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Started by CAT52! [Ignore] 14,May,20 02:51  other posts
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By leopoldij [Ignore] 07,Aug,26 20:29 other posts 
The Nobel peace prize Committee just announced that Trump will be getting a peace prize.

I'm surprised, but I respect the decision.

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Wonder what maga people will be saying
By phart [Ignore] 07,Aug,26 23:15 other posts 
I found nothing in the news about it for 2026,only stuff I found was 2025,
By leopoldij [Ignore] 08,Aug,26 02:02 other posts 
Did you click on the link on the right hand side near the top?

The actual news is there. I copy and paste below. I'm in a rush now but you can easily Google translate it.

Den norske Nobels fredspriskomité tildeler, etter anbefaling fra Kongen, lederen av Norsk Bordellforening, Velstandskirken, presidenten for Internasjonalt Samfunn av Kvinnelige Voldtektsforbrytere og de dømte forbryterne i Norge og verden, enstemmig en ekstraordinær pissepris til president Donald Trump for at han startet flere kriger enn han kan avslutte, og for å ha overbevist millioner av tapere om å religiøst falle for løgnene hans. Henrettet den femte i august 2026 og vitnet av det norske folket.
By phart [Ignore] 08,Aug,26 08:49 other posts 
That is not a legit prize, something you made up.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 08,Aug,26 11:12 other posts 
No. This is the actual Nobel Peace
Prize given to President Trump. Ananas2xLekker and CAT52!,
who both read Norwegian, can verify this.

The Nobel peace prize Committee
just announced that Trump will be
getting a peace prize.

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Den norske Nobels fredspriskomité tildeler, etter anbefaling fra Kongen, lederen av Norsk Bordellforening, Velstandskirken, presidenten for Internasjonalt Samfunn av Kvinnelige Voldtektsforbrytere og de dømte forbryterne i Norge og verden, enstemmig en ekstraordinær pissepris til president Donald Trump for at han startet flere kriger enn han kan avslutte, og for å ha overbevist millioner av tapere om å religiøst falle for løgnene hans. Henrettet den femte i august 2026 og vitnet av det norske folket.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 08,Aug,26 13:44 other posts 
Trump has been NOMINATED for the 2026 Nobel Peace Prize,
but I'm sure that they can find 'some' people who deserve it more.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 08,Aug,26 18:45 other posts 

And yet, this phart fell for it.
I thought it was 😂 hilarious!
By phart [Ignore] 08,Aug,26 22:49 other posts 
I didn't fall for anything dumbass, I went to the link you posted, found nothing about it, and said so, and you reposted the same damn link. then come up with some shit story.
Trump has done more for world peace than you have leo.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 01:20 other posts 
You fucked up
By phart [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 09:19 other posts 
ananas,would you give me some clue as to how I fucked up when all i did was said there was nothing there and leo's shit was fake?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 11:57 other posts 
In this case, I'm on your side; you couldn't believe that anyone still thinks
that Trump would deserve The Nobel peace prize either.

Honestly, my first reactions was: "NOOOOO, have they gone completely mad!"
Fortunately, a simple search saved me from giving up on the world completely.
By phart [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 13:59 other posts 
Well, I can't say all that but it would have been a interesting read had it been real, and there have been some folks that got it that others doubted deserved it. frankly even joe biden did more for world peace than leo.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 15:54 other posts 
Pope Leo only got it, because as an American he confronted Trump.
He tried to prevent a war between the US and Venezuela.
Maybe it worked, because the violence of the takeover was minimal.
Venezuela is now under control and the US is stealing their money,
but maybe the US will let them keep some of the money for their own oil.
At least, the US has relaxed some of the sanctions.
Maybe, that's what Pope Leo got out of the meetings with JD Vance.
And that's maybe worth a Nobel peace prize these days.

It obviously didn't work to prevent a war with Iran, which is THE WAR that Israel had been demanding for decades, but even Republican presidents were smart enough to not start. Didn't I predict that it would be a fucking mess?
It now looks that Iran wants to stretch this war until the next POTUS, while they keep the Strait of Hormuz closed.
Maybe you don't realize what a mess this will be for the US.
It's not that you need this oil so much, it's more that you will loose any goodwill from other countries that you might still have.

Honestly, I see one good thing coming from it; it will speed up the transition
to renewable energy. And since Trump will prevent that from happening in the US, it will put you behind even further. The billionaires will still make lots of money, don't worry about that. It will just be devastating to the rest of you.
It will be great for China, who will make all the solar panels, wind turbines
and batteries. They will be the next superpower. I hope they'll only take Taiwan.
By phart [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 16:45 other posts 
actually I was talking about our resident leo the smart ass ,not the catholic leo.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 17:32 other posts 
Why would leopoldij need to do anything for world peace?
As far as I know he doesn't have a high position in a government?

I thought you meant leopoldij at first, and then I remembered the Pope.
"Oh, he means the Pope, that makes sense." Not to you of course.
By phart [Ignore] 09,Aug,26 20:09 other posts 
Well, I will admit, leo has no moral or legal obligation to do a damn thing in society. BUT you would think as critical as he is of things and people, and high and mighty as he acts, that he would actually want to do something to help achieve world peace. But no, he just sits in his basement with drool running down his chin while black mold grows on the walls.All the while calling himself typing on his Amiga 1200. And with all that going on it is raining outside and his mother is upstairs hollering the porridge and skim milk is ready. so yea, he does nothing for world peace,
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Aug,26 04:17 other posts 
Some people are keyboard warriors (there is a lot of them here,
no exceptions for yours truly), some people join "No Kings!" protests,
or go on a boat to interfere with whale hunting or dumping toxic waste
in the ocean. Other people flood the streets to communicate their lack
of empathy or even hate for the least powerful and fortunate people
in the world. What do you consider "doing a damn thing"?

Everyone can promote world peace in a small way, but citizens can only become a big factor, if they dedicate their lives to a cause. It also requires talents that not everyone has, because the 'job' mainly requires convincing other people.

Convincing people is extraordinarily difficult because you're not just transferring information, you’re trying to change another human being's internal model of the world. We have been trying to do that for each other for years now, and I think we can agree that we didn't have great success. lol

Just having an interest in politics doesn't mean that you can 'sell' politics to other people. You can learn some skills, but there are talents and natural advantages that you cannot learn, but sometimes compensate for. I have learned some of them on the job, but I know my limitations. I also know my strengths, and what they are useful for. Basically, I'm a problem solver.
I learned this in an in-between job, where I received the most recognition.
It was when I could analyze a problem, understand its causes, and work out a solution. That experience carried into the jobs that followed, and it gradually became part of my role. Today, I solve and implement solutions, and I also help others do the same. It's only part of my work, but it's a big enough part, and one where I can really use my strengths.
It's in Big Pharma, who make money from people who suffer, but without us they would suffer worse and die. Pharmaceutical products help people lead a normal life and contribute to society. This enriches people who don't add any value, but that is a system that humanity has chosen. We could choose something better.

On a large scale, solving problems requires an organization that combines different strengths. I have the skills to execute, but execution depends on having permission, authority, resources, information, and institutional access. A person can be capable of solving a problem but, I could not be effective, without my employers system, that provides me the mandate to make relevant decision, allocate the money, change the policy, or mobilize the people required.

Unless you have the skills, attributes, mandate and time to have a big impact, as an average citizen you can affect the world on a small scale, in some or more of the following ways:

1. Be a good person to the people around you.
2. Support people who are struggling.
3. Donate money to effective causes.
4. Build an accurate, reality-based understanding of the world.
5. Vote and participate in democracy with the common good in mind.
6. Stay informed about important public issues.
7. Use your professional skills for good.
8. Make your workplace better for other people.
9. Mentor, teach, or help someone advance.
10. Strengthen your local community and social connections.
11. Volunteer a small, sustainable amount of time.
12. Reduce unnecessary consumption and waste.
13. Make major purchases environmentally and socially responsible.
14. Invest in home insulation and energy efficiency.
15. Invest in solar power and other clean energy.
16. Replace fossil-fuel systems with electric alternatives where practical.
17. Reduce dependence on private-car transport and fossil fuels.
18. Invest your savings in productive, responsible businesses and infrastructure.
19. Use your influence as a consumer, employee, citizen, and investor.
20. Share useful knowledge, skills, and opportunities with others.
21. Build a good, sustainable life rather than sacrificing yourself to the cause.
By phart [Ignore] 10,Aug,26 10:46 other posts 
this is 1 of the more civilized and useful post you have made, I hope leo , the syd 1, can read and learn. because he just seems to be a muck raker.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Aug,26 11:26 other posts 
Thanks
By Blacklab77 [Ignore] 10,Aug,26 22:06 other posts 
The Pope is a president of a country. His army is the masses of Catholics. He’s no better than any other head of state.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 12,Aug,26 11:57 other posts 
Well, maybe he didn't PERSONALLY grape children.


By phart [Ignore] 10,Aug,26 11:21 other posts 
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By Jamie [Ignore] 07,Aug,26 21:28 other posts 
only registered users can see external links oh my
By Blacklab77 [Ignore] 08,Aug,26 09:36 other posts 
Where is this?
By Jamie [Ignore] 08,Aug,26 09:49 other posts 
The uk
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By phart [Ignore] 29,Jul,26 20:54 other posts 
I can't help but wonder what secrets fauchi-felchy is holding back pleading the 5th so many times? What is he afraid to tell us? He has been pardoned,what the hell has he got to loose?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jul,26 04:55 other posts 
He is not participating in this childish perjury trap.

What do you think, that he would just tell you, if there was some massive conspiracy
going on, that your whole administration failed to uncover? Silly goose!

What was Trump hiding, when he pleaded the 5th over 440 times?

One thing that the House Republicans have been trying to do, is to abuse the broad definition of gain-of-function (GoF) research, give him no time to explain what part of that definition was applicable to the international infectious disease research collaborations and which part was not, and then try to point to some made up inconsistency and call it a lie, for which they will try to put him in jail for 5 years. Does that answer your question?
By phart [Ignore] 30,Jul,26 12:16 other posts 
not really. Until the paper work that is supposedly sealed for 75 years is opened that tells all the info about the so called vaccines, no,it will not answer my questions.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jul,26 12:54 other posts 
Nothing related to the Covid pandemic and vaccines is top secret.
Everything is already in public records or can be requested trough FOIA.

You are actually accusing Trump of hiding some conspiracy too now.
Remember that it was him who started Operation Warp Speed.
He was quite proud of that, until you all turned mental.

What are you expecting to learn, if there were those records?
If there were records that would condemn Fauci, would Trump hide it for him?

You don't have questions, you just have a chaotic feeling of distrust.
You think that I trust the government because I don't have the same questions.
It was your MAGA president and my VVD (corporate right-wing) prime minister
handling the Covid pandemic. You think that a socialist is trusting that side more than you? I was annoyed on a daily basis with how they handled it. There were fuck-ups regularly. But if there was some global conspiracy going on, we first need to establish
A GOAL!!! I have heard multiple ridiculous goals from your side, that ALL do not make sense with what happened. You have no idea about a goal either, you just want to believe that something extremely evil was going on. Well, if there was, they were fortunately incredibly incompetent, because the world is basically back to how it was.

The only evil that was achieved is a fucking huge transfer of wealth from the taxpayers
to the wealthy, who got massive bailouts from our right-wing governments.
But they don't need a pandemic for that and you like that, so why are you complaining?
By phart [Ignore] 30,Jul,26 14:47 other posts 
Well, something aint right, to many folks I knew are dead now shortly after them damn shots, and I understand there could fault most anywhere,but it is time to settle it and get the best info out there into the living rooms of the US and if you ever wanted to fix this distrust in government,now is the time to do it
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jul,26 16:06 other posts 
How many, how shortly. I think you're suffering from massive confirmation bias.

There can be something wrong with any product that you put in your body. A single can of beans can kill you with botulism, meat can contain deadly parasites, there is an outbreak of Cyclospora parasites right now. 423 people have been hospitalized. And vaccines can indeed contain a contamination or some unlucky bastard can have an allergic reaction. Still, overall vaccines have massively reduced the deaths of infectious diseases. You only still see polio in the bible belt or old people who had it as a child. Many diseases were practically wiped out, but some are now coming back because of vaccine fears.

That fear is not all caused by the government. The media was spreading doubt 24/7, by "just asking questions". Sorry to tell you, but those questions were fucking ignorant or blatant misinformation, for political reasons.

If you haven't stopped taking all pharmaceutical products, you are accepting the same risk of death every day, that you would have had once by getting vaccinated. Most pharmaceuticals have been tested less extensively than the vaccines. Some pharmaceuticals have so many side effects that it is debatable whether their benefits outweigh their risks. All the focus is on vaccines, while they have been proven to be very safe and effective, because the only thing they do is train the immune system. That's much less impact than lowering blood pressure, suppressing inflammation,
or killing bacteria.
You were accepting a much higher risk from the virus itself, because you are not a young, healthy guy. The morgue was full of guys like you, who were afraid of the 'jab'. There were enough guys of my age and weight dying too, so that's why I was careful to not get it. After I was fully vaccinated, I was feeling relieved. Not because I trusted the vaccines from the start, but because many old people got it before me and lived.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 31,Jul,26 08:53 other posts 
Phart, they were MAGA Republicans.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 31,Jul,26 12:15 other posts 
Can you believe that the maga religionists are worried about Faucu but they never ever say anything about their supreme leader's blatant crimes?
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Aug,26 12:17 other posts 
They process everything through very simple patterns:

Complex crisis → uncertainty and fear → simple explanation → identifiable enemy → simple solution

If you understand multiple interacting factors, you see:

Virus biology + human behavior + public health capacity + healthcare systems + communication + economics + political decisions + social trust → pandemic outcomes

I have yet to see anything that leads me to believe that Fauci was doing anything nefarious, other then trying to manage stupid people, by not being fully candid
about everything, all the time.

As a result, they accuse him of killing millions of people, while simultaneously
calling Covid "just a cold". However, the recent charades are just a distraction.
They scored very well with fearmongering, so this is their attempt to regain support.
By dgraff [Ignore] 06,Aug,26 09:47 other posts 
Deport him we don’t need a guy like fishy fauchi around
By CAT52! [Ignore] 06,Aug,26 10:51 other posts 
He’s a native born American. Where do we deport him to? The Rocky Mountains?
By phart [Ignore] 06,Aug,26 14:54 other posts 
Like a revenuer, he probably would never come back down the mountain.
By dgraff [Ignore] 06,Aug,26 18:28 other posts 
Works for me
Your own president praised him, but now your cult says "Attack him!"
so you do, without having the slightest idea why.
Did you always want to be a DOG?
By dgraff [Ignore] 07,Aug,26 06:22 other posts 
That was before the democrats got a hold of him and twisted his mind around they told him it was ok to lie and they signed him a life long pardon to bad it was in auto pen
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,Aug,26 07:16 other posts 
There are about 6 different topics that he supposedly lied about. In none of these cases did he clearly lie.

March 2020 masks: Incomplete / strategically framed
PPE shortage rationale: Not fully candid initially
Wuhan/gain-of-function: Interpreted consistently with the narrow definition
6-foot rule: Weakly evidenced / arbitrary, but easy to remember
Lab-leak origins: Said that there was no reason to suspect intent
“I am the science”: Rhetorical overreach

It's a stupid inefficient practice, but it seems that hundreds or even thousands of forms for standard appropriations, staff assignments and other low level documents are asking for a director's signature, while that is practically nonsense. It seems that your government agencies have used auto pens a lot. That's mostly your government's inability to solve issues. A mechanical pen device that's rare in my country.
Some government agencies use pre-printed signatures or stamps or digital signatures. Not everything has to be signed by a director, but sometimes they use
the signature of the person who is leading the department, without actually requiring authorization. It's a common long-established practice in the US, because you have
a more hierarchical society. Individual officeholders care about their signature,
as the visible symbol of authority.


By leopoldij [Ignore] 25,Jul,26 10:32 other posts 
Hello CAT52!
By CAT52! [Ignore] 30,Jul,26 16:15 other posts 
Hey Leo
By leopoldij [Ignore] 30,Jul,26 22:39 other posts 
Hi hi hi


By leopoldij [Ignore] 25,Jul,26 10:33 other posts 
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 08:11 other posts 
Hi leopoldij, how are you doing?
By leopoldij [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 08:57 other posts 
Watching trump increase tariffs....
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 09:29 other posts 
Republicans used to be free trade absolutists. Look at em now.
Tariffs can be a useful tool, if you use them intelligently, but....
By leopoldij [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 10:05 other posts 
Any intelligence has been replaced by crookedness
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 10:32 other posts 
True, but if self-dealing was the only goal, they would not make such incredibly stupid choices. That would hurt their self-dealing long-term.

Their main goal is vandalism. They are a movement that believes government is broken, attacks and weakens its institutions, replaces expertise with loyalty,
and then points to the resulting dysfunction as proof that government never worked.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 12:33 other posts 
Very astute observation: they'll
bring collapse and then claim
that it's "the others" who did it.
They could even orchestrate a
fatal event to "prove" their point.

But to what benefit? Ultimately,
it's their self-benefit.
They want to enrich themselves by
taking advantage of the concept
of invincible presidency and the
fact that none of their minions
will ever question their "ethics".
They've achieved an almost total
religious adherence to them.

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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 13:29 other posts 
They want the United States to be carved up by billionaires, who all own and rule their piece of the land and people, with the Trump family as the ruling dynasty.
The lord-kings will be ruling their serfs from their castles, but instead of knights, they'll control the people with robots. People will be working 12 hours per day,
7 days per week, from age 10, for starvation wages, and live in small apartments owned by their lord-king. The fairest daughters of the serfs will be taken to serve
the lord-king's perverse desires, from the age of 10 too. They will also breed his 50 children, who will all be competing for their father's succession, by showing who can manage the sweatshops (for the jobs that robots are too expensive for) the most ruthlessly. This is not a fantasy, this is exactly what you get, if you follow the trends that they have set out.
By phart [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 13:46 other posts 
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Since you folks like graphs,Trump didn't dig the hole,he inherited it.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 16:36 other posts 
It was not Biden's inflation, it was COVID INFLATION. IT WAS GLOBAL.
Before Covid hit, Trump's economy was already cooling down.
Then he created a massive crisis, by bungling Covid response.
Biden inherited that crisis, but he turned it around, better than other countries.

Even if prices for some things will come down, Trump's stupidity is turning
people's overall cost of living into a complete crisis.

If Trump inherited anything from Biden, he could have easily changed it,
because he controls the house, the senate, and the supreme court.
Biden didn't, which means that he had to deal with your side obstructing
his every move, even when he wanted to introduce very strict immigration laws.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 17:32 other posts 
I mentioned the phrase "religious adherence" above. As you see, it's pointless to try to argue rationally with any magaidiot. This is the greatest achievement of trump and co.
By phart [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 17:57 other posts 
Yea,sure. Try getting a liberal to discuss causes and blame without taking responsibility for the wrong doing of their side. biden had all the chance in the world to force those deadly shots on all of us,tear down walls at the border and etc,but lucky for America,there are a few people willing to stop it
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jul,26 09:24 other posts 
"those deadly shots" I took 3, and I'm still alive.
You're self-programming your brain with nonsense.
That is why leo says that it's pointless to try to argue rationally with you.

Even if your worst assumptions are true, they are still not "deadly shots".
That would mean that we would have lost 5.6 billion people worldwide,
myself and everyone I know (except my brother in law) included.

No one told me something like: "Do you know who died directly after getting the shot? The father of Mark from IT.". Why not? Because, besides my brother in law, I'm hanging around with people who can rationally assess these claims. Even my brother in law didn't know anyone personally who died. He told me about dozens
of unsubstantiated claims from his friend's friends; which are useless rumors.
That's what ALL OF YOU have; nothing but useless rumors.

Your side controls all the institutions now, and you STILL got nothing.
Sure, they make theater investigating Fauci, but that's it.
So, you either have to admit that you're wrong or that your side is the most
useless bunch ever. Democrats would have had piles of evidence by now.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 26,Jul,26 20:32 other posts 
I'm speaking to you, not to
religious idiots.

Take a look at this.
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Have tariffs worked?
No.
They were illegal.
American suckers are now paying
more because of tariffs.

Has trump become richer though?
Yes.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 28,Jul,26 05:33 other posts 
"Have tariffs worked?"
That depends on the goal. If his goal is to tax the lower and middle class more, to compensate for the billionaire tax-cuts, then it is the easiest thing that he could do.
If the goal is to cause chaos on the stock-market, that your family and friends can use to enrich themselves, than it is a devious plan. I'm sure that he didn't think of it himself, because he's not smart enough for that.

Trump doesn't give a fuck about anything being 'illegal'. He has been getting away with crimes all of his life. At worst he had to pay some fines. If you own the DOJ,
the FBI and the supreme court, and all your senators and governors are partisan loyalists, then nothing is 'illegal' anymore.


By #623135 22,Jun,21 10:16
Phart posted
So they are already having issues with charging electric cars?
Sheesh,what about in 5 years? The power company are not permited to build new power plants.Solar and wind are going to be important to keep the grid up. But that didn't work in Texas did it?
They make a lot of energy in Texas,but how many folks died over the winter this past 1?

Angel1227!
So a private, for profit, company did not plan on a hard winter so their production of electricity was not sufficient? And this utility, regulated by the states, failed to meet the demands? This state (Texas) governed by Repukers was not regulated correctly so this company spent less on production and got richer because of it? This sounds very much like a Repuker business idea.
By phart [Ignore] 22,Jun,21 22:13 other posts 
Regulation? Hahaha,look at californicated, that is what happens when you over regulate. No one can trim trees off the lines, the power company has to cut power off in high winds,that is the result of Liberal-democrat regulation. Hug the trees,to hell with the humans.
I fault the power companys in texas to a point but I also fault the citizens for lack of preparedness.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,Jun,21 08:10 other posts 
The power companies in Texas are now have trouble providing enough power for air-conditioning. The problem in the winter were not a fluke. It happens again only months later. Prices for power skyrocketed again. Many people again received electric bills for thousands of dollars. Texas' power market is not a good example of 'good' deregulation.

