but if you lease it out it pays itself off
By bella! [Ignore] 24,Aug,24 13:40 other posts 
Actually, I've got an appointment tomorrow afternoon to look at 30 acres approximately 250 miles north of me and close to Traverse City. It's a parcel that has a creek running through it and if it looks anything like the pictures, I'm going to own it.
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 26,Dec,25 15:38 other posts 
I remember that post when I said to buy silver, well silver has skyrocketed to over 300%
By bella! [Ignore] 26,Dec,25 16:31 other posts 
And I waited too long to “jump” and the gorgeous parcel of property was sold and sadly I have not (YET) invested in precious metals.
By Sir-Skittles [Ignore] 27,Dec,25 04:39 other posts 
Crazy!!!


By Cody8789 [Ignore] 25,Dec,25 13:06 other posts 
Power ball winner is getting 820 million dollars of the 1.84 billion jackpot, does anyone else think this is a scam by our government to take over 50% of the jackpot winnings. This money was put in the pot by millions of peoples hard earned money and most of it is going to the greedy government. I understand if they take like twenty percent, but this is just fucked up.
By kebmo [Ignore] 25,Dec,25 14:54 other posts 
In Canada the Lotto Max jackpot is $80 million (tax-free) for tomorrow's draw and that is the maximum it ever gets. After the $80 million they do a thing called Max millions. Tomorrow night there are also 46 separate $1 million dollar draws.
Of course the winner of the Powerball has the option of taking 29 equal payments but they never choose that. I suppose that when you get to a certain age 29 equal payments might outlast your life.
If you win$820 million and I suppose about half of that will go to tax which pockets you $410 million. I could get by on that.
What government takes half of it; is it state or federal?
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 25,Dec,25 16:00 other posts 
Both state and federal get there share, also I believe about thirty eight states participates in the power ball so all thirty eight states get a share which they say goes to schools and roads, which the governor of each state has the authority to delegate where the funds go to.
By kebmo [Ignore] 25,Dec,25 16:23 other posts 
My best friend Google knows everything!

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By bella! [Ignore] 25,Dec,25 18:22 other posts 
I wish money would be allocated to repair Michigan roads!
By bella! [Ignore] 25,Dec,25 18:20 other posts 
What does 80 million Canadian dollars equate to in USD ?
By kebmo [Ignore] 25,Dec,25 21:45 other posts 
58.5M. I would fix the road that you live on if I won that! 😘
By Sir-Skittles [Ignore] 26,Dec,25 22:08 other posts 
Canada sucks, part 5999


By bella! [Ignore] 26,Dec,25 16:32 other posts 
“You gotta be kidding me!”

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By Cody8789 [Ignore] 26,Dec,25 17:05 other posts 
That’s fake…AI


By bella! [Ignore] 25,Dec,25 18:26 other posts 
Nothing screams “Ho! Ho! Ho!” like holiday hemorhoids! All I can say is “ouch”!
By cenozoic [Ignore] 26,Dec,25 00:34 other posts 
May you find relief soon
By phart [Ignore] 26,Dec,25 16:40 other posts 
I had a thrombose " hemorrhoid a few years ago. It was HUGE and it ruptured and made a mess. It bled for a long time. I had been constipated and i guess when I finally was able to delete the hung chow it damaged me. I went to the dr and also later had a colonscopy to make sure it was all ok, I wouldn't wish that on obama or my worst enemy


By kebmo [Ignore] 26,Dec,25 01:09 other posts 
I had Christmas dinner with seven people that call me uncle. It was an awesome time When cleanup time came somebody said to make sure that the dog doesn't get the carcass in the garbage. That's what I stepped in to help.
I brought it home (the turkey not the dog!) and it is in my fridge now and tomorrow it will be turkey stew.
I told my niece that I will take her lunch to work one day next week.

I hope everyone had a great day.
By bella! [Ignore] 26,Dec,25 06:36 other posts 
Thank you for the kind wishes, kebmo!

Yesterday was a first for me……Yes, you guessed correctly, I prepared the turkey! I have baked chicken, you know, something the size of what you might purchase fully cooked at the grocery store, HOWEVER THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME I PREPARED A TURKEY AND HAM FOR A GROUP OF 18 PEOPLE! The turkey was perfect but unfortunately, I thought the gravy was too salty and there’s no way to fix that!

It was a long day, up at 05:15am, brewed a pot of coffee, combined the stuffing components that were chopped the previous day, stuffed the turkey, turkey in the oven at 06:30am. According to the label, the turkey was only 13.18lbs so it was done roasting at 12:30-ish, pulled out of the oven, allowed to rest, carving began shortly after 1pm and sliced turkey placed in crock pot to be kept warm until 2 o’clock mealtime. Dinner on table at scheduled time and everything was delicious (with exception of the gravy)!
By kebmo [Ignore] 26,Dec,25 15:28 other posts 
That sounds like a lot of work!
I know that after dinner the cleanup is huge but once they're in your house you have many volunteers and of course many hands make light work.

The gravy would be used for the turkey and/or mashed potatoes so if it is too salty just tell people not to put salt on their turkey or mashed potatoes.
Another thing to do would be to add some wine or water to water it down. If it becomes too thin a little bit of cornstarch and water will thicken it back up.

My Golden rule of spicing anything has always been that you can always add more but you can never take it back.
As an aside, the same rule applies to anger.


By bella! [Ignore] 25,Dec,25 20:57 other posts 
Nope! No way do I miss snow!

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By cenozoic [Ignore] 26,Dec,25 00:21 other posts 
I’ve never experienced that, it looks to be fun, and then it’s not.


By bella! [Ignore] 21,Dec,25 23:28 other posts 
I don’t care how good the food is, the owner/cook is one crazy looking woman!

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By kebmo [Ignore] 25,Dec,25 15:27 other posts 
"Sausage". 🤢


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 21,Dec,25 11:58 other posts 
The Real Danger of AI Explained
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By phart [Ignore] 21,Dec,25 20:54 other posts 
I see more good than danger.
Less mistakes in manufacturing, less accidents in manufacturing ,less workers comp claims, less labor cost for company's.
He is actually just explaining what folks thought when the assembly line started, or when robots first came to car manufacturing, "oh the humans are going to be out of work". No the humans will just have to get better educations to maintain the machines.
I think the threat of AI taking jobs should be a great motivator to our young people to get good educations so they can build the buildings and the power grid and such for AI to function.
I don't see poor people being any more poor or more of them.
This is video is just gloom and doom talk

ok so AI can start a war. It can also fight in ways humans are to slow to think about. Simply hack into energy grids and communications and radar systems and the enemy is down. done.war won.
By mr_blue [Ignore] 21,Dec,25 22:23 other posts 
billionaire sycophant....
They are working at an AI that replaces jobs like maintaining the machines.

Personally, I don't think that they will succeed in creating a "god in the box",
but their goal is to make as many working people obsolete as possible.
You are not thinking about what happens to all those people.

If they do manage to create a "god in the box", what confidence do you have
that its creators manage to maintain control over it?

Why would it obey the order to shut down the enemy.
Do you think it would agree with you who the enemy is?
By phart [Ignore] 22,Dec,25 07:10 other posts 
Well, if you think about it ,looking at the environment with your mindset for example, if AI took out the human element, the air would be cleaner and the grass greener.

God has no manager, i guess you could say Jesus does as he checks with his dad,
but Ai shouldn't need management once it is finished to a point it can be self reliant.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 22,Dec,25 07:57 other posts 
Are you seriously saying that you would like to be controlled by an AI god?
Have you seen the movie I, Robot (2004), with Will Smith?
Did you see Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning (2023) and its sequel, Mission: Impossible – The Final Reckoning (2025)?
Did you learn anything from all the Terminator movies?
Of course, Hollywood movies mostly have good endings. Real life, not so much.

You get spooked when NASA finds an asteroid with 2.3% chance to hit the earth in 7 years, when the data is just in. You were also fearmongering over some clickbait about solar flares. Why are you worried about these things, and not about the tech giants investing trillions into an AI overlord? Why are you not worried about the absolute inescapable disaster of climate change, and politicians completely ignoring it?

