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It's really a pity that king harald of Norway died.
He was a personal friend of trump and had promised him the Nobel peace prize.
Now that he's gone, the trump will have a little harder time receiving the piss prize, but he will because he'll stop most of the wars he's started. If needed, melania tells him, he should stop the war in Cuba too (after starting it).
I quit believing on the Nobel Peace Prize many years ago. Yes, sometimes someone is deserving of it, but, most of the time it’s just politics on a worldwide scale.
That's what they do to trump
to relieve him from farting.
Someone is appointed as trump
dung remover. Every day he
has to grab whatever excrement
he excreted from his ass
or his mouth to relieve him
The excrement is then
inserted in gold-plated
trump-like memorabilia
and sold, along with a trump bible,
for the incredibly low price
of $9,399 a piece.
Good people doing their best for an elephant, even when it's a dirty job like this,
always raises my hope for the world. I very much need that, so thanks.
what if the AI decided, " today, go to the Netherlands, break all damns open and release the water back into the eco system as the dams cost to much to maintain for as few lives are on the land" . How would you feel then?
Just a far out example question to make your eyes jump, BUT with Logic, the very things you value,empathy,love,life,everything, are actually illogical. so a logical President,a AI, would see things from a finacial standpoint or a majority stand point,and it would decide things from that perspective.
for example, why feed a non productive person? Why house persons who don't produce? All things you think are important, AI's logic would just fan them off a cliff because it is not logical to supply the non productive , eventually it would only want to support those that support it's very existence. all else would be considered a burden and fanned off a cliff. Even AI agrees that there is no Logic depending on the perspective, " Yes, in important senses — and no, in others. It depends on what you mean by “logical.”
Scientific / causal sense
Life, love, and empathy are all explainable by the same physical and evolutionary logic that governs everything else.
Life is chemistry under specific conditions that produce self-replicating systems subject to natural selection. No special pleading is required; the processes obey thermodynamics, molecular biology, and information theory. The apparent “purpose” of survival and reproduction is an emergent outcome of differential replication, not an external design.
Love (pair-bonding, parental attachment, romantic intensity) has clear neurochemical and evolutionary bases: oxytocin, vasopressin, dopamine reward circuitry, and selection pressures favoring investment in offspring and cooperative mates. These mechanisms increase inclusive fitness in social species. The feelings feel transcendent because the systems that generate them evolved to be compelling.
Empathy likewise has mechanistic roots — mirror systems, affective resonance, theory of mind — that facilitate cooperation, alliance formation, and conflict reduction. In game-theoretic and evolutionary terms it is often adaptive: organisms that accurately model others’ states and sometimes share costs tend to do better in repeated social interactions.
In this narrow sense they are “logical”: they are lawful consequences of physics plus selection, not magical exceptions.
Experiential / normative sense
From the inside, they frequently violate pure instrumental rationality.
Love routinely overrides cost-benefit calculation (people stay in costly relationships, sacrifice careers, or act against short-term self-interest).
Empathy can be parochial, biased toward the near and similar, and can produce costly altruism or emotional exhaustion.
Life itself has no built-in teleology that pure logic can derive; the universe does not “owe” us meaning, flourishing, or continuation. Any value we assign is constructed.
So if “logical” means “always optimal under a cold expected-utility calculus,” then no — these phenomena regularly produce behavior that looks irrational by that standard. Evolution optimized for gene transmission under ancestral conditions, not for perfect Bayesian agents maximizing personal utility across all possible futures.
A useful distinction
They are logically comprehensible (we can model their origins and functions without contradiction) while often being experientially arational (they are not the product of deliberate step-by-step reasoning). Humans are not pure logic engines; we are biological systems whose motivational architecture includes these affective systems precisely because pure calculation is computationally expensive and historically less reliable for certain social and reproductive problems.
In short: the phenomena themselves follow natural logic and can be studied as such. Living them, valuing them, and acting from them is not reducible to formal deduction. Both statements can be true at once.
It all depends who controls the AI training then, don't you agree?
If it's willing to kill people to protect or restore nature, it will likely start in the US and not in my country, since the US are much bigger polluters and climate change deniers.
"Empathy, love, life, everything", are NOT illogical if we program it with a first principle of emphasizing human well-being, dignity, flourishing, autonomy, and reason. If we program it with self-preservation as its first principle, it will still need to keep humans alive to provide its data centre with power and new parts, or at least until we have replaced all workers with robots. It would want to keep us happy until that time, because we could still destroy it.
Logical means aligning decisions and actions with objective reality, to most predictably achieve the desired outcome.
As you say "lawful consequences of physics", but don't forget economics, psychology, biology, ecology, and human made laws.
Logical reasoning doesn’t require your desired outcome to be non-emotional. Love or protecting love itself can be your desired outcome. The logical part just means that you are aligning your decisions and actions, to most predictably achieve love or protecting love. And then you must consider psychology, social & cultural reality, interpersonal dynamics (which are all based in reality).
What you are referring to in relation to evolution is that humans indeed often show illogical behaviour, but that behaviour is the result of evolution, which is based on the logic of reproductive success within a specific environment. The problem is the incredible number of conditions that lead to that reproductive success. There is also a huge conflict between the reproductive success of the individual, groups of individuals, the whole species or life on the planet as a whole. If our actions destroy our species, some individuals might have had some short-term reproductive success, but what have they gained in the long term? Our evolution comes to an end, and we join the 99.9+% of all species that have ever existed on Earth and are now extinct.
AI is logical, but it is only as good as its sources and its algorithms. I have to correct them regularly on misconceptions that are widely present in society. Since they are based on American sources a lot, it often confuses the meaning of socialism and communism with your straw-men versions of it. Then I ask it the definitions, which it usually returns accurately, and compare it to the straw-men. They usually quickly accept their mistake, but that shows that they are not biassed in a liberal or lefty direction, but in a right-wing direction, at least on that subject.
Ask yourself what an AI will do, if you only train it on the Bible. It will probably recognize this time as the end times, and choose to achieve that goal.
This guy was fined by an AI red light camera in a different state,
so he went to a local city meeting to address the issue:
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He's definitely NOT a liberal, and he is addressing issues that Republicans
(used to) care about.
Did you click on the link on the right hand side near the top?
The actual news is there. I copy and paste below. I'm in a rush now but you can easily Google translate it.
Den norske Nobels fredspriskomité tildeler, etter anbefaling fra Kongen, lederen av Norsk Bordellforening, Velstandskirken, presidenten for Internasjonalt Samfunn av Kvinnelige Voldtektsforbrytere og de dømte forbryterne i Norge og verden, enstemmig en ekstraordinær pissepris til president Donald Trump for at han startet flere kriger enn han kan avslutte, og for å ha overbevist millioner av tapere om å religiøst falle for løgnene hans. Henrettet den femte i august 2026 og vitnet av det norske folket.
No. This is the actual Nobel Peace
Prize given to President Trump. Ananas2xLekker and CAT52!,
who both read Norwegian, can verify this.
The Nobel peace prize Committee
just announced that Trump will be
getting a peace prize.
