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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 16:46 other posts 
Why money obsession is keeping you poor
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People confuse money for real resources.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Aug,25 16:38 other posts 
And now, some damn good news:
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 21,Aug,25 12:23 other posts 
Rich People Are NOT Fleeing The Country
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Responding to the lie that they keep telling you.
By phart [Ignore] 21,Aug,25 15:54 other posts 
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even the gerbiler richard geere left.

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uk can haver "her", although she claims to hate white men, she trys her damnest to look like 1.

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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 21,Aug,25 17:25 other posts 
If there are not tens of thousands of very rich and hundreds of wealthy leaving,
nothing is happening. Anecdotes are not strong evidence.

If the 99.9% that is staying is paying more taxes, it's worth it.
Raise those taxes, until 10% is going away. Show other countries that it's OK,
to follow the example, and they have nowhere to go.


By phart [Ignore] 21,Aug,25 15:50 other posts 
well new york is not going to break Trump and get a free windfall of money after all. all that effort to claim a crime was commited even when banks said they didn't loose a dime, at least new york won't get any free money. Trump still has the watch dog over his affairs and i don't think it is a problem for him anyway. perhaps a slight few liberals will follow their findings and learn more about things.

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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,Aug,25 06:01 other posts 
"Vanity of War" by Jesse Welles

The heroism of war is a lie, it’s not the bravest who fight, but those who have no other choice. It’s not the noble who die, but those who are the least equipped to avoid death.
The glory of war is a mask put on to cover the despair of people without hope.
War is the manifestation of a society that has lost its meaning. Every life is disposable for a national or political ideal when the rich wage war. It is the poor that die, the sacrifice is always made by those who have the least to gain. War is sold to the public as a necessary evil, the powerful and the rich paint it as a moral Crusade, but the Crusaders are the poor and the disenfranchised.

Every war is a war of fear. It is purposely portrayed to the people as a kind of ecstasy.
If they believe in it, they will likely believe in anything that releases them from the responsibility of creating their own destiny. It’s true that men love their fear, it reconciles them with their cowardice and shame. Men get the war they deserve!
By phart [Ignore] 19,Aug,25 08:58 other posts 
tell this to ukraine so they will stop fighting and end the war.its in their power to do so today, the war could end today, if they simply quit fighting. all they have left is a bombed out shell of a country that they will expect the rest of the world to rebuild.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,Aug,25 10:38 other posts 
THEY ARE DEFENDING THEMSELVES. RUSSIA ATTACKED THEM!!!

They remember what it's like to live under control of Russia.
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13% of Ukraine’s total housing stock has been damaged or destroyed.
It's not Gaza. They have lots of potential to recover themselves.

"Despite wartime challenges, Ukrