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As forest gump said,, stupid is is stupid does.
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KKK and trump
Leo is just reminding us all of the hypocrisy,
if leo likes the guy,he can interact with who he wishes, if not, then he is a racist bastard, aint that how it works?
Does Biden have a Family’s History with the KKK?
But please give me some examples of Biden being racist, and I raise you a Trump.
I'll draw a nice one for you, just to start off:
Trump on black supporter: "Look at my African-American"
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Let's play 'Racist Spades'.
You are putting FOUR fallacies in just one argument, WOW:
1. Tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy)
“You can’t criticize Trump for a family history with the KKK, because Biden has also been racist in some ways.”
2. False equivalence
You equate:
- The KKK’s systematic, ideologically central to racism.
WITH
- Minor or incidental acts of discrimination by Biden.
3. Conceptual stretching / motte-and-bailey definition shift
Redefine “racism” so that everyone is racist, and therefore the KKK isn’t uniquely bad.
Motte: the safe, broad claim (“everyone is racist in some way”), difficult to refute.
Bailey: the controversial claim (“therefore the KKK isn’t particularly bad”), smuggled in under the broad definition.
4. Whataboutism
When this is done strategically to deflect moral responsibility by bringing up unrelated wrongs, it’s also a form of whataboutism, a rhetorical tactic rather than a logical refutation.
Nice how I get to use my Motte and Bailey Fallacy picture from Aug 6:
I said: trumps have a history with kkk.
I never said Biden is not racist. He is. This does not contradict my statement.
Biden is a racist.
The Trumps have had kkk connections for long time.
If you're talking about the maga people, not only will they be discouraged but they'll be empowered when they realize that the trumps have a long history with kkk and nazis.
I only pointed out a fact.
an entity that's closer to the
underworld than any human society.
It's not even part of our civilization as humans.
Did the Mafia help the US in WWII?
Italian Americans were very helpful in the planning and execution of the invasion of Sicily. The Mafia was involved in assisting the U.S. war efforts. Luciano's associates found numerous Sicilians to help the Naval Intelligence draw maps of the harbors of Sicily and dig up old snapshots of the coastline.
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Mafia, unlike street gangs and its thugs, doesn't do unnecessary violence and usually tries to avoid collateral damage,
Mafia does kill, and so does street gangs. But mafia kills (mostly) other gangsters and doesn't deliberately targets innocent civilians
You just can't accept the fact that Trump is doing more good for our nation in the long term than short term.
When you as a human get help from a dr, sometimes the treatment hurts, takes time to recover from the surgery or side effects of medicine.
When America as a nation finally gets help, it will take time for markets to correct,jobs to return, some pain will be felt, but for the LONG TERM GOOD of our nation, Trump was the better choice. We will have less bums in our country, more jobs, better quality goods and a more equal trading relationship with other countrys because they will be buying our products as we buy theirs.
so I will just say this and move along!
Yidla amabhulukwe ami amafushane
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(This is not political, it's more a warning and a stock trading advice)
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Oh and the "trait" is authoritarian .
I guess if we all wanted a free for all circle jurk world where no one owns anything and has no privacy ,no security ,nothing, libs would be happy?
Authority can be abused, no doubt, but without SOME , the world would be chaos.
or at least not when your side breaks the law.
stealing is illegal,what part of that is obedience?
Just 2 examples.
just recently in my state, we have had so many criminals turned loose to commit more crimes until finally they kill and get kept inside for a while after that.
When people break the law, we have police to arrest them, and prosecutors,
lawyers and judges to determine guilt or innocence and punishment, if applicable.
That the system of law and order that I support.
You are however supporting that your law enforcement breaks the law. That's wrong.
It's wrong to fight crime with crime. It destroys the legitimacy of the state. It makes the state more dangerous than the criminals, because the criminals don't have the power of the state. If you get attacked by a criminal, you have the right of self defense, but if you get attacked by law enforcement, you don't. That means you are at their mercy.
When you allow law enforcement to break the law against criminals, you also allow them to break the law against everyone else. That means that you support law enforcement to enforce obedience, rather than the law.
Is that making sense for you at all?
How would you catch a child predator on the internet?
How would you find the criminals in a town without blending in with them?
Even if there are undercover cops, 'blending in' with organized crime, they are STILL not breaking the law. There are laws that allow them to 'blend in', up to a point.
They cannot of course kill some innocent bystander, to protect their cover, but there are laws for what police can do undercover, which would be against the law if they are not. It's all documented and afterwards defended in court.