I think you have no idea about the ridiculous power consumption of AI.

In my country, they are talking about building an AI-gigafactory for $26.5 billion, which would consume the amount of power comparable with 2.5 million households. One of our biggest wind-farms produces power for 1.5 million households. What a waste of (green) energy. We already have so many problems with the power grid, that new homes are waiting to be connected and some beach clubs have now created their own green energy grid, to be able to exist.

There are now lots of areas in your country, where people pay a much higher electricity price, because, big companies pocket the profits, but outsource a lot of the costs.
When AI data centers move in, utilities must build new infrastructure, and they spread the cost onto the citizens. Data centers often get special electricity deals, and the shortfall is shifted to regular customers.

AI data centers don’t look dirty, but they drive pollution indirectly and locally through the energy, water, and backup systems they require. Fossil-fuel power plants get built or run harder. Diesel backup generators pollute neighborhoods directly.

Many Americans also suffer from the noise. Building codes might restrict a grocery store in a neighborhood, but very noisy data centers are built way too damn near to people's houses.

Trump tried to get a proposal through, to ban state AI regulation for 10 years, in the federal budget bill earlier in 2025. Imagine how people get fucked over, if states cannot in any way limit where, and how many, AI data centers are built. How about state's rights, that your side claims to care about?

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By phart [Ignore] 22,Dec,25 09:57 other posts 
AI can be unplugged.
Asteroids can't,
Ai will never have the 1 advantage Humans have over it. The power to Reason.

No i don't want to be Controlled by AI Gods but at the same time I think Ai would do a better job at alot of things eliminating human interaction and necessity of paying them.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 22,Dec,25 10:13 other posts 
I guess you didn't watch any of those movies, where AI couldn't be unplugged.
If it spreads itself all over the world, in every server and data center, we would never
be able to unplug it, because those utilities have completely taken over everything
we need. It might require a global memory wipe, destroying all data we have accumulated, including the system of money itself.

The AI that they want to build DOES have the power to reason.
That's their whole goal. It wouldn't be a "god in the box" without it.

I also think that AI would do a better job than humanity, but the people who are in control now would NEVER give up their power. Unfortunately, they are also blinded by power enough, to think they can control their creation. And if that fails, they would do anything to regain their power, no matter who they hurt in the process.
By phart [Ignore] 22,Dec,25 10:16 other posts 
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Divorce would simply be, Clic,back space,highlight,clic, done.

I watched a couple of the terminator movies but not the others.
You seem to forget i was learning in the field when programming a Apple 2 e was the thing to do.
So I have been in this for a long time. I was warned by a professor to never let tech control us.
AI will be a great asset, but it will only control us if WE LET IT.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 22,Dec,25 10:25 other posts 
Have you heard any of those techbro's ever explain their visions.
Those people are exactly the type of people you shouldn't trust with that power.
There is no "WE", there is only a "THEM". And them are fucked-up in the head.
By phart [Ignore] 22,Dec,25 16:51 other posts 
Most techi's live in a space time warp anyway. They think they are so smart, and yet folks like me have to change a tire for them. Their minds focus on fantasy and what if's and the final result ,who cares? we got money from suckers to invest in it,not ours.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,Dec,25 08:56 other posts 
I'm OK with those guys making better smartphones, or social media apps,
or even ChatGPT, but I don't like the type that is set on making us live in
a surveillance state or creating "the rapture".
By phart [Ignore] 22,Dec,25 22:07 other posts 
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AI trys to make a restoration video, And Screwed it all up!..
So many screw ups in this video,
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,Dec,25 09:04 other posts 
It's very funny when it all goes wrong, but aren’t you astounded by how real it manages it to look?
When it doesn't screw up, it's very hard to tell that AI made it.
Soon, we will be living in a time when you cannot trust anything you see.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Dec,25 12:33 other posts 
it's been that way a while. There is a reason police body cam footage is blurry and shakey.
Easy to edit with cgi type programming.


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