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Started by CAT52! [Ignore] 14,May,20 02:51  other posts
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By phart [Ignore] 10,Jan,26 15:08 other posts 
D - eranged
E -rratic
M - indless
O - afs
C - rying
r - entlessly
a - bout
T - rump.


By leopoldij [Ignore] 23,Dec,25 08:53 other posts 
So much for the Nobel peace prize claimant, phart's supreme leader.
He's ready to take over one of the largest in area countries in the world:
only registered users can see external links
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phart must be delighted that his leader is acting as a pissmaker.

He must also be delighted I quoted fox "news" rather than an extreme left source like NY times.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,Dec,25 09:44 other posts 
Any time there is some bad press, like the current shit-show surrounding the release of the Epstein files, Trump does or says something hateful to please his base, to distract them.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 23,Dec,25 20:11 other posts 
Yes, obviously. But what do you mean "every time"?
You mean every day, every hour.
That guy is violating the laws every minute.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Dec,25 04:43 other posts 
Sure, he has been doing that, but if the media doesn't report on it, he can just quietly continue to do it. Only when his actions cause a huge outrage and even some irritation on his propaganda platforms, then he knows that it's time for a big distraction.
It's #10 in this summary of the "Dictator’s Playbook":


Dictator’s Playbook: Common Tactics Used by Autocrats

1. Systematic Disinformation and Falsehoods
Dictators deliberately spread lies, distort facts, and flood the information environment with contradictory or false narratives to confuse and overwhelm audiences, weakening public trust in objective truth and fact-based reporting. Methods include high-volume, multichannel false messaging that makes truth hard to discern.

2. Delegitimizing and Attacking the Media
Independent media are portrayed as hostile, biased, or “fake news” to erode public trust. By undermining the credibility of objective reporting, dictators make people doubt realistic or critical accounts of their actions. Modern autocrats often manipulate rather than fully censor media, using legal, economic, or rhetorical pressure to silence dissent.

3. Controlling and Manipulating Information Channels
Beyond attacks on the press, dictators control or co-opt broadcast and social media, sponsor proxy outlets, and use state propaganda to shape narratives domestically and sometimes internationally. This includes bot networks and troll factories to amplify regime messaging and drown out critical voices.

4. Politicizing or Capturing Institutions
Independent institutions (judiciaries, election authorities, regulators, law enforcement) are systematically weakened or staffed with loyalists so they no longer act as checks on executive power. This erodes democratic safeguards.

5. Quashing Criticism and Dissent
Critics, opposition figures, and civil society actors are harassed, criminalized, or intimidated. This can take legal, economic, or extra-legal forms, creating a climate of fear that discourages open criticism.

6. Scapegoating and Dividing the Population
Dictators often blame social, ethnic, religious, or external “enemies” for societal problems, fostering an “us vs. them” mentality that distracts from governance failures and mobilizes support through fear or tribalism.

7. Corrupting or Manipulating Elections
Even when elections nominally occur, dictators rig or coerce outcomes through gerrymandering, fraud, voter suppression, legal changes to term limits, or claims of fraud when they lose, all to maintain a veneer of legitimacy.

8. Reinforcing Executive Power and Weakening Checks and Balances
Emergency powers, constitutional changes, and legal reinterpretation expand the ruler’s authority at the expense of other branches of government.

9. Creating a Cult of Personality
Leaders often project an image of indispensable savior or national guardian to build unquestioning loyalty. This ties popular identity to the individual rather than to institutions or shared governance.

10. Distraction Through Major Events or Manufactured Crises
When a dictator faces embarrassment, scandal, or a legitimacy threat, they often launch a big action, controversy, or crisis narrative to shift public attention. This may include major military moves, controversial policies, “provocations,” or spectacle-driven events that overwhelm or bury negative news. These distraction tactics serve to reroute public scrutiny away from problems that could weaken their grip.

Why These Tactics Work:
- Erosion of shared facts: If truth is contested and people can’t agree on basic facts, collective criticism and accountability become much harder.
- Information overload: Flooding citizens with numerous, contradictory messages creates confusion and apathy, reducing resistance.
- Delegitimization of critics: By attacking institutions and critics as traitors or enemies, autocrats weaken social cohesion and independent oversight.
- Spectacle over scrutiny: Large distractions or crises capture collective attention, pushing deeper systemic issues out of the public eye.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 29,Dec,25 20:02 other posts 
Wow, that's an amazing list.
Thanks for putting these things together so nicely.
Much appreciated.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Dec,25 03:39 other posts 
Thanks, I did have a little help from ChatGPT.
It nicely summarizes all the research on the tactics used by autocrats.
Here is one of those sources: only registered users can see external links

I haven't read books on the subject, but obviously someone in the Trump regime
studied this for many years. Or, it was just Trump getting private courses from
Vladimir Poetin and Kim Jong-un. For all we know, Kim Jong-un presented Trump
with the exact same list, in one of his "beautiful letters". He follows it to the letter.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 30,Dec,25 13:45 other posts 
Thank you again.
I'm sure that trump hasn't read any of this. For one thing, I don't think he has the capacity of reading anything else except short text messages.
But, yes, he has people around who can read-- they're paid to do so I guess, and inform him.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Dec,25 12:18 other posts 
I aint to concerned about greenland. if it doesn't want to be taken over it can fight back.
By quint [Ignore] 23,Dec,25 15:14 other posts 
I think you are forgetting about NATO, not to mention completely missing the point
By phart [Ignore] 23,Dec,25 15:34 other posts 
Well Nato,like alot of other things that were good back in the day, is outdated and shouldn't even be necessary anymore. All countries should have their own defense systems and be ready to defend themselves at any time without having the US as a rent a solider every time a skirmish takes place.
By quint [Ignore] 23,Dec,25 15:44 other posts 
well I disagree. NATO is NATO with or without the USA and Trump is exactly why NATO is necessary.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 23,Dec,25 20:10 other posts 
Fight? 56 thousand people?
Are you an idiot?
Don't reply.
You are.
By phart [Ignore] 24,Dec,25 07:49 other posts 
who or what are you talking about?
Idiot? You are a useful idiot for the liberal socialist.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 24,Dec,25 19:02 other posts 
So much for the Nobel peace prize claimant, phart's supreme leader.
He's ready to take over one of the largest in area countries in the world.
You are showing again that when you are talking about "sovereignty",
you only care about it for the US, and NO ONE ELSE.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 30,Dec,25 13:46 other posts 
Typical redneck inhuman irresponsible response.
By phart [Ignore] 30,Dec,25 13:54 other posts 
typical liberal response, when all else fails call the person you don't like derogatory names.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 30,Dec,25 14:06 other posts 
Greenland, you redneck, does not want to be invaded by assholes. They're only 50 thousand people. They can't defend anything. They're peaceful and need to be left alone. So fuck you.
By phart [Ignore] 30,Dec,25 14:54 other posts 
Well, my goodness. Why can't they defend anything? Have they spent all their money on heating oil?
By leopoldij [Ignore] 30,Dec,25 19:27 other posts 
This is their defense capacity: defending themselves and their children from a polar bear attack. They have rifles for hunting. Anything else is handled by Denmark.

The Joint Arctic Command (JAC), the main Danish military body in Greenland, is responsible for defense and surveillance in the vast Arctic region. They use patrol ships, helicopters, and even dog sled teams for patrols, with plans to increase fighter jet presence and drones. A small but significant number of Danish military personnel are stationed at various locations, including Nuuk and Thule Air Base.