You are again doing the Motte and Bailey Fallacy, by suggesting that all the cops ever do is break the law a bit, when they are undercover, to deny the ridiculous lawlessness of your 'law enforcement' under Trump. It's your favorite trick.
of Trump saying "We have to get over it!" on the Facebook page of Charly Kirk.
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This guy looks like dgraff. Was he mistaken for an illegal immigrant?
Now tell me that you are NOT supporting enforcing obedience.
in their face. That guy would be a Republican, if Trump hadn't turned it to fascism.
It's very much possible that he is a fan of Charlie Kirk, and just didn't like how Trump doesn't give a fuck about his murder, except for using it to his political advantage.
"According to the Perry County Sheriff's Office website, Bushart was arrested the following morning on a charge of Threats of Mass Violence on School Property and Activities, a class E felony punishable by between one and six years in prison and up to a $3,000 fine. Worse, Bushart's bail is set at an astonishing $2 million."
Where are the Threats of Mass Violence?
Not long ago, phart defended the free speech of Julie Sweeney, a 53-year-old
from Cheshire, who was jailed for 15 months after posting on Facebook:
“Don’t protect the mosques, blow the mosque up with the adults in it”.
I accept nothing but a defense of the free speech of Larry Bushart Jr.
People are getting jailed for criticizing your president.
That's what the 1st Amendment was created for, to prevent.
Trump is literally making law against 'Anti-American' and 'Anti-Christian' speech.
Show how thick your double standards are, by supporting THAT.
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The nerve of you democrats demanding a trillion dollars for illegal immigrants
Just who do you people think you are that’s not what the people want deport the immigrants
And that nigga from New York he’s pretty young he must not remember what happened to Martin Luther King Martin Luther King Jr Malcom X Rodney King and George Floyd all had big mouths and payed the price for it
Frankly, the longer the government is shut down the better things will get.
The reason the dems don't like it is because it proves they are useless! the world will keep right on turning if all the democrats went to the moon!
If they shut down we still operate on a smaller government and if they cave trump wins
gas down to 1.85
stay closed a month, hell, lets enjoy some affordable fuel this fall, have a great travel season to help the mountain communitys with tourism after the bad storm last year! THe people can afford to help their neighbors when fuel is affordable.
When the economy goes down the drain, the oil and gas prices go down too.
That's because when production decreases, demand for energy decreases.
Lower demand means lower prices.
Remember the Covid crisis, when the price of oil was below $0,-?
There is way less tourism in the US. I told you before, but you said you didn't care. Foreigners don't want to come to a country where fascism is on the rise. Old people are less able to travel, because their social security isn't keeping up with their costs.
all time high ! does that sound like the economy crashing?
2) Cutting taxes for the wealthy is good for stocks, not for the working class.
3) The dollar has lost 9%–11% of its external value so far this year.
EUR/USD was 1.02 in January. It climbed to 1.18 in September.
That combined with inflation makes it 41,742.5. The real value is actually declining.
If your dollar drops 50%, you might see a Dow of 80,000. The number is useless.
Still, I just made over $1750 selling my AMD stock. I had it for avg. 1 year.
It's the last American stock that I had. Many experts expect a crash.
I'm buying Chinese stocks now (BYD and XPeng). Also looking at TSMC.
It's not strange to think that Trump is causing crashes intentionally,
so he gets lots of money from his friends making big bucks from trading.
Every time he causes a crash, he relaxes some tariffs afterwards
or he delays them some more. Then the stocks go up again.
If the stock goes down far enough, I will buy Amazon and AMD again.
I don't get the intel, but I can anticipate their moves. It's not 4D chess.
Cheating is a game for losers, but that has been Trump's strategy all along.
Trump is really hurting your economy with this trick, but that's all part of his strategy. He's destroying the government and giving control to the billionaires, with him pulling the strings (that's what he thinks, but they will eliminate him at any point when he oversteps his usefulness. He gets a heart attack and JD Vance takes over. He's a loyal dog for Peter Thiel, who wants his tech feudalism. It's very funny how the South is now serving the carpetbaggers.). In any case, they win, you lose.
"President Donald Trump's approval rating has hit a record low for his second term, according to a polling tracker.
The Vote Hub polling tracker showed that on September 30, Trump's net approval rating hit -10 points, with 43 percent approving and 53 percent disapproving.
It has since bounced back slightly as the government shutdown has kicked in, with 44 percent approving and 53 percent disapproving as of October 2, giving him a net approval of -9 points."
Sure, emergency's+ like heart attacks and so forth, help the person, but damn this shit of them walking off and NEVER being expected to pay back a dime. Document the time and service, and if they start showing income, get some of the money back each month from their income. it would be done to you and i if we didn't pay our bill, they can lock on your bank accounts and everything else, take your house, but yet if you have NOTHING, you get care for nothing. fix that. and before you start this shit about me being wrong , I know for a damn fact a friend of mine went in the hospital with a brain tumor that was caused him to be unable to live alone, the police came took him in , the hospital took his car-truck,tools, , his home, his social security and everything for the bill , reason i know is i had to bid on and pay for stuff he had in his will for me to inherit.
BTW, in Florida, and I suspect in some other states, your home is untouchable. They can put a lien but they can't take your home.
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so they should get something back for their money.
and if they are using the roads that tax money built, they are getting more than they deserve
Education: Sales tax helps fund local public schools, state universities, and libraries.
Public safety: It provides revenue for local law enforcement, fire departments, and emergency response services.
Infrastructure: The funds are used to maintain and build transportation networks, such as roads, bridges, and public transit.
Community and social services: Sales tax supports various social programs, parks, and cultural events.
Healthcare: In some places, sales tax revenue contributes to healthcare programs.
Check out the last one.
Payroll taxes (for social insurance programs)
Social Security taxes: $25.7 B
Medicare taxes: $6.4 B
Unemployment insurance taxes: $1.8 B
Federal income taxes (i.e. payable to IRS but not payroll) — included in the federal component of the ~$59.4B. The detailed number in that report is ~$19.5 B for federal income taxes.
State & Local Taxes (from the ~$37.3B) broken down:
Sales & excise taxes: $15.1 B
Property taxes: $10.4 B
Personal & business income taxes: $7.0 B
Other state‐local taxes: $0.5 B
Additionally, $4.2B paid to other states by purchases / cross-state effects etc.
Phart, can you do any research, instead of just saying shit?
Are you afraid that you might LEARN something?
those states give the illegals all this. and who pays for it, the tax payer.not good.
Based on admissions data collected for 2024, it is estimated that the total cost of care provided to illegal immigrants is nearly $660 million
that is just 1 friggen state.
Other than WIC, unauthorized immigrants are generally ineligible for federally funded supports except for emergency Medicaid, primary and preventive health care at Federally Qualified Health Centers (FQHCs), free/reduced school lunch, and short-term access to shelters and soup kitchens in emergency situations.
taking school lunchs from kids of citizens. how nice.
Yes. Immigrants, like U.S. citizens, can qualify for Medicare. But for immigrants who aren't citizens to be eligible, their immigration status in addition to their work history must meet the federal health program's requirements. Those without legal status have never been eligible for Medicare benefits.
WHY WHY ?
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$6.4 B is more than $660 million, ISN'T IT?
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Like I said many times: lots of undocumented immigrants are paying taxes.
If they pay into a system, they should be 'entitled' to use the system.
“Yes, many undocumented immigrants use fake documents to obtain jobs, a common practice that has created a large market for counterfeit papers. This is largely a consequence of needing to work to support themselves and their families while having no legal avenue to do so.”
That means that MANY illegals are hired with these fake documents. Guess what? The employer collects payroll taxes from these individuals. Yes, many do PAY PAYROLL TAXES, let alone sales taxes. One other point. I’m not sure how much of an effect this has, but, most states have some form of lottery like Fantasy 5 or Lotto. A large portion goes to support educational programs. I’m pretty sure illegals bet like regular légala, so…….they do support schooling for their children. And, let’s not forget gasoline taxes. These are excise taxes and, generally, not sales taxes. I believe they drive cars and such. They also pay road usage tolls.
So, when you say they don’t pay taxes except for sales taxes, you are wrong.
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BTW, Phart, did you notice this?
“ a consequence of needing to work to support themselves and their families ”
To support themselves and their families. That is what most do. They are honest, hard working people who want to do nothing more than survive like the rest of us. Yes, they are breaking the law. Only, it’s by taking a step across an invisible line that separates the, how did Hemingway put it, “the haves and have nots”.
"make Mexico great again".
it hasn't always been a dangerous shit hole. what changed? the unchecked drug trade.
“ There are millions of people who use illegal drugs.”
During World War II, over 120,000 Japanese Americans, the majority of whom were U.S. citizens, were forcibly removed from their homes and incarcerated in government camps.
Millions vs 120K? Think about it.
Oh, damn that's you. Know that it's the next step from what you said.
tents would work fine for prisoners and dopers. If you make it to comfy, they will not want to leave.
They think of the unemployed and disabled as undesirables.
You are supporting your own persecution.
US Holocaust Memorial Museum - The Murder of People with Disabilities.
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"The Nazis saw people with disabilities as an obstacle in their attempts to create an idealized "German race." In 1939, the Nazi regime began a systematic program to murder them."
They started murdering disabled people, before they started murdering Jews.
Damn good 1,
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So they are already having issues with charging electric cars?
Sheesh,what about in 5 years? The power company are not permited to build new power plants.Solar and wind are going to be important to keep the grid up. But that didn't work in Texas did it?
They make a lot of energy in Texas,but how many folks died over the winter this past 1?
Angel1227!
So a private, for profit, company did not plan on a hard winter so their production of electricity was not sufficient? And this utility, regulated by the states, failed to meet the demands? This state (Texas) governed by Repukers was not regulated correctly so this company spent less on production and got richer because of it? This sounds very much like a Repuker business idea.
I fault the power companys in texas to a point but I also fault the citizens for lack of preparedness.
Face it, sometimes you need regulation, especially for basic facilities like power.
And I then mentioned the issues in texas with electricity.
What everyone is missing here is the fact there is NOT enough electricity being produced to meet CURRENT demand.As Ananas has indicated.So imagine if you will,5-10 years from now,when there is GREATER demand? What a mess we are in for.
Regulation is not the solution. that is how you GOT TO THIS POINT. To many regulations preventing new power plants being built and trying to snuff out coal,a effective energy source.
You think that if they are running short they won’t try to catch up? The regulations you protest are there to protect the people and the environment. But, knowing how you think, fuck that. Let coal continue to pollute. We’ll be dead by the time our grandkids die of poisoned air.
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Only 2 under construction according to this chart.
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The US shut down how many? lets see
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Now, we shut down 39 and we are building 2. Does that sound like regulations are helping any? 2, there are 50 states. So state regulation is not changing anything where it may be either.
If you want coal gone,you need to have a replacement handy before hand.
Nuclear power is not the solution. There are 80 sites in the United States where nuclear waste is stored. Some of it is stored temporary in a location that is not safe long term. The best uranium sites are already running out and it's getting ever more expensive to mine the stuff.
That waste has to be looked after for the next 20,000 to 1M years, before it's safe. Humanity probably kills itself before that or there might be a few survivors that don't know how to keep the waste safe and radiation will finish them off. But who cares, right?
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Like nuclear is the only alternative to coal.
I just used nuclear here because MOST tree huggers-liberals,think nuclear is the answer.And it has Ooodles of issues that take Many years to deal with.
Actually, I even prefer fossil fuels over nuclear, even though I'm a tree hugger-liberal. Nuclear might be a bit better on carbon emissions when the reactor is built, but building new ones creates so much emissions, it takes 20 years to recover.
Another problem is that nuclear reactors take ages to start up and stop again, which is not practical as backup for solar and wind. Fossil fuels are at least needed until we have enough geothermal, hydro (incl. wave), biofuel, biogas, hydrogen, chemical storage (formic acid), thermal energy storage, battery storage and whatever I forgot or they think up next.
Then there is off-course the waste and the risk.
Eh so more electric cars will reduce demand?
I know you are not a engineer,but even you should be able to figure out that can't work.
groas violations of human rights, so the US or Europe don't need them as an ally.
If they can't sell us oil ,they will make their money on interest from loans.
We could afford to use fossil fuels if we could finish our pipelines and drill in otherwise useless lands like up north in alaska where there is nothing but woods.
The alaskan pipeline built long ago,was supposed to be such a wildlife disaster,ha,the animals love it,it is warm near the pipeline.
California has MILES of coast line,Why are they not looking into this tech?
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Instead of wasting all that coast line for half naked people to lay around and spread covid,there could be power plants there!
NO pollution! No noise that is not already there,and erosion control! WOW,
Kansas,could be using wind and solar to help of course.
Another non polluting power source,
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When I build a green house,yep,I will use geothermal to help with temp control.
Every bit you can use of it is better than none at all.
Here are some fun do-it-yourself builds on YouTube.
I had seen them before and it made me regret living next to a stationary ditch.
Maybe there are some ideas you can use:
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I DO NOT quite understand the amount of AMPS he is getting from that washing machine motor.
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How many Chernobyl’s do you know? One in the states, one in Japan, and one in Russia. Here, in Miami-Dade county, FP&L has been operating the local one over 50 yrs. Same in other cities around the state. And no pollution
You don't hear about the Mcquire plant here in NC getting to hot but it did a few years ago. The tree huggers were angry because a type of fish was dieing from getting caught in the cooling system water.So they put a screen over the intake. Worked fine for a while. Until the screen clogged up with little fishes.A employee told me about it.