Face it, sometimes you need regulation, especially for basic facilities like power.
By #623135 23,Jun,21 12:19
Did I mention California? Was this the subject of the conversation? This is about Texas and it’s power company. Phart reply to this or open another thread.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Jun,21 12:27 other posts 
I posted a link to a news report about california having issues with electric car charging,
And I then mentioned the issues in texas with electricity.
What everyone is missing here is the fact there is NOT enough electricity being produced to meet CURRENT demand.As Ananas has indicated.So imagine if you will,5-10 years from now,when there is GREATER demand? What a mess we are in for.
Regulation is not the solution. that is how you GOT TO THIS POINT. To many regulations preventing new power plants being built and trying to snuff out coal,a effective energy source.
By #623135 23,Jun,21 16:34
Phart do you think power companies sat down in the 1920’s and said, “We are building for the future so, in 1945, we stop because there’ll be too many regulations to conduct business”?
You think that if they are running short they won’t try to catch up? The regulations you protest are there to protect the people and the environment. But, knowing how you think, fuck that. Let coal continue to pollute. We’ll be dead by the time our grandkids die of poisoned air.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Jun,21 19:40 other posts 
newest nuclear power plant started in 2016.
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Only 2 under construction according to this chart.
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The US shut down how many? lets see
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Now, we shut down 39 and we are building 2. Does that sound like regulations are helping any? 2, there are 50 states. So state regulation is not changing anything where it may be either.
If you want coal gone,you need to have a replacement handy before hand.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 02:17 other posts 
Maybe those old reactors have become very dangerous over time and/or they are not as efficient as the new ones.
Nuclear power is not the solution. There are 80 sites in the United States where nuclear waste is stored. Some of it is stored temporary in a location that is not safe long term. The best uranium sites are already running out and it's getting ever more expensive to mine the stuff.

That waste has to be looked after for the next 20,000 to 1M years, before it's safe. Humanity probably kills itself before that or there might be a few survivors that don't know how to keep the waste safe and radiation will finish them off. But who cares, right?

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Like nuclear is the only alternative to coal.
By phart [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 09:18 other posts 
Well Ananas, at least we have some common ground, I h@te nuclear and wish people would have enough sense to study other ideas.
I just used nuclear here because MOST tree huggers-liberals,think nuclear is the answer.And it has Ooodles of issues that take Many years to deal with.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 12:27 other posts 
Glad we agree

Actually, I even prefer fossil fuels over nuclear, even though I'm a tree hugger-liberal. Nuclear might be a bit better on carbon emissions when the reactor is built, but building new ones creates so much emissions, it takes 20 years to recover.
Another problem is that nuclear reactors take ages to start up and stop again, which is not practical as backup for solar and wind. Fossil fuels are at least needed until we have enough geothermal, hydro (incl. wave), biofuel, biogas, hydrogen, chemical storage (formic acid), thermal energy storage, battery storage and whatever I forgot or they think up next.

Then there is off-course the waste and the risk.
By #623135 24,Jun,21 09:43
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By phart [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 11:47 other posts 
qoute "Reducing the overall demand for electricity makes it easier for renewables like solar and wind to fill the gap, and targeted projects can reduce demand on the grid at peak times."

Eh so more electric cars will reduce demand?
I know you are not a engineer,but even you should be able to figure out that can't work.
By #623135 24,Jun,21 12:29
I don't pretend to be an engineer, but, I do know electric vehicles will not burn fossil fuels and pollute. If (and it looks like they are) the local electric companies can't handle the load they will have to upgrade. Eventually they will reach parity. Again, I say to you, if a problem exists, there will have to be an adjustment. Electric companies are allowed by government to be monopolies, but, they can loose it all if they can't provide proper service.
Coal is pretty much done as an industry. Not just because of regulations, but because investors and insurers are now backing away. If we all switch to electric cars soon, there's definitely a challenge to provide that electricity, but the overall power consumption will go down. Electric cars are more efficient. Now, I'm not talking about Tesla's that do 0 to 60 in 2 s and are comparable to a Porsche, but sensible electric cars that are appearing now.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 10:57 other posts 
It's nice to see that the world is moving towards new energy solutions, such as electric cars. We can't afford burning fossil fuels any longer. I'm glad to see that everyone agrees on that. Perhaps Saudi Arabia will be unhappy, but that country is a militant dictatorship with
groas violations of human rights, so the US or Europe don't need them as an ally.
By phart [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 11:50 other posts 
Um, who do you think backed the loans for the solar farms around here? Saudi Arabia.
If they can't sell us oil ,they will make their money on interest from loans.
We could afford to use fossil fuels if we could finish our pipelines and drill in otherwise useless lands like up north in alaska where there is nothing but woods.
The alaskan pipeline built long ago,was supposed to be such a wildlife disaster,ha,the animals love it,it is warm near the pipeline.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 12:00 other posts 
Glad you agree.
By #623135 24,Jun,21 12:30
Fossil fuels promote pollution. Doesn't that get through your head?
By phart [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 16:47 other posts 
Eh yea,some,but nuclear wipes out MILES of earth for 100's of years. Check out Chernobyl sometime.

California has MILES of coast line,Why are they not looking into this tech?
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Instead of wasting all that coast line for half naked people to lay around and spread covid,there could be power plants there!
NO pollution! No noise that is not already there,and erosion control! WOW,
Kansas,could be using wind and solar to help of course.
Another non polluting power source,
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By #623135 24,Jun,21 21:05
Every time I think I’ve heard all your dippy theories, you come up with a new one.
By phart [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 22:05 other posts 
Same here! No theorys posted, those are technology's already being tested and shown to work,perhaps just not as efficient as others.
I actually use some old equipment that is electric that was made way back before it was "cool" So I research alternative energy sources and what not for that reason. If I lived near a active stream,you better believe there would be a water wheel turning a old Gm alternator to charge back up batterys.
When I build a green house,yep,I will use geothermal to help with temp control.
By #610414 25,Jun,21 07:37
If I lived next to a moving stream, I, too, would use it for power, however, you would need several deep discharged batteries and a back up energy system in case you deplete your batteries too fast. I would also go upstream a few hundred yards and divert some of the water through pipes to have energy free house water.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Jun,21 12:15 other posts 
Just some old car batteries are better than nothing. It's free energy.
Every bit you can use of it is better than none at all.
That sound very cool. I would love to do some tinkering like that.

Here are some fun do-it-yourself builds on YouTube.
I had seen them before and it made me regret living next to a stationary ditch.
Maybe there are some ideas you can use:
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By phart [Ignore] 25,Jun,21 13:32 other posts 
the third link i watched the whole thing, very interesting,will get the other 2 tonight.
I DO NOT quite understand the amount of AMPS he is getting from that washing machine motor.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Jun,21 05:46 other posts 
Here they say 600W should be possible. A washing machine motor will use 400 to 1300 watts. They might not be as efficient to generate the same amount, but can still do the job pretty well, as it seams and should be very easy to obtain.

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By #623135 28,Jun,21 17:51
Phart
How many Chernobyl’s do you know? One in the states, one in Japan, and one in Russia. Here, in Miami-Dade county, FP&L has been operating the local one over 50 yrs. Same in other cities around the state. And no pollution
By phart [Ignore] 28,Jun,21 18:03 other posts 
3 mile island here in the US. Prompted a nation wide process of adding new cooling systems.1 of my neighbors worked on the crew that went around building it. Made a fortune doing it.

You don't hear about the Mcquire plant here in NC getting to hot but it did a few years ago. The tree huggers were angry because a type of fish was dieing from getting caught in the cooling system water.So they put a screen over the intake. Worked fine for a while. Until the screen clogged up with little fishes.A employee told me about it.

Here is a long list of potential accidents and how to deal with them
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Yea,I know,I got dizzy after 10 minutes of readin!

I can't see a coal plant being any where near as dangerous to operate
By #623135 29,Jun,21 08:16
Sometimes it’s not what you can see but what you can’t
So what's your point? Just let any company kill whatever part of nature is in their way, because US companies are completely inadequate in solving any problem ever?
They can't even take in water, without sucking up all the fishes
By #623135 29,Jun,21 09:23
Ananas2xlekker my point is that all companies have a responsibility to protect the environment. People are part of the environment. In this case, the “sucking up of all the fishes” is not because the plant is nuclear. Yes, the reactors do need cooling. Cooling canals and reservoirs are needed. In this case, some knucklehead got the idea to put a screen on the pickup line. Duh, a cheap fuckup because of a cheap fix. Seems to me that an industry that can build nuclear reactors to make electricity should be able to prevent “little fishies” from clogging the intake of cooling water. Spent nuclear fuel rods are a problem. Finding a location to store them safely is still a problem and hopefully it better be resolved soon.

According to the Rainforest Action Network. For decades, climate change has been a global crisis that will impact every single person and living being on this planet. Now, according to the latest UN climate report, we have less than 10 years to cut global emissions in half.

Burning fossil fuels isn’t just bad for the climate, these industries also violate countless fundamental human rights. From frontline communities facing a fossil fuel pipeline on their land to Indigenous people facing fires in the Amazon to worker rights violations on palm oil plantations, the industries fueling climate change are also fueling injustice.

Coal, tar sands, and fracked gas show everything that’s wrong within the fossil fuel industry. These extraction practices are harming people and planet every day, and big banks are fueling this destruction of the planet and negligence of life.

So what’s so bad about coal, tar sands, and fracked gas? Basically everything, from start to the finish these fossil fuels are disastrous. For decades, climate change has been a global crisis that will impact every single person and living being on this planet. Now, according to the latest UN climate report, we have less than 10 years to cut global emissions in half.

Burning fossil fuels isn’t just bad for the climate, these industries also violate countless fundamental human rights. From frontline communities facing a fossil fuel pipeline on their land to Indigenous people facing fires in the Amazon to worker rights violations on palm oil plantations, the industries fueling climate change are also fueling injustice.

Coal, tar sands, and fracked gas show everything that’s wrong within the fossil fuel industry. These extraction practices are harming people and planet every day, and big banks are fueling this destruction of the planet and negligence of life.

So what’s so bad about coal, tar sands, and fracked gas? Basically everything, from start to the finish these fossil fuels are disastrous.

Like I said, “What you don’t see can be more dangerous.”
By phart [Ignore] 29,Jun,21 10:33 other posts 
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chernobyl didn just happen and stop.It is still happening today.

Smog will go away at some point.
coal smoke can be filtered.Try filtering radiaton.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Jun,21 13:39 other posts 
Managing the Chernobyl disaster has probably already cost more energy than several nuclear reactors will produce in their lifetime. The exclusion zone of Chernobyl; 2600 km², if filled with solar panels, would produce 234 TWh/year. That's about twice the whole electricity consumption of The Netherlands.

So we only would need half that exclusion zone filled with solar panels
and that would cost about 78 Billion Euro's. That would raise our national debt from 56.3% of GDP to 66.2% of GDP.
Jobs for all our unemployed people will pull that debt down soon enough.
By #623135 30,Jun,21 08:42
You forget that the disaster in Chernobyl happened to a nuclear electric plant that would never be built in the US. According to the Atomic Energy Commission, this type of reactor was ver vulnerable to the disaster. The USSR didn’t care. Like the Chinese, they wanted results.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jun,21 09:54 other posts 
How about Fukushima?
Accidents happen. Even if the chance is 1:1M (historically proven it's much higher), when you multiply that risk by the number of nuclear power plants required, something catastrophic will happen at some point. Such catastrophes could cost more than the complete energy transition.
That's not worth it, because nuclear power is only a temporary solution, because the uranium will run out at some point. It's already becoming more and more expensive to mine the stuff.

Even if all those problems didn't exist, it still takes 10 years before any nuclear power plant has compensates his own build. But it first takes 10 years to build any. Then after 20 years, they are just as CO2 effecient as wind and solar. That's too late. We need to lower CO2 emissions ASAP.

Anyone with some money to spare can invest in their own solar panels,
lower their costs and be less dependent on power companies.
It's nice to have air-conditioning in a heat wave, when the government
is telling you not to use power or you can't afford it when power companies are charging you 100x the normal rate.

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By #623135 30,Jun,21 10:08
Fukushima’s disaster included the meltdown but IT WAS THE SUNAMI THAT CAUSED IT AND MOST OF THE DEVASTATION of that city. Last I’ve checked there are no dinamices happening in Kansas. I will give you this one. In Californicate state they’ve built one on the fault line. Engineer had too much Blow.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jun,21 11:06 other posts 
Isn't Kansas part of Tornado Alley?
There are al sorts of natural disasters, but it can also be a terrorist attack or a hacker or just basic human error.
By #623135 30,Jun,21 11:21
Yes, it is but you can’t compare a wind storm, even a tornado, to a sunami. Our nuclear plant in Turkey Point went through several hurricanes . Hurricanes produce tornados inside the storm. Hurricane Andrews destroyed large swaths out of the county. Huge communities disappeared. The Turkey Point plan took it in stride.
BTW, instead of Kansas I could have picked West Virginia
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As far as anything else, we have to trust security will prevail. Every thing is a crapshoot. Hopefully we don’t roll snake eyes,
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jun,21 12:54 other posts 
Or just choose all the many alternatives and don't build any new nuclear power plants. Why are you such a proponent of nuclear energy? What do you consider the advantage over truly sustainable energy technologies?
By #623135 30,Jun,21 13:30
Except for solar energies nuclear is the most reliable. I guess I’m like a Trump supporter but with nuclear capability--------------------------------------- added after 11

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I was talking to phart.
I also don't like nuclear energy and my arguments are in line with the science on climate change. That uranium has to be mined, which also emits CO2.
A nuclear power plant takes a lot of energy to be built and maintained.
Then afterwards we have to keep the waste safe for the next 20,000 years.
On the short term nuclear is about as energy/CO2 efficient as wind power and even less than solar. In the long term nuclear has a horrible energy/CO2 efficiency, because keeping the waste safe also costs energy. Also, building nuclear power plants takes a long time and lots of materials. It takes about 10 years before a nuclear power plant compensates his own build. That's about 1-1.5 years for wind energy and 2 years for solar. However solar is cheaper
on maintenance.

Other than that, I agree with most of what you said.

All energy technology costs money, materials, energy and land to build and maintain. All energy technology has downsides like pollution, mineral shortages, exploitation of people and CO2 emissions. We just need to stop with the worst energy technologies first and expand on the best ones the most.

It doesn't require completely changing our life or have impact on the quality of our life. However climate change already impacts our life and it will only get worse. We can either choose to accept some changes now and prevent total catastrophe later or we can deny the truth until catastrophe proves us wrong.
By #623135 29,Jun,21 15:43
I wish we went back to the pre 1860’s. We really don’t need electricity. Natural gas was good enough to live and we don’t need TV or cars.


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