There is also a U.S. Military Presence: Pituffik Space Base. The U.S. operates this key installation (formerly Thule Air Base) under a 1951 defense agreement with Denmark, focusing on missile warning, space surveillance, and satellite control.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 31,Dec,25 20:27 other posts 
Thank you for posting this response.
I'm afraid that phart is cognitively dysfunctional that he's unable to understand or think. He'll insist with his nonsense.
He'll keep believing that the US must snatch Greenland and if don't want too bad. They should defend themselves, he says, when we try to fuck them up. He'll never question the fact that the US isn't allowed to fuck them up. He can't question anything that his imbecile dear leader utters.
By phart [Ignore] 31,Dec,25 23:11 other posts 
frankly I don't give a damn about greenland and haven't kept up with the hype, i sit back and yank your chain like a cheap swing set to expose YOUR dysfunctionalism.
You are the 1 that just calls me names like a 5 year old
By leopoldij [Ignore] 01,Jan,26 05:31 other posts 
Let's see how this started.
I wrote about the absurd motion of your supreme leader to try to snatch Greenland, a sovereign nation who does not want to be invaded.

You said
"I aint to concerned about greenland. if it doesn't want to be taken over it can fight back."

That's why i called you an asshole. Because you go along with an act of terrorism and aggression of your supreme leader.

I call you names because that's the only language you can understand. You have no capacity to understand what justice, peace, empathy mean. All you know is how to bend to a dictator and agree with everything he does.

That's why there's no adjective or noun to describe you. Asshole, fucktard, fascist, war-lover, inhuman, pathetic, bullshitter, redneck, and hundreds of other words are not sufficient to describe the fact that you're not human.

Greenland loves peace. Unlike you.
By phart [Ignore] 01,Jan,26 08:10 other posts 
I prefer peace.
There are words to describe you thankfully.
Arrogant asshole is the first 2 that come to mind.


But you are a necessary component in the bigger scheme of things.You are the stern reminder of the fact a functional safe society filled with productive happy humans has enemy's.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Jan,26 10:24 other posts 
When you prefer peace, the last thing you should do, is vote in a fascist dictator.
I know you don't know much history, but that should even be clear to you.
By phart [Ignore] 01,Jan,26 11:37 other posts 
You also should not vote for someone that allows terrorist and drug dealers to take over our country. biden let in 1000's of terrorist claiming to be asylum seekers. he let our military dwindle, leaving us defenseless. you can't have peace and be defenseless.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Jan,26 13:53 other posts 
Wow, 1000s of terrorists, and then still 95% of the terrorist attacks coming from right-wing lunatics. Trump is deporting the wrong people.

Those terrorists are just asylum seekers with "Mom" and 'autism awareness' tattoos, abused for justifying your crimes against humanity. Do you think that Hitler didn't come up with terms like "terrorist" and "vermin" for the Jews?
You are just as dumb to believe Trump as Germans were to believe Hitler.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 01,Jan,26 11:54 other posts 
Wasting your words my friend on him. It's impossible for him to understand that the threat os from within the criminal administration of his country and not, indiscriminately, from immigrants. Sure, they eat cats and dogs, but that's not as bad as having your freedoms stolen from your own convicted dear leaders.

He'll keep repeating, verbatim, what the dictator says. That's common among countries who've gone through totalitarian regimes. It's the unthinking, low intelligence, brain fucked, ignorant individuals that these regimes rely upon. (In addition to those who financially benefit from dictatorship.)
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“We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated.”
By leopoldij [Ignore] 01,Jan,26 11:56 other posts 
If you fucking prefer peace, why do you find that being a thug, like your dear leader, who openly wants to grab Greenland, not offensive to leave and justice?
By phart [Ignore] 01,Jan,26 14:25 other posts 
there doesn't need to be any violence if we took in greenland for security of our nation and the rest of the world. They would be better off more than likely.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 01,Jan,26 17:04 other posts 
Greenland does not want to be taken.
Fuck you.
It clearly stated so.
So fuck you.
EU does not want Greenland to be taken.
Fuck you asshole.
The UN is totally against any country annexing another.
Fuck off, piece of shit.
International law specifies this as an act of aggression.
Fuck you fucktard.
What part of the above sentences don't you understand fuckhole hillbilly fascist gun loving warmonger redneck?
I'm not as patient as Ananas2xLekker to write to you because you've no clue of anything beyond your village and do not know anything but blind obedience to a dictator.
So let me conclude with the ONLY language you understand:
Fuck you.
By phart [Ignore] 01,Jan,26 18:36 other posts 

un, eu, nato, all just Zits on America's ass draining it of it's money, resources and military ability's. If it had not been for America, you would be typing german now.
ungrateful idiot.

Besides,why do you care about greenland? you claim to live in UK, where they worship kings that have their wives murdered in tunnels so they can marry their mistress's and shit.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 02,Jan,26 03:46 other posts 
Your only example is 1940-1945, from BEFORE NATO was created.
The US had only one reason to defend freedom in Europe, in WWII;
it would have resulted in a competing evil superpower,
which would probably come to take over the US at some point.

NATO was created to in 1949, primarily to bind Western Europe to the United States militarily and politically, rather than allowing it to drift toward neutrality or the Soviet sphere.
It resulted in a big chunk of the world picking the Dollar as world currency, following American ideas of capitalism, and allowing the US to dominate capitalism. The US also wanted to be dominating in military strength, building bases all over the world.

From its creation, NATO was designed to ensure U.S. military dominance in Europe, to prevent Europe from becoming strategically independent, and to prevent neutralism or accommodation with the USSR.
Europe paid for NATO by giving up strategic autonomy and buy buying very expensive weapons from the US.

NATO has overwhelmingly served US strategic, economic, and political interests.
European participation was not 'charity' from the US, it was the price Europe paid to live inside a US-led global order that primarily benefited Washington.

When Russia invaded Ukraine, Europe saw the reality: NATO is not designed to defend Europe. NATO in fact assured that any major war with Russia would be fought on European soil, not American soil. The invasion of Ukraine was the first time that Russia posed an existential threat to Europe, and the US refused to take direct risk. The enemy who was the reason for creating NATO was rewriting borders by force in Europe, with direct implications for NATO members next door. The US explicitly ruled out direct military intervention, out of fear of escalation with Russia.

NATO deters only as long as the US is willing to accept risk.

Europe learned:
- It cannot outsource existential defense entirely to the US.
- It bears the primary risk of war on its own continent.
- American support is conditional, not guaranteed.

Never before was NATO tested in it's defense for Europe. And the first time it needed testing, the US FAILED it's responsibility.

However, after 9/11, NATO invoked Article 5, the ONLY time in its history.
This was done even though:
- The attack was not carried out by a state.
- It did not originate in Europe.
- It did not directly threaten European territory.
Still, European allies contributed troops, intelligence, logistics, and political legitimacy to a US-led war in Afghanistan.

After 9/11, NATO stretched its mission for the US:
- NATO reinterpreted collective defense to include:
-- Non-state actors
-- Attacks originating outside the North Atlantic area
This was a political choice, not a legal necessity.
Europe accepted that stretch in solidarity with the US.

The contrast with Ukraine. When Russia invaded Ukraine:
- A state actor invaded a European country
- With tanks, missiles, and occupation
- Creating direct instability on NATO’s borders

Yet:
- NATO refused to stretch its mission again
- The U.S. drew a hard line at direct involvement
- The justification was escalation risk, not treaty text

So the pattern is:
NATO was flexible when the U.S. needed help, but rigid when Europe
faced the consequences.

Conclusion: When the U.S. was attacked on 9/11, NATO stretched its mandate and fought a war far from Europe for America. When war returned to Europe in Ukraine, NATO refused to stretch its mandate again. That tells you who NATO is most willing to adapt for.

In short: The only time NATO has ever invoked collective defense was to defend the United States, not Europe.

UNGRATEFUL IDIOT!!!
By leopoldij [Ignore] 02,Jan,26 04:38 other posts 
He doesn't have a clue of what justice means. He doesn't even have a clue about history. As for truth, it doesn't exist. Typical maga idiot.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 02,Jan,26 10:15 other posts 
What would we believe, if we heard nothing but right-wing propaganda,
for decades? The liberal media are significantly better, but not enough to pull someone out of a right-wing echo chamber. Many hundreds of billions of dollars are spent yearly, by the wealthy and corporations, to perfect the right-wing indoctrination, and to keep 'liberal' alternatives loyally serving capitalism and defending the status quo. It's an uneven playing field.
As soon as a media company becomes too much of a threat to the wealthy, they are either not getting any money anymore or getting their management replaced. They exist by the blessing of the corporations
that own them. Liberalism and wokeness doesn't threaten them, but anything even close to socialism is immediately squashed or censored.

Republicans have been dominating local school boards for many decades, to influence the history taught to children. They pretended that children are indoctrinated with 'critical race theory', but the opposite is true. Conservative Christians have also fought for years to get alternatives for evolution in schools, as “Creation science”, later rebranded as “intelligent design”. Besides that, the conservatives have constantly battled to get courses on logical/critical thinking removed from the classes. All their efforts to keep the public gullible have clearly produced the desired results.

We might think that we have enough critical thinking skills to understand
when we are lied to as much and as consistently as phart has been lied to all his life, but would we have learned those critical thinking skills,
if we grew up in a red rural area? I have the IQ for it, but I'm not sure.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 02,Jan,26 18:53 other posts 
Perhaps not. And that's the cause of phart's disease.
He's been indoctrinated all his life in his redneck hole and has developed a completely perverse view of the world. He has no clue of anything but his village. And there comes a dictator who boosts his beliefs by lying.

He's not even able to understand simple things in simple English. I informed him that Greenland does not wish to be invaded. He can't understand the sentence and keeps saying "we want Greenland, we are going to take it" and he calls this peace.

Honestly, I've never met such an idiot in my entire life.
By phart [Ignore] 03,Jan,26 11:09 other posts 
And you still have never met me, you are a a stranger in even a stranger land.that has a king and castles like a 1000 years ago.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 11:51 other posts 
Phart I’ve never met you either, but, I’m not a stranger in this land, so I can opine about your existence. You are a typical MAGA person, uninformed, ignorant of history and geo-politics. A true redneck as modern times defines the term. You care little for the oppressed. Your only worry is “What’s in it for me.”. We know international justice is no concern of yours. You think you live in a vacuum where only the US exists. Well, you are wrong in many levels, but, the worst is that you have no humanity, no compassion, no foresight to realize that YOU are next.
Whatever happens in the next 355 days one thing is for sure, MAGA/Trump time will end on January 1, 2027. That’s when we’ll bring back the real American dream.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 14:03 other posts 
Anyone who says "i don't care about justice" is not a member of the human species.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 14:24 other posts 
I agree
By phart [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 16:21 other posts 
international justice, get it right asshole. Justice for America and the American CITIZENS first.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 16:27 other posts 
And everyone else second?
By phart [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 16:45 other posts 
You got it! AMERICA FIRST. Aren't YOU a American? why would you be against being the priority of your government over somalian people or something? ?
By leopoldij [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 19:33 other posts 
Equality under international law asshole redneck.