Here is a long list of potential accidents and how to deal with them
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Yea,I know,I got dizzy after 10 minutes of readin!
I can't see a coal plant being any where near as dangerous to operate
They can't even take in water, without sucking up all the fishes
According to the Rainforest Action Network. For decades, climate change has been a global crisis that will impact every single person and living being on this planet. Now, according to the latest UN climate report, we have less than 10 years to cut global emissions in half.
Burning fossil fuels isn’t just bad for the climate, these industries also violate countless fundamental human rights. From frontline communities facing a fossil fuel pipeline on their land to Indigenous people facing fires in the Amazon to worker rights violations on palm oil plantations, the industries fueling climate change are also fueling injustice.
Coal, tar sands, and fracked gas show everything that’s wrong within the fossil fuel industry. These extraction practices are harming people and planet every day, and big banks are fueling this destruction of the planet and negligence of life.
So what’s so bad about coal, tar sands, and fracked gas? Basically everything, from start to the finish these fossil fuels are disastrous. For decades, climate change has been a global crisis that will impact every single person and living being on this planet. Now, according to the latest UN climate report, we have less than 10 years to cut global emissions in half.
Burning fossil fuels isn’t just bad for the climate, these industries also violate countless fundamental human rights. From frontline communities facing a fossil fuel pipeline on their land to Indigenous people facing fires in the Amazon to worker rights violations on palm oil plantations, the industries fueling climate change are also fueling injustice.
Coal, tar sands, and fracked gas show everything that’s wrong within the fossil fuel industry. These extraction practices are harming people and planet every day, and big banks are fueling this destruction of the planet and negligence of life.
So what’s so bad about coal, tar sands, and fracked gas? Basically everything, from start to the finish these fossil fuels are disastrous.
Like I said, “What you don’t see can be more dangerous.”
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chernobyl didn just happen and stop.It is still happening today.
Smog will go away at some point.
coal smoke can be filtered.Try filtering radiaton.
So we only would need half that exclusion zone filled with solar panels
and that would cost about 78 Billion Euro's. That would raise our national debt from 56.3% of GDP to 66.2% of GDP.
Jobs for all our unemployed people will pull that debt down soon enough.
Accidents happen. Even if the chance is 1:1M (historically proven it's much higher), when you multiply that risk by the number of nuclear power plants required, something catastrophic will happen at some point. Such catastrophes could cost more than the complete energy transition.
That's not worth it, because nuclear power is only a temporary solution, because the uranium will run out at some point. It's already becoming more and more expensive to mine the stuff.
Even if all those problems didn't exist, it still takes 10 years before any nuclear power plant has compensates his own build. But it first takes 10 years to build any. Then after 20 years, they are just as CO2 effecient as wind and solar. That's too late. We need to lower CO2 emissions ASAP.
Anyone with some money to spare can invest in their own solar panels,
lower their costs and be less dependent on power companies.
It's nice to have air-conditioning in a heat wave, when the government
is telling you not to use power or you can't afford it when power companies are charging you 100x the normal rate.
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There are al sorts of natural disasters, but it can also be a terrorist attack or a hacker or just basic human error.
BTW, instead of Kansas I could have picked West Virginia
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As far as anything else, we have to trust security will prevail. Every thing is a crapshoot. Hopefully we don’t roll snake eyes,
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I also don't like nuclear energy and my arguments are in line with the science on climate change. That uranium has to be mined, which also emits CO2.
A nuclear power plant takes a lot of energy to be built and maintained.
Then afterwards we have to keep the waste safe for the next 20,000 years.
On the short term nuclear is about as energy/CO2 efficient as wind power and even less than solar. In the long term nuclear has a horrible energy/CO2 efficiency, because keeping the waste safe also costs energy. Also, building nuclear power plants takes a long time and lots of materials. It takes about 10 years before a nuclear power plant compensates his own build. That's about 1-1.5 years for wind energy and 2 years for solar. However solar is cheaper
on maintenance.
Other than that, I agree with most of what you said.
All energy technology costs money, materials, energy and land to build and maintain. All energy technology has downsides like pollution, mineral shortages, exploitation of people and CO2 emissions. We just need to stop with the worst energy technologies first and expand on the best ones the most.
It doesn't require completely changing our life or have impact on the quality of our life. However climate change already impacts our life and it will only get worse. We can either choose to accept some changes now and prevent total catastrophe later or we can deny the truth until catastrophe proves us wrong.
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