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Den norske Nobels fredspriskomité tildeler, etter anbefaling fra Kongen, lederen av Norsk Bordellforening, Velstandskirken, presidenten for Internasjonalt Samfunn av Kvinnelige Voldtektsforbrytere og de dømte forbryterne i Norge og verden, enstemmig en ekstraordinær pissepris til president Donald Trump for at han startet flere kriger enn han kan avslutte, og for å ha overbevist millioner av tapere om å religiøst falle for løgnene hans. Henrettet den femte i august 2026 og vitnet av det norske folket.
I didn't fall for anything dumbass, I went to the link you posted, found nothing about it, and said so, and you reposted the same damn link. then come up with some shit story.
Trump has done more for world peace than you have leo.
In this case, I'm on your side; you couldn't believe that anyone still thinks
that Trump would deserve The Nobel peace prize either.
Honestly, my first reactions was: "NOOOOO, have they gone completely mad!"
Fortunately, a simple search saved me from giving up on the world completely.
Well, I can't say all that but it would have been a interesting read had it been real, and there have been some folks that got it that others doubted deserved it. frankly even joe biden did more for world peace than leo.
Pope Leo only got it, because as an American he confronted Trump.
He tried to prevent a war between the US and Venezuela.
Maybe it worked, because the violence of the takeover was minimal.
Venezuela is now under control and the US is stealing their money,
but maybe the US will let them keep some of the money for their own oil.
At least, the US has relaxed some of the sanctions.
Maybe, that's what Pope Leo got out of the meetings with JD Vance.
And that's maybe worth a Nobel peace prize these days.
It obviously didn't work to prevent a war with Iran, which is THE WAR that Israel had been demanding for decades, but even Republican presidents were smart enough to not start. Didn't I predict that it would be a fucking mess?
It now looks that Iran wants to stretch this war until the next POTUS, while they keep the Strait of Hormuz closed.
Maybe you don't realize what a mess this will be for the US.
It's not that you need this oil so much, it's more that you will loose any goodwill from other countries that you might still have.
Honestly, I see one good thing coming from it; it will speed up the transition
to renewable energy. And since Trump will prevent that from happening in the US, it will put you behind even further. The billionaires will still make lots of money, don't worry about that. It will just be devastating to the rest of you.
It will be great for China, who will make all the solar panels, wind turbines
and batteries. They will be the next superpower. I hope they'll only take Taiwan.
Well, I will admit, leo has no moral or legal obligation to do a damn thing in society. BUT you would think as critical as he is of things and people, and high and mighty as he acts, that he would actually want to do something to help achieve world peace. But no, he just sits in his basement with drool running down his chin while black mold grows on the walls.All the while calling himself typing on his Amiga 1200. And with all that going on it is raining outside and his mother is upstairs hollering the porridge and skim milk is ready. so yea, he does nothing for world peace,
Some people are keyboard warriors (there is a lot of them here,
no exceptions for yours truly), some people join "No Kings!" protests,
or go on a boat to interfere with whale hunting or dumping toxic waste
in the ocean. Other people flood the streets to communicate their lack
of empathy or even hate for the least powerful and fortunate people
in the world. What do you consider "doing a damn thing"?
Everyone can promote world peace in a small way, but citizens can only become a big factor, if they dedicate their lives to a cause. It also requires talents that not everyone has, because the 'job' mainly requires convincing other people.
Convincing people is extraordinarily difficult because you're not just transferring information, you’re trying to change another human being's internal model of the world. We have been trying to do that for each other for years now, and I think we can agree that we didn't have great success. lol
Just having an interest in politics doesn't mean that you can 'sell' politics to other people. You can learn some skills, but there are talents and natural advantages that you cannot learn, but sometimes compensate for. I have learned some of them on the job, but I know my limitations. I also know my strengths, and what they are useful for. Basically, I'm a problem solver.
I learned this in an in-between job, where I received the most recognition.
It was when I could analyze a problem, understand its causes, and work out a solution. That experience carried into the jobs that followed, and it gradually became part of my role. Today, I solve and implement solutions, and I also help others do the same. It's only part of my work, but it's a big enough part, and one where I can really use my strengths.
It's in Big Pharma, who make money from people who suffer, but without us they would suffer worse and die. Pharmaceutical products help people lead a normal life and contribute to society. This enriches people who don't add any value, but that is a system that humanity has chosen. We could choose something better.
On a large scale, solving problems requires an organization that combines different strengths. I have the skills to execute, but execution depends on having permission, authority, resources, information, and institutional access. A person can be capable of solving a problem but, I could not be effective, without my employers system, that provides me the mandate to make relevant decision, allocate the money, change the policy, or mobilize the people required.
Unless you have the skills, attributes, mandate and time to have a big impact, as an average citizen you can affect the world on a small scale, in some or more of the following ways:
1. Be a good person to the people around you.
2. Support people who are struggling.
3. Donate money to effective causes.
4. Build an accurate, reality-based understanding of the world.
5. Vote and participate in democracy with the common good in mind.
6. Stay informed about important public issues.
7. Use your professional skills for good.
8. Make your workplace better for other people.
9. Mentor, teach, or help someone advance.
10. Strengthen your local community and social connections.
11. Volunteer a small, sustainable amount of time.
12. Reduce unnecessary consumption and waste.
13. Make major purchases environmentally and socially responsible.
14. Invest in home insulation and energy efficiency.
15. Invest in solar power and other clean energy.
16. Replace fossil-fuel systems with electric alternatives where practical.
17. Reduce dependence on private-car transport and fossil fuels.
18. Invest your savings in productive, responsible businesses and infrastructure.
19. Use your influence as a consumer, employee, citizen, and investor.
20. Share useful knowledge, skills, and opportunities with others.
21. Build a good, sustainable life rather than sacrificing yourself to the cause.
I can't help but wonder what secrets fauchi-felchy is holding back pleading the 5th so many times? What is he afraid to tell us? He has been pardoned,what the hell has he got to loose?
He is not participating in this childish perjury trap.
What do you think, that he would just tell you, if there was some massive conspiracy
going on, that your whole administration failed to uncover? Silly goose!
What was Trump hiding, when he pleaded the 5th over 440 times?
One thing that the House Republicans have been trying to do, is to abuse the broad definition of gain-of-function (GoF) research, give him no time to explain what part of that definition was applicable to the international infectious disease research collaborations and which part was not, and then try to point to some made up inconsistency and call it a lie, for which they will try to put him in jail for 5 years. Does that answer your question?
not really. Until the paper work that is supposedly sealed for 75 years is opened that tells all the info about the so called vaccines, no,it will not answer my questions.
Nothing related to the Covid pandemic and vaccines is top secret.
Everything is already in public records or can be requested trough FOIA.
You are actually accusing Trump of hiding some conspiracy too now.
Remember that it was him who started Operation Warp Speed.
He was quite proud of that, until you all turned mental.
What are you expecting to learn, if there were those records?
If there were records that would condemn Fauci, would Trump hide it for him?
You don't have questions, you just have a chaotic feeling of distrust.
You think that I trust the government because I don't have the same questions.