You are the filthiest piece of shit I've ever spoken to.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 10,Jan,26 10:15 other posts 
No, dumbass. Not first or second. E Q U A L…..
By leopoldij [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 19:35 other posts 
He s the worst kind of American.
Filthy nationalist fascist.
He doesn't want to see that there are Americans, like you , who are true human beings and not vermin like him.
By phart [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 19:39 other posts 
you are far less human than I am. You don't care for your own countryman, you worry about people that want to kill us all, steal from us all and etc.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 19:42 other posts 
Yada yada yada, bullshit redneck fascist
By phart [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 20:53 other posts 
Redneck not a derogatory term sir, you need to learn what it actually means.
It was used by the union army to describe southern farmers fighting with the confederates to try to save their family's and farms from being destroyed by the sorry ass union soldiers.
You are a childish ,liberal peace of shit communist.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 22:12 other posts 
"Communist"!
By phart [Ignore] 10,Jan,26 13:18 other posts 
no communist, with a lower case c as in inferior to anything else on earth. not worth respecting.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 10,Jan,26 10:19 other posts 
My Dad was a redneck and he was proud to wear that, but, it was when it meant hardworking everyday men who worked tough jobs. Now it’s a derogatory term. I believe Leo has it right. You are a redneck in every sense of today’s meaning. Meanings change. If you don’t understand that then explain the meaning of GAY.
By phart [Ignore] 10,Jan,26 13:19 other posts 
gay used to be mean happy until the tinkerbells took hold of the word. Like the swastika was a symbol of peace that was on indian tepees and alot of other things for many years until the nazi's took hold of it.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 02,Jan,26 04:36 other posts 
Because, unlike you, I care about humanity and about international justice.

Like I said, the only thing you understand is:
Fuck you.
By phart [Ignore] 02,Jan,26 05:54 other posts 
international justice is no concern of yours or mine.
By quint [Ignore] 02,Jan,26 07:39 other posts 
..said the sheep looking at the wolf on the neighbors property
By leopoldij [Ignore] 02,Jan,26 09:52 other posts 
Hope you're not aggreeing with him.
By phart [Ignore] 02,Jan,26 17:14 other posts 
I aint a sheep, i also aint every other countries baby sitter.thats the issue.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 11:54 other posts 
If you “aint every other countries baby sitter” then why you support a president that invaded a foreign country and is threatening to steal it’s resources ?
By phart [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 16:22 other posts 
Well, that country was sending dope here, so that is being STOPPED. The resources will be sold and the money used to rebuild the nation and employee it's citizens doing something clean,safe,legal , not to mention it will help with world wide energy cost by getting those resources out there for countries to buy and use.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 02,Jan,26 09:52 other posts 
International justice and humanitarian affairs *is* my concern, personally and professionally.

Your response shows EXACTLY what you are: NOT a, member of the human species.

Justice concerns us all, except, Americans of your kind.

Greenland is a sovereign country that does not want to be forced to be taken by force by American creeps.
By phart [Ignore] 02,Jan,26 17:20 other posts 
Well enlighten me as to why I should be concerned about Greenland? HUGE plot of land,

The island has the largest deposits of rare-earth elements outside China. Two thirds of the planet's fresh water outside Antarctica are frozen in Greenland, and its rock flour has unusually strong ability for soil regeneration and direct air capture of carbon. only registered users can see external links

Besides Trump is not the first 1 to realize that America could do alot more with greenland that greenland is doing with it's self.
As of 2021 Greenland's annual GDP was $3 billion, 0.007% that of the United State
with just that bit of info, it is obvious if the rare earth materials were mined for example the lives and economy of that island would be far better off.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 02,Jan,26 18:47 other posts 
Do you understand English?

Greenland does NOT want to be invaded.
By phart [Ignore] 03,Jan,26 10:53 other posts 
So, I didn't want biden for president but I was stuck with him for 4 years.
I didn't want the Edison light bulb to go away but it did.
We Americans want a better life and we want to choose what we buy and so on.
We also want to be safe, and have affordable resources. Greenland is full of resources that could improve our lives. They are doing NOTHING to improve their own economy or to better the world. they are sitting on it and freezing.
Why not offer to take it off denmarks hands and improve it to it's own advantage and ours?

I understand english just fine, it is YOU that can't understand simple logic when it comes to improving the safety of our nation and it's economy.

Thru out history conquest has improved the conquered

"What did Romans do to conquered people?
Instead of punishing conquered nations, Rome often treated them as allies, encouraging them to take part in the glory and wealth of building the empire."

"+Was Rome bigger than the US?
Erik Bishop if drawn up today, the Roman Empire would include swathes of desert making its landmass greater than the USA."
By leopoldij [Ignore] 03,Jan,26 13:36 other posts 
Greenland does NOT WANT TO BE INVADED.
By phart [Ignore] 03,Jan,26 18:54 other posts 
So? Neither did the Confederate States of America in 1863 but Lincoln did not want the south to be a independent nation ,he wanted to r@pe it of it's resources like cotton and Tabacco so he sent Sherman to burn kill and steel his way thru the south until we had no choice but to give up.
And you fully support that I am sure.Because they tacked the slaver issue onto the end of the paperwork to justify the invasion.
Now do you see what I am trying to do here? I am trying to show your hypocrisy.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 11:56 other posts 
Leo, you will have more luck getting understanding from a head of cabbage than Mr Phart.
By phart [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 16:24 other posts 
coming from a floret of broccoli I will take the cabbage as a compliment!
By CAT52! [Ignore] 10,Jan,26 10:20 other posts 
Broccoli and cheese? Yummy.
By phart [Ignore] 10,Jan,26 13:20 other posts 
waste of good cheese!
By phart [Ignore] 03,Jan,26 11:11 other posts 
and as usual, you didn't answer my question why international justice and such should be my concern, you just go off on a tangent about me being a idiot.
But you are the idiot for thinking you know it all and I don't.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 03,Jan,26 13:36 other posts 
International justice is every human beings concern.
By phart [Ignore] 03,Jan,26 14:28 other posts 
how and why? OR can't you answer?
By leopoldij [Ignore] 03,Jan,26 16:46 other posts 
Wrong is wrong, no matter where it happens. People suffer in other countries just like they would here, and real humans matter, even if they live far away. Breaking the law isn’t just a local thing—when one country attacks another, it’s against international law. The United Nations Charter (Article 2, paragraph 4) forbids countries from using force against another country’s independence or territory, and leaders can even be held accountable in international courts for illegal aggression. Ignoring it doesn’t make it go away. Invasions and law-breaking abroad can create wars, chaos, and refugees that reach other countries. They also make things unsafe inside the invading country—soldiers can die, civilians can be hurt, and terrorist attacks or attacks in retaliation can happen at home. These conflicts can hurt prices, jobs, and safety for everyone. Countries that follow the rules and stand for justice get more respect, stronger trade, and better alliances. Standing up for law and justice everywhere isn’t just being nice—it protects our homes, families, and future. It’s smart, it’s human, and it keeps the world safer for the U.S. and for people like us.
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Greenland is protected by international law.

If the US invades, the US, you, village the law.
By phart [Ignore] 03,Jan,26 18:38 other posts 
at least you answered in a sensible way.
Who came up with these international laws?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Jan,26 11:34 other posts 
The key legal rule is in Article 2(4) of the United Nations Charter (1945):

“All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state…”

This essentially makes aggressive war illegal, except in two cases:
- Self-defense (Article 51) if a country is attacked.
- Authorization by the UN Security Council to maintain or restore international peace.

Who “came up with” it?

These rules were drafted during the San Francisco Conference of 1945, where the UN Charter was created. The drafting involved representatives from 50 founding nations of the UN, including major powers like the U.S., U.K., Soviet Union, and China.

The idea itself wasn’t entirely new, it built on the lessons of World War II and earlier efforts like the Kellogg-Briand Pact of 1928, (primarily initiated by the US and France), which tried to outlaw war as a policy tool.

The U.S. played a major, leading role in organizing and shaping the United Nations and its charter.
The U.S., under President Franklin D. Roosevelt, was a driving force behind the idea of a post-WWII international organization to prevent future wars.
American diplomats, particularly Secretary of State Edward Stettinius Jr. and others like Alger Hiss, were heavily involved in drafting and negotiating the UN Charter.
The U.S. helped structure the Security Council and pushed for mechanisms that would prevent unilateral aggression.
By phart [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 16:41 other posts 
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U.S. could offer a better economic deal to Greenland than Denmark or Europe do

We could just buy the damn island
By CAT52! [Ignore] 10,Jan,26 09:42 other posts 
Buying requires that there’s something to sell.
By phart [Ignore] 10,Jan,26 13:22 other posts 
as I hear rich people say all the time, everything has a price, We will own greenland,"Mar A Igloo" , and they will like it. wait and see!
Just think they might get past that old wood shoe tech and actually buy a pair of Wolverines or a pair of Nikes!
By phart [Ignore] 03,Jan,26 18:58 other posts 
where was this justice when my ancestors were shot in battle and chased of the land? eh?
By leopoldij [Ignore] 04,Jan,26 07:50 other posts 
Greenland does not wish to be invaded. I'm not going to repeat it. Your country has no right to violate laws. Of course it does and it will . Even your president is a convicted felon, so he doesn't obey any laws.

The whole discussion started because I said, like every other country except the aggressor US says, Greenland does not want to be invaded. The whole world says so, and it's OBVIOUS.

I ve never met anyone who apertures aggressiveness, except you.
By phart [Ignore] 04,Jan,26 07:56 other posts 
you haven't made it out of your village yet have you? You think I am aggressive, you really need to get out in the real world. Maybe hang with some muslims that either want to convert you or kill you. Maybe hang out with some houthies that like to ambush innocent people listening to music.
I don't support "invading" Greenland and harming people, but I do support the idea of bartering with their handlers and taking over the place and making use of it's natural resources for it's own betterment and that of the world
By leopoldij [Ignore] 04,Jan,26 08:25 other posts 
Greenland does not want the help of the US. Period.
By phart [Ignore] 04,Jan,26 18:54 other posts 
How do they know they don't need help? Their gdp is only .007% of the us, they might should try our help
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Jan,26 05:46 other posts 
Stealing their country is not going to help them.
By phart [Ignore] 05,Jan,26 07:40 other posts 
it would be more of a humanitarian rescue mission..007gdp, sheesh, how do they keep the lights on?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Jan,26 09:32 other posts 
Funny, I hear Trump say NOTHING humanitarian.
The only reason I hear from him, is that there are lots of Russian and Chinese ships navigating around it. So what? There is about 2000 miles between the US and Greenland.

They keep the lights on with constant socialist support from Denmark. That's not what the US would do. Your ideology
is pull yourself up by your own bootstraps or starve.
If I had even the slightest hope that it would be better for them, I would support you having it. With Trump? Nope, nothing!
And you don't either, but you are just willing to lie for him.
Emperor Tangerine can GO FUCK HIMSELF!
By phart [Ignore] 05,Jan,26 19:18 other posts 
so you are openly admitting that greenland is a leach pulling down denmark? Similar to porter rico is a leach sucking the US's economy down the tubes. We should hand it back to the Spaniards. I am surprised that denmark hasn't figured it out that greenland is doing the same thing
By CAT52! [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 12:03 other posts 
With that reasoning then we should give Alabama, Luisiana, and Kentucky back to the French.
By phart [Ignore] 10,Jan,26 13:24 other posts 
Luisiana , eh, i wouldn't object much, that would release the US of a bunch of hurricane damage expense.Be practical, give puertoriko back to the spaniards to while you are at it
By CAT52! [Ignore] 09,Jan,26 12:01 other posts 
Phart the GDP of a country has nothing to do with whether it should be invaded and enslaved by another country. You do know that if China wanted to overrun the US they could? It would be costly and counterproductive, but, they could. How would you feel about that?
By phart [Ignore] 10,Jan,26 13:26 other posts 
I would resist and I would vote for leaders that resisted,
that is what I am trying to get leo the second hand lion to understand, if the people of greenland want to be left alone they can resist and fight back. grow a pair in other words , Besides, china has already bought a dangerous amount of the US already.
By phart [Ignore] 10,Jan,26 15:06 other posts 
Mar-A-Igloo will be the new name for Greenland.


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