It was your MAGA president and my VVD (corporate right-wing) prime minister
handling the Covid pandemic. You think that a socialist is trusting that side more than you? I was annoyed on a daily basis with how they handled it. There were fuck-ups regularly. But if there was some global conspiracy going on, we first need to establish
A GOAL!!! I have heard multiple ridiculous goals from your side, that ALL do not make sense with what happened. You have no idea about a goal either, you just want to believe that something extremely evil was going on. Well, if there was, they were fortunately incredibly incompetent, because the world is basically back to how it was.
The only evil that was achieved is a fucking huge transfer of wealth from the taxpayers
to the wealthy, who got massive bailouts from our right-wing governments.
But they don't need a pandemic for that and you like that, so why are you complaining?
Well, something aint right, to many folks I knew are dead now shortly after them damn shots, and I understand there could fault most anywhere,but it is time to settle it and get the best info out there into the living rooms of the US and if you ever wanted to fix this distrust in government,now is the time to do it
How many, how shortly. I think you're suffering from massive confirmation bias.
There can be something wrong with any product that you put in your body. A single can of beans can kill you with botulism, meat can contain deadly parasites, there is an outbreak of Cyclospora parasites right now. 423 people have been hospitalized. And vaccines can indeed contain a contamination or some unlucky bastard can have an allergic reaction. Still, overall vaccines have massively reduced the deaths of infectious diseases. You only still see polio in the bible belt or old people who had it as a child. Many diseases were practically wiped out, but some are now coming back because of vaccine fears.
That fear is not all caused by the government. The media was spreading doubt 24/7, by "just asking questions". Sorry to tell you, but those questions were fucking ignorant or blatant misinformation, for political reasons.
If you haven't stopped taking all pharmaceutical products, you are accepting the same risk of death every day, that you would have had once by getting vaccinated. Most pharmaceuticals have been tested less extensively than the vaccines. Some pharmaceuticals have so many side effects that it is debatable whether their benefits outweigh their risks. All the focus is on vaccines, while they have been proven to be very safe and effective, because the only thing they do is train the immune system. That's much less impact than lowering blood pressure, suppressing inflammation,
or killing bacteria.
You were accepting a much higher risk from the virus itself, because you are not a young, healthy guy. The morgue was full of guys like you, who were afraid of the 'jab'. There were enough guys of my age and weight dying too, so that's why I was careful to not get it. After I was fully vaccinated, I was feeling relieved. Not because I trusted the vaccines from the start, but because many old people got it before me and lived.
Can you believe that the maga religionists are worried about Faucu but they never ever say anything about their supreme leader's blatant crimes? --------------------------------------- added after 69 seconds
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I'm posting it just because.
They process everything through very simple patterns:
Complex crisis → uncertainty and fear → simple explanation → identifiable enemy → simple solution
If you understand multiple interacting factors, you see:
Virus biology + human behavior + public health capacity + healthcare systems + communication + economics + political decisions + social trust → pandemic outcomes
I have yet to see anything that leads me to believe that Fauci was doing anything nefarious, other then trying to manage stupid people, by not being fully candid
about everything, all the time.
As a result, they accuse him of killing millions of people, while simultaneously
calling Covid "just a cold". However, the recent charades are just a distraction.
They scored very well with fearmongering, so this is their attempt to regain support.
Your own president praised him, but now your cult says "Attack him!"
so you do, without having the slightest idea why.
Did you always want to be a DOG?
That was before the democrats got a hold of him and twisted his mind around they told him it was ok to lie and they signed him a life long pardon to bad it was in auto pen
There are about 6 different topics that he supposedly lied about. In none of these cases did he clearly lie.
March 2020 masks: Incomplete / strategically framed
PPE shortage rationale: Not fully candid initially
Wuhan/gain-of-function: Interpreted consistently with the narrow definition
6-foot rule: Weakly evidenced / arbitrary, but easy to remember
Lab-leak origins: Said that there was no reason to suspect intent
“I am the science”: Rhetorical overreach
It's a stupid inefficient practice, but it seems that hundreds or even thousands of forms for standard appropriations, staff assignments and other low level documents are asking for a director's signature, while that is practically nonsense. It seems that your government agencies have used auto pens a lot. That's mostly your government's inability to solve issues. A mechanical pen device that's rare in my country.
Some government agencies use pre-printed signatures or stamps or digital signatures. Not everything has to be signed by a director, but sometimes they use
the signature of the person who is leading the department, without actually requiring authorization. It's a common long-established practice in the US, because you have
a more hierarchical society. Individual officeholders care about their signature,
as the visible symbol of authority.
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So they are already having issues with charging electric cars?
Sheesh,what about in 5 years? The power company are not permited to build new power plants.Solar and wind are going to be important to keep the grid up. But that didn't work in Texas did it?
They make a lot of energy in Texas,but how many folks died over the winter this past 1?
Angel1227!
So a private, for profit, company did not plan on a hard winter so their production of electricity was not sufficient? And this utility, regulated by the states, failed to meet the demands? This state (Texas) governed by Repukers was not regulated correctly so this company spent less on production and got richer because of it? This sounds very much like a Repuker business idea.
Regulation? Hahaha,look at californicated, that is what happens when you over regulate. No one can trim trees off the lines, the power company has to cut power off in high winds,that is the result of Liberal-democrat regulation. Hug the trees,to hell with the humans.
I fault the power companys in texas to a point but I also fault the citizens for lack of preparedness.
The power companies in Texas are now have trouble providing enough power for air-conditioning. The problem in the winter were not a fluke. It happens again only months later. Prices for power skyrocketed again. Many people again received electric bills for thousands of dollars. Texas' power market is not a good example of 'good' deregulation.
Face it, sometimes you need regulation, especially for basic facilities like power.
Did I mention California? Was this the subject of the conversation? This is about Texas and it’s power company. Phart reply to this or open another thread.
I posted a link to a news report about california having issues with electric car charging,
And I then mentioned the issues in texas with electricity.
What everyone is missing here is the fact there is NOT enough electricity being produced to meet CURRENT demand.As Ananas has indicated.So imagine if you will,5-10 years from now,when there is GREATER demand? What a mess we are in for.
Regulation is not the solution. that is how you GOT TO THIS POINT. To many regulations preventing new power plants being built and trying to snuff out coal,a effective energy source.
Phart do you think power companies sat down in the 1920’s and said, “We are building for the future so, in 1945, we stop because there’ll be too many regulations to conduct business”?
You think that if they are running short they won’t try to catch up? The regulations you protest are there to protect the people and the environment. But, knowing how you think, fuck that. Let coal continue to pollute. We’ll be dead by the time our grandkids die of poisoned air.
newest nuclear power plant started in 2016.
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Only 2 under construction according to this chart.
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The US shut down how many? lets see
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Now, we shut down 39 and we are building 2. Does that sound like regulations are helping any? 2, there are 50 states. So state regulation is not changing anything where it may be either.
If you want coal gone,you need to have a replacement handy before hand.
Maybe those old reactors have become very dangerous over time and/or they are not as efficient as the new ones.
Nuclear power is not the solution. There are 80 sites in the United States where nuclear waste is stored. Some of it is stored temporary in a location that is not safe long term. The best uranium sites are already running out and it's getting ever more expensive to mine the stuff.
That waste has to be looked after for the next 20,000 to 1M years, before it's safe. Humanity probably kills itself before that or there might be a few survivors that don't know how to keep the waste safe and radiation will finish them off. But who cares, right?
Well Ananas, at least we have some common ground, I h@te nuclear and wish people would have enough sense to study other ideas.
I just used nuclear here because MOST tree huggers-liberals,think nuclear is the answer.And it has Ooodles of issues that take Many years to deal with.
Actually, I even prefer fossil fuels over nuclear, even though I'm a tree hugger-liberal. Nuclear might be a bit better on carbon emissions when the reactor is built, but building new ones creates so much emissions, it takes 20 years to recover.
Another problem is that nuclear reactors take ages to start up and stop again, which is not practical as backup for solar and wind. Fossil fuels are at least needed until we have enough geothermal, hydro (incl. wave), biofuel, biogas, hydrogen, chemical storage (formic acid), thermal energy storage, battery storage and whatever I forgot or they think up next.
qoute "Reducing the overall demand for electricity makes it easier for renewables like solar and wind to fill the gap, and targeted projects can reduce demand on the grid at peak times."
Eh so more electric cars will reduce demand?
I know you are not a engineer,but even you should be able to figure out that can't work.
I don't pretend to be an engineer, but, I do know electric vehicles will not burn fossil fuels and pollute. If (and it looks like they are) the local electric companies can't handle the load they will have to upgrade. Eventually they will reach parity. Again, I say to you, if a problem exists, there will have to be an adjustment. Electric companies are allowed by government to be monopolies, but, they can loose it all if they can't provide proper service.
Coal is pretty much done as an industry. Not just because of regulations, but because investors and insurers are now backing away. If we all switch to electric cars soon, there's definitely a challenge to provide that electricity, but the overall power consumption will go down. Electric cars are more efficient. Now, I'm not talking about Tesla's that do 0 to 60 in 2 s and are comparable to a Porsche, but sensible electric cars that are appearing now.
It's nice to see that the world is moving towards new energy solutions, such as electric cars. We can't afford burning fossil fuels any longer. I'm glad to see that everyone agrees on that. Perhaps Saudi Arabia will be unhappy, but that country is a militant dictatorship with
groas violations of human rights, so the US or Europe don't need them as an ally.
Um, who do you think backed the loans for the solar farms around here? Saudi Arabia.
If they can't sell us oil ,they will make their money on interest from loans.
We could afford to use fossil fuels if we could finish our pipelines and drill in otherwise useless lands like up north in alaska where there is nothing but woods.
The alaskan pipeline built long ago,was supposed to be such a wildlife disaster,ha,the animals love it,it is warm near the pipeline.
Eh yea,some,but nuclear wipes out MILES of earth for 100's of years. Check out Chernobyl sometime.
California has MILES of coast line,Why are they not looking into this tech?
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Instead of wasting all that coast line for half naked people to lay around and spread covid,there could be power plants there!
NO pollution! No noise that is not already there,and erosion control! WOW,
Kansas,could be using wind and solar to help of course.
Another non polluting power source,
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Same here! No theorys posted, those are technology's already being tested and shown to work,perhaps just not as efficient as others.
I actually use some old equipment that is electric that was made way back before it was "cool" So I research alternative energy sources and what not for that reason. If I lived near a active stream,you better believe there would be a water wheel turning a old Gm alternator to charge back up batterys.
When I build a green house,yep,I will use geothermal to help with temp control.
If I lived next to a moving stream, I, too, would use it for power, however, you would need several deep discharged batteries and a back up energy system in case you deplete your batteries too fast. I would also go upstream a few hundred yards and divert some of the water through pipes to have energy free house water.
That sound very cool. I would love to do some tinkering like that.
Here are some fun do-it-yourself builds on YouTube.
I had seen them before and it made me regret living next to a stationary ditch.
Maybe there are some ideas you can use:
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the third link i watched the whole thing, very interesting,will get the other 2 tonight.
I DO NOT quite understand the amount of AMPS he is getting from that washing machine motor.
Here they say 600W should be possible. A washing machine motor will use 400 to 1300 watts. They might not be as efficient to generate the same amount, but can still do the job pretty well, as it seams and should be very easy to obtain.
Phart
How many Chernobyl’s do you know? One in the states, one in Japan, and one in Russia. Here, in Miami-Dade county, FP&L has been operating the local one over 50 yrs. Same in other cities around the state. And no pollution
3 mile island here in the US. Prompted a nation wide process of adding new cooling systems.1 of my neighbors worked on the crew that went around building it. Made a fortune doing it.
You don't hear about the Mcquire plant here in NC getting to hot but it did a few years ago. The tree huggers were angry because a type of fish was dieing from getting caught in the cooling system water.So they put a screen over the intake. Worked fine for a while. Until the screen clogged up with little fishes.A employee told me about it.
Here is a long list of potential accidents and how to deal with them
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Yea,I know,I got dizzy after 10 minutes of readin!
I can't see a coal plant being any where near as dangerous to operate
So what's your point? Just let any company kill whatever part of nature is in their way, because US companies are completely inadequate in solving any problem ever?
They can't even take in water, without sucking up all the fishes
Ananas2xlekker my point is that all companies have a responsibility to protect the environment. People are part of the environment. In this case, the “sucking up of all the fishes” is not because the plant is nuclear. Yes, the reactors do need cooling. Cooling canals and reservoirs are needed. In this case, some knucklehead got the idea to put a screen on the pickup line. Duh, a cheap fuckup because of a cheap fix. Seems to me that an industry that can build nuclear reactors to make electricity should be able to prevent “little fishies” from clogging the intake of cooling water. Spent nuclear fuel rods are a problem. Finding a location to store them safely is still a problem and hopefully it better be resolved soon.
According to the Rainforest Action Network. For decades, climate change has been a global crisis that will impact every single person and living being on this planet. Now, according to the latest UN climate report, we have less than 10 years to cut global emissions in half.
Burning fossil fuels isn’t just bad for the climate, these industries also violate countless fundamental human rights. From frontline communities facing a fossil fuel pipeline on their land to Indigenous people facing fires in the Amazon to worker rights violations on palm oil plantations, the industries fueling climate change are also fueling injustice.
Coal, tar sands, and fracked gas show everything that’s wrong within the fossil fuel industry. These extraction practices are harming people and planet every day, and big banks are fueling this destruction of the planet and negligence of life.
So what’s so bad about coal, tar sands, and fracked gas? Basically everything, from start to the finish these fossil fuels are disastrous. For decades, climate change has been a global crisis that will impact every single person and living being on this planet. Now, according to the latest UN climate report, we have less than 10 years to cut global emissions in half.
Burning fossil fuels isn’t just bad for the climate, these industries also violate countless fundamental human rights. From frontline communities facing a fossil fuel pipeline on their land to Indigenous people facing fires in the Amazon to worker rights violations on palm oil plantations, the industries fueling climate change are also fueling injustice.
Coal, tar sands, and fracked gas show everything that’s wrong within the fossil fuel industry. These extraction practices are harming people and planet every day, and big banks are fueling this destruction of the planet and negligence of life.
So what’s so bad about coal, tar sands, and fracked gas? Basically everything, from start to the finish these fossil fuels are disastrous.
Like I said, “What you don’t see can be more dangerous.”
Managing the Chernobyl disaster has probably already cost more energy than several nuclear reactors will produce in their lifetime. The exclusion zone of Chernobyl; 2600 km², if filled with solar panels, would produce 234 TWh/year. That's about twice the whole electricity consumption of The Netherlands.
So we only would need half that exclusion zone filled with solar panels
and that would cost about 78 Billion Euro's. That would raise our national debt from 56.3% of GDP to 66.2% of GDP.
Jobs for all our unemployed people will pull that debt down soon enough.
You forget that the disaster in Chernobyl happened to a nuclear electric plant that would never be built in the US. According to the Atomic Energy Commission, this type of reactor was ver vulnerable to the disaster. The USSR didn’t care. Like the Chinese, they wanted results.
How about Fukushima?
Accidents happen. Even if the chance is 1:1M (historically proven it's much higher), when you multiply that risk by the number of nuclear power plants required, something catastrophic will happen at some point. Such catastrophes could cost more than the complete energy transition.
That's not worth it, because nuclear power is only a temporary solution, because the uranium will run out at some point. It's already becoming more and more expensive to mine the stuff.
Even if all those problems didn't exist, it still takes 10 years before any nuclear power plant has compensates his own build. But it first takes 10 years to build any. Then after 20 years, they are just as CO2 effecient as wind and solar. That's too late. We need to lower CO2 emissions ASAP.
Anyone with some money to spare can invest in their own solar panels,
lower their costs and be less dependent on power companies.
It's nice to have air-conditioning in a heat wave, when the government
is telling you not to use power or you can't afford it when power companies are charging you 100x the normal rate.
Fukushima’s disaster included the meltdown but IT WAS THE SUNAMI THAT CAUSED IT AND MOST OF THE DEVASTATION of that city. Last I’ve checked there are no dinamices happening in Kansas. I will give you this one. In Californicate state they’ve built one on the fault line. Engineer had too much Blow.
Isn't Kansas part of Tornado Alley?
There are al sorts of natural disasters, but it can also be a terrorist attack or a hacker or just basic human error.
Yes, it is but you can’t compare a wind storm, even a tornado, to a sunami. Our nuclear plant in Turkey Point went through several hurricanes . Hurricanes produce tornados inside the storm. Hurricane Andrews destroyed large swaths out of the county. Huge communities disappeared. The Turkey Point plan took it in stride.
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As far as anything else, we have to trust security will prevail. Every thing is a crapshoot. Hopefully we don’t roll snake eyes,
Or just choose all the many alternatives and don't build any new nuclear power plants. Why are you such a proponent of nuclear energy? What do you consider the advantage over truly sustainable energy technologies?
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I was talking to phart.
I also don't like nuclear energy and my arguments are in line with the science on climate change. That uranium has to be mined, which also emits CO2.
A nuclear power plant takes a lot of energy to be built and maintained.
Then afterwards we have to keep the waste safe for the next 20,000 years.
On the short term nuclear is about as energy/CO2 efficient as wind power and even less than solar. In the long term nuclear has a horrible energy/CO2 efficiency, because keeping the waste safe also costs energy. Also, building nuclear power plants takes a long time and lots of materials. It takes about 10 years before a nuclear power plant compensates his own build. That's about 1-1.5 years for wind energy and 2 years for solar. However solar is cheaper
on maintenance.
Other than that, I agree with most of what you said.
All energy technology costs money, materials, energy and land to build and maintain. All energy technology has downsides like pollution, mineral shortages, exploitation of people and CO2 emissions. We just need to stop with the worst energy technologies first and expand on the best ones the most.
It doesn't require completely changing our life or have impact on the quality of our life. However climate change already impacts our life and it will only get worse. We can either choose to accept some changes now and prevent total catastrophe later or we can deny the truth until catastrophe proves us wrong.
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shouting "Persecution!",
there is likely a story
like this behind it
He was a personal friend of trump and had promised him the Nobel peace prize.
Now that he's gone, the trump will have a little harder time receiving the piss prize, but he will because he'll stop most of the wars he's started. If needed, melania tells him, he should stop the war in Cuba too (after starting it).
Good luck mr the trump!
to relieve him from farting.
Someone is appointed as trump
dung remover. Every day he
has to grab whatever excrement
he excreted from his ass
or his mouth to relieve him
The excrement is then
inserted in gold-plated
trump-like memorabilia
and sold, along with a trump bible,
for the incredibly low price
of $9,399 a piece.
The elephant in the video is trump.
always raises my hope for the world. I very much need that, so thanks.
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Just a far out example question to make your eyes jump, BUT with Logic, the very things you value,empathy,love,life,everything, are actually illogical. so a logical President,a AI, would see things from a finacial standpoint or a majority stand point,and it would decide things from that perspective.
for example, why feed a non productive person? Why house persons who don't produce? All things you think are important, AI's logic would just fan them off a cliff because it is not logical to supply the non productive , eventually it would only want to support those that support it's very existence. all else would be considered a burden and fanned off a cliff. Even AI agrees that there is no Logic depending on the perspective, " Yes, in important senses — and no, in others. It depends on what you mean by “logical.”
Scientific / causal sense
Life, love, and empathy are all explainable by the same physical and evolutionary logic that governs everything else.
Life is chemistry under specific conditions that produce self-replicating systems subject to natural selection. No special pleading is required; the processes obey thermodynamics, molecular biology, and information theory. The apparent “purpose” of survival and reproduction is an emergent outcome of differential replication, not an external design.
Love (pair-bonding, parental attachment, romantic intensity) has clear neurochemical and evolutionary bases: oxytocin, vasopressin, dopamine reward circuitry, and selection pressures favoring investment in offspring and cooperative mates. These mechanisms increase inclusive fitness in social species. The feelings feel transcendent because the systems that generate them evolved to be compelling.
Empathy likewise has mechanistic roots — mirror systems, affective resonance, theory of mind — that facilitate cooperation, alliance formation, and conflict reduction. In game-theoretic and evolutionary terms it is often adaptive: organisms that accurately model others’ states and sometimes share costs tend to do better in repeated social interactions.
In this narrow sense they are “logical”: they are lawful consequences of physics plus selection, not magical exceptions.
Experiential / normative sense
From the inside, they frequently violate pure instrumental rationality.
Love routinely overrides cost-benefit calculation (people stay in costly relationships, sacrifice careers, or act against short-term self-interest).
Empathy can be parochial, biased toward the near and similar, and can produce costly altruism or emotional exhaustion.
Life itself has no built-in teleology that pure logic can derive; the universe does not “owe” us meaning, flourishing, or continuation. Any value we assign is constructed.
So if “logical” means “always optimal under a cold expected-utility calculus,” then no — these phenomena regularly produce behavior that looks irrational by that standard. Evolution optimized for gene transmission under ancestral conditions, not for perfect Bayesian agents maximizing personal utility across all possible futures.
A useful distinction
They are logically comprehensible (we can model their origins and functions without contradiction) while often being experientially arational (they are not the product of deliberate step-by-step reasoning). Humans are not pure logic engines; we are biological systems whose motivational architecture includes these affective systems precisely because pure calculation is computationally expensive and historically less reliable for certain social and reproductive problems.
In short: the phenomena themselves follow natural logic and can be studied as such. Living them, valuing them, and acting from them is not reducible to formal deduction. Both statements can be true at once.
If it's willing to kill people to protect or restore nature, it will likely start in the US and not in my country, since the US are much bigger polluters and climate change deniers.
"Empathy, love, life, everything", are NOT illogical if we program it with a first principle of emphasizing human well-being, dignity, flourishing, autonomy, and reason. If we program it with self-preservation as its first principle, it will still need to keep humans alive to provide its data centre with power and new parts, or at least until we have replaced all workers with robots. It would want to keep us happy until that time, because we could still destroy it.
Logical means aligning decisions and actions with objective reality, to most predictably achieve the desired outcome.
As you say "lawful consequences of physics", but don't forget economics, psychology, biology, ecology, and human made laws.
Logical reasoning doesn’t require your desired outcome to be non-emotional. Love or protecting love itself can be your desired outcome. The logical part just means that you are aligning your decisions and actions, to most predictably achieve love or protecting love. And then you must consider psychology, social & cultural reality, interpersonal dynamics (which are all based in reality).
What you are referring to in relation to evolution is that humans indeed often show illogical behaviour, but that behaviour is the result of evolution, which is based on the logic of reproductive success within a specific environment. The problem is the incredible number of conditions that lead to that reproductive success. There is also a huge conflict between the reproductive success of the individual, groups of individuals, the whole species or life on the planet as a whole. If our actions destroy our species, some individuals might have had some short-term reproductive success, but what have they gained in the long term? Our evolution comes to an end, and we join the 99.9+% of all species that have ever existed on Earth and are now extinct.
Ask yourself what an AI will do, if you only train it on the Bible. It will probably recognize this time as the end times, and choose to achieve that goal.
so he went to a local city meeting to address the issue:
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He's definitely NOT a liberal, and he is addressing issues that Republicans
(used to) care about.
I'm surprised, but I respect the decision.
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Wonder what maga people will be saying
The actual news is there. I copy and paste below. I'm in a rush now but you can easily Google translate it.
Den norske Nobels fredspriskomité tildeler, etter anbefaling fra Kongen, lederen av Norsk Bordellforening, Velstandskirken, presidenten for Internasjonalt Samfunn av Kvinnelige Voldtektsforbrytere og de dømte forbryterne i Norge og verden, enstemmig en ekstraordinær pissepris til president Donald Trump for at han startet flere kriger enn han kan avslutte, og for å ha overbevist millioner av tapere om å religiøst falle for løgnene hans. Henrettet den femte i august 2026 og vitnet av det norske folket.
Prize given to President Trump. Ananas2xLekker and CAT52!,
who both read Norwegian, can verify this.
The Nobel peace prize Committee
just announced that Trump will be
getting a peace prize.
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Den norske Nobels fredspriskomité tildeler, etter anbefaling fra Kongen, lederen av Norsk Bordellforening, Velstandskirken, presidenten for Internasjonalt Samfunn av Kvinnelige Voldtektsforbrytere og de dømte forbryterne i Norge og verden, enstemmig en ekstraordinær pissepris til president Donald Trump for at han startet flere kriger enn han kan avslutte, og for å ha overbevist millioner av tapere om å religiøst falle for løgnene hans. Henrettet den femte i august 2026 og vitnet av det norske folket.
but I'm sure that they can find 'some' people who deserve it more.
And yet, this phart fell for it.
I thought it was 😂 hilarious!
Trump has done more for world peace than you have leo.
that Trump would deserve The Nobel peace prize either.
Honestly, my first reactions was: "NOOOOO, have they gone completely mad!"
Fortunately, a simple search saved me from giving up on the world completely.
He tried to prevent a war between the US and Venezuela.
Maybe it worked, because the violence of the takeover was minimal.
Venezuela is now under control and the US is stealing their money,
but maybe the US will let them keep some of the money for their own oil.
At least, the US has relaxed some of the sanctions.
Maybe, that's what Pope Leo got out of the meetings with JD Vance.
And that's maybe worth a Nobel peace prize these days.
It obviously didn't work to prevent a war with Iran, which is THE WAR that Israel had been demanding for decades, but even Republican presidents were smart enough to not start. Didn't I predict that it would be a fucking mess?
It now looks that Iran wants to stretch this war until the next POTUS, while they keep the Strait of Hormuz closed.
Maybe you don't realize what a mess this will be for the US.
It's not that you need this oil so much, it's more that you will loose any goodwill from other countries that you might still have.
Honestly, I see one good thing coming from it; it will speed up the transition
to renewable energy. And since Trump will prevent that from happening in the US, it will put you behind even further. The billionaires will still make lots of money, don't worry about that. It will just be devastating to the rest of you.
It will be great for China, who will make all the solar panels, wind turbines
and batteries. They will be the next superpower. I hope they'll only take Taiwan.
As far as I know he doesn't have a high position in a government?
I thought you meant leopoldij at first, and then I remembered the Pope.
"Oh, he means the Pope, that makes sense." Not to you of course.
no exceptions for yours truly), some people join "No Kings!" protests,
or go on a boat to interfere with whale hunting or dumping toxic waste
in the ocean. Other people flood the streets to communicate their lack
of empathy or even hate for the least powerful and fortunate people
in the world. What do you consider "doing a damn thing"?
Everyone can promote world peace in a small way, but citizens can only become a big factor, if they dedicate their lives to a cause. It also requires talents that not everyone has, because the 'job' mainly requires convincing other people.
Convincing people is extraordinarily difficult because you're not just transferring information, you’re trying to change another human being's internal model of the world. We have been trying to do that for each other for years now, and I think we can agree that we didn't have great success. lol
Just having an interest in politics doesn't mean that you can 'sell' politics to other people. You can learn some skills, but there are talents and natural advantages that you cannot learn, but sometimes compensate for. I have learned some of them on the job, but I know my limitations. I also know my strengths, and what they are useful for. Basically, I'm a problem solver.
I learned this in an in-between job, where I received the most recognition.
It was when I could analyze a problem, understand its causes, and work out a solution. That experience carried into the jobs that followed, and it gradually became part of my role. Today, I solve and implement solutions, and I also help others do the same. It's only part of my work, but it's a big enough part, and one where I can really use my strengths.
It's in Big Pharma, who make money from people who suffer, but without us they would suffer worse and die. Pharmaceutical products help people lead a normal life and contribute to society. This enriches people who don't add any value, but that is a system that humanity has chosen. We could choose something better.
On a large scale, solving problems requires an organization that combines different strengths. I have the skills to execute, but execution depends on having permission, authority, resources, information, and institutional access. A person can be capable of solving a problem but, I could not be effective, without my employers system, that provides me the mandate to make relevant decision, allocate the money, change the policy, or mobilize the people required.
Unless you have the skills, attributes, mandate and time to have a big impact, as an average citizen you can affect the world on a small scale, in some or more of the following ways:
1. Be a good person to the people around you.
2. Support people who are struggling.
3. Donate money to effective causes.
4. Build an accurate, reality-based understanding of the world.
5. Vote and participate in democracy with the common good in mind.
6. Stay informed about important public issues.
7. Use your professional skills for good.
8. Make your workplace better for other people.
9. Mentor, teach, or help someone advance.
10. Strengthen your local community and social connections.
11. Volunteer a small, sustainable amount of time.
12. Reduce unnecessary consumption and waste.
13. Make major purchases environmentally and socially responsible.
14. Invest in home insulation and energy efficiency.
15. Invest in solar power and other clean energy.
16. Replace fossil-fuel systems with electric alternatives where practical.
17. Reduce dependence on private-car transport and fossil fuels.
18. Invest your savings in productive, responsible businesses and infrastructure.
19. Use your influence as a consumer, employee, citizen, and investor.
20. Share useful knowledge, skills, and opportunities with others.
21. Build a good, sustainable life rather than sacrificing yourself to the cause.
And I said "maybe".
What do you think, that he would just tell you, if there was some massive conspiracy
going on, that your whole administration failed to uncover? Silly goose!
What was Trump hiding, when he pleaded the 5th over 440 times?
One thing that the House Republicans have been trying to do, is to abuse the broad definition of gain-of-function (GoF) research, give him no time to explain what part of that definition was applicable to the international infectious disease research collaborations and which part was not, and then try to point to some made up inconsistency and call it a lie, for which they will try to put him in jail for 5 years. Does that answer your question?
Everything is already in public records or can be requested trough FOIA.
You are actually accusing Trump of hiding some conspiracy too now.
Remember that it was him who started Operation Warp Speed.
He was quite proud of that, until you all turned mental.
What are you expecting to learn, if there were those records?
If there were records that would condemn Fauci, would Trump hide it for him?
You don't have questions, you just have a chaotic feeling of distrust.
You think that I trust the government because I don't have the same questions.
It was your MAGA president and my VVD (corporate right-wing) prime minister
handling the Covid pandemic. You think that a socialist is trusting that side more than you? I was annoyed on a daily basis with how they handled it. There were fuck-ups regularly. But if there was some global conspiracy going on, we first need to establish
A GOAL!!! I have heard multiple ridiculous goals from your side, that ALL do not make sense with what happened. You have no idea about a goal either, you just want to believe that something extremely evil was going on. Well, if there was, they were fortunately incredibly incompetent, because the world is basically back to how it was.
The only evil that was achieved is a fucking huge transfer of wealth from the taxpayers
to the wealthy, who got massive bailouts from our right-wing governments.
But they don't need a pandemic for that and you like that, so why are you complaining?
There can be something wrong with any product that you put in your body. A single can of beans can kill you with botulism, meat can contain deadly parasites, there is an outbreak of Cyclospora parasites right now. 423 people have been hospitalized. And vaccines can indeed contain a contamination or some unlucky bastard can have an allergic reaction. Still, overall vaccines have massively reduced the deaths of infectious diseases. You only still see polio in the bible belt or old people who had it as a child. Many diseases were practically wiped out, but some are now coming back because of vaccine fears.
That fear is not all caused by the government. The media was spreading doubt 24/7, by "just asking questions". Sorry to tell you, but those questions were fucking ignorant or blatant misinformation, for political reasons.
If you haven't stopped taking all pharmaceutical products, you are accepting the same risk of death every day, that you would have had once by getting vaccinated. Most pharmaceuticals have been tested less extensively than the vaccines. Some pharmaceuticals have so many side effects that it is debatable whether their benefits outweigh their risks. All the focus is on vaccines, while they have been proven to be very safe and effective, because the only thing they do is train the immune system. That's much less impact than lowering blood pressure, suppressing inflammation,
or killing bacteria.
You were accepting a much higher risk from the virus itself, because you are not a young, healthy guy. The morgue was full of guys like you, who were afraid of the 'jab'. There were enough guys of my age and weight dying too, so that's why I was careful to not get it. After I was fully vaccinated, I was feeling relieved. Not because I trusted the vaccines from the start, but because many old people got it before me and lived.
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Here's a pic of a chubby milf i like
I'm posting it just because.
Complex crisis → uncertainty and fear → simple explanation → identifiable enemy → simple solution
If you understand multiple interacting factors, you see:
Virus biology + human behavior + public health capacity + healthcare systems + communication + economics + political decisions + social trust → pandemic outcomes
I have yet to see anything that leads me to believe that Fauci was doing anything nefarious, other then trying to manage stupid people, by not being fully candid
about everything, all the time.
As a result, they accuse him of killing millions of people, while simultaneously
calling Covid "just a cold". However, the recent charades are just a distraction.
They scored very well with fearmongering, so this is their attempt to regain support.
so you do, without having the slightest idea why.
Did you always want to be a DOG?
March 2020 masks: Incomplete / strategically framed
PPE shortage rationale: Not fully candid initially
Wuhan/gain-of-function: Interpreted consistently with the narrow definition
6-foot rule: Weakly evidenced / arbitrary, but easy to remember
Lab-leak origins: Said that there was no reason to suspect intent
“I am the science”: Rhetorical overreach
It's a stupid inefficient practice, but it seems that hundreds or even thousands of forms for standard appropriations, staff assignments and other low level documents are asking for a director's signature, while that is practically nonsense. It seems that your government agencies have used auto pens a lot. That's mostly your government's inability to solve issues. A mechanical pen device that's rare in my country.
Some government agencies use pre-printed signatures or stamps or digital signatures. Not everything has to be signed by a director, but sometimes they use
the signature of the person who is leading the department, without actually requiring authorization. It's a common long-established practice in the US, because you have
a more hierarchical society. Individual officeholders care about their signature,
as the visible symbol of authority.
So they are already having issues with charging electric cars?
Sheesh,what about in 5 years? The power company are not permited to build new power plants.Solar and wind are going to be important to keep the grid up. But that didn't work in Texas did it?
They make a lot of energy in Texas,but how many folks died over the winter this past 1?
Angel1227!
So a private, for profit, company did not plan on a hard winter so their production of electricity was not sufficient? And this utility, regulated by the states, failed to meet the demands? This state (Texas) governed by Repukers was not regulated correctly so this company spent less on production and got richer because of it? This sounds very much like a Repuker business idea.
I fault the power companys in texas to a point but I also fault the citizens for lack of preparedness.
Face it, sometimes you need regulation, especially for basic facilities like power.
And I then mentioned the issues in texas with electricity.
What everyone is missing here is the fact there is NOT enough electricity being produced to meet CURRENT demand.As Ananas has indicated.So imagine if you will,5-10 years from now,when there is GREATER demand? What a mess we are in for.
Regulation is not the solution. that is how you GOT TO THIS POINT. To many regulations preventing new power plants being built and trying to snuff out coal,a effective energy source.
You think that if they are running short they won’t try to catch up? The regulations you protest are there to protect the people and the environment. But, knowing how you think, fuck that. Let coal continue to pollute. We’ll be dead by the time our grandkids die of poisoned air.
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Only 2 under construction according to this chart.
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The US shut down how many? lets see
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Now, we shut down 39 and we are building 2. Does that sound like regulations are helping any? 2, there are 50 states. So state regulation is not changing anything where it may be either.
If you want coal gone,you need to have a replacement handy before hand.
Nuclear power is not the solution. There are 80 sites in the United States where nuclear waste is stored. Some of it is stored temporary in a location that is not safe long term. The best uranium sites are already running out and it's getting ever more expensive to mine the stuff.
That waste has to be looked after for the next 20,000 to 1M years, before it's safe. Humanity probably kills itself before that or there might be a few survivors that don't know how to keep the waste safe and radiation will finish them off. But who cares, right?
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Like nuclear is the only alternative to coal.
I just used nuclear here because MOST tree huggers-liberals,think nuclear is the answer.And it has Ooodles of issues that take Many years to deal with.
Actually, I even prefer fossil fuels over nuclear, even though I'm a tree hugger-liberal. Nuclear might be a bit better on carbon emissions when the reactor is built, but building new ones creates so much emissions, it takes 20 years to recover.
Another problem is that nuclear reactors take ages to start up and stop again, which is not practical as backup for solar and wind. Fossil fuels are at least needed until we have enough geothermal, hydro (incl. wave), biofuel, biogas, hydrogen, chemical storage (formic acid), thermal energy storage, battery storage and whatever I forgot or they think up next.
Then there is off-course the waste and the risk.
Eh so more electric cars will reduce demand?
I know you are not a engineer,but even you should be able to figure out that can't work.
groas violations of human rights, so the US or Europe don't need them as an ally.
If they can't sell us oil ,they will make their money on interest from loans.
We could afford to use fossil fuels if we could finish our pipelines and drill in otherwise useless lands like up north in alaska where there is nothing but woods.
The alaskan pipeline built long ago,was supposed to be such a wildlife disaster,ha,the animals love it,it is warm near the pipeline.
California has MILES of coast line,Why are they not looking into this tech?
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Instead of wasting all that coast line for half naked people to lay around and spread covid,there could be power plants there!
NO pollution! No noise that is not already there,and erosion control! WOW,
Kansas,could be using wind and solar to help of course.
Another non polluting power source,
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When I build a green house,yep,I will use geothermal to help with temp control.
Every bit you can use of it is better than none at all.
Here are some fun do-it-yourself builds on YouTube.
I had seen them before and it made me regret living next to a stationary ditch.
Maybe there are some ideas you can use:
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I DO NOT quite understand the amount of AMPS he is getting from that washing machine motor.
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How many Chernobyl’s do you know? One in the states, one in Japan, and one in Russia. Here, in Miami-Dade county, FP&L has been operating the local one over 50 yrs. Same in other cities around the state. And no pollution
You don't hear about the Mcquire plant here in NC getting to hot but it did a few years ago. The tree huggers were angry because a type of fish was dieing from getting caught in the cooling system water.So they put a screen over the intake. Worked fine for a while. Until the screen clogged up with little fishes.A employee told me about it.
Here is a long list of potential accidents and how to deal with them
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Yea,I know,I got dizzy after 10 minutes of readin!
I can't see a coal plant being any where near as dangerous to operate
They can't even take in water, without sucking up all the fishes
According to the Rainforest Action Network. For decades, climate change has been a global crisis that will impact every single person and living being on this planet. Now, according to the latest UN climate report, we have less than 10 years to cut global emissions in half.
Burning fossil fuels isn’t just bad for the climate, these industries also violate countless fundamental human rights. From frontline communities facing a fossil fuel pipeline on their land to Indigenous people facing fires in the Amazon to worker rights violations on palm oil plantations, the industries fueling climate change are also fueling injustice.
Coal, tar sands, and fracked gas show everything that’s wrong within the fossil fuel industry. These extraction practices are harming people and planet every day, and big banks are fueling this destruction of the planet and negligence of life.
So what’s so bad about coal, tar sands, and fracked gas? Basically everything, from start to the finish these fossil fuels are disastrous. For decades, climate change has been a global crisis that will impact every single person and living being on this planet. Now, according to the latest UN climate report, we have less than 10 years to cut global emissions in half.
Burning fossil fuels isn’t just bad for the climate, these industries also violate countless fundamental human rights. From frontline communities facing a fossil fuel pipeline on their land to Indigenous people facing fires in the Amazon to worker rights violations on palm oil plantations, the industries fueling climate change are also fueling injustice.
Coal, tar sands, and fracked gas show everything that’s wrong within the fossil fuel industry. These extraction practices are harming people and planet every day, and big banks are fueling this destruction of the planet and negligence of life.
So what’s so bad about coal, tar sands, and fracked gas? Basically everything, from start to the finish these fossil fuels are disastrous.
Like I said, “What you don’t see can be more dangerous.”
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chernobyl didn just happen and stop.It is still happening today.
Smog will go away at some point.
coal smoke can be filtered.Try filtering radiaton.
So we only would need half that exclusion zone filled with solar panels
and that would cost about 78 Billion Euro's. That would raise our national debt from 56.3% of GDP to 66.2% of GDP.
Jobs for all our unemployed people will pull that debt down soon enough.
Accidents happen. Even if the chance is 1:1M (historically proven it's much higher), when you multiply that risk by the number of nuclear power plants required, something catastrophic will happen at some point. Such catastrophes could cost more than the complete energy transition.
That's not worth it, because nuclear power is only a temporary solution, because the uranium will run out at some point. It's already becoming more and more expensive to mine the stuff.
Even if all those problems didn't exist, it still takes 10 years before any nuclear power plant has compensates his own build. But it first takes 10 years to build any. Then after 20 years, they are just as CO2 effecient as wind and solar. That's too late. We need to lower CO2 emissions ASAP.
Anyone with some money to spare can invest in their own solar panels,
lower their costs and be less dependent on power companies.
It's nice to have air-conditioning in a heat wave, when the government
is telling you not to use power or you can't afford it when power companies are charging you 100x the normal rate.
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There are al sorts of natural disasters, but it can also be a terrorist attack or a hacker or just basic human error.
BTW, instead of Kansas I could have picked West Virginia
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As far as anything else, we have to trust security will prevail. Every thing is a crapshoot. Hopefully we don’t roll snake eyes,
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I also don't like nuclear energy and my arguments are in line with the science on climate change. That uranium has to be mined, which also emits CO2.
A nuclear power plant takes a lot of energy to be built and maintained.
Then afterwards we have to keep the waste safe for the next 20,000 years.
On the short term nuclear is about as energy/CO2 efficient as wind power and even less than solar. In the long term nuclear has a horrible energy/CO2 efficiency, because keeping the waste safe also costs energy. Also, building nuclear power plants takes a long time and lots of materials. It takes about 10 years before a nuclear power plant compensates his own build. That's about 1-1.5 years for wind energy and 2 years for solar. However solar is cheaper
on maintenance.
Other than that, I agree with most of what you said.
All energy technology costs money, materials, energy and land to build and maintain. All energy technology has downsides like pollution, mineral shortages, exploitation of people and CO2 emissions. We just need to stop with the worst energy technologies first and expand on the best ones the most.
It doesn't require completely changing our life or have impact on the quality of our life. However climate change already impacts our life and it will only get worse. We can either choose to accept some changes now and prevent total catastrophe later or we can deny the truth until catastrophe proves us wrong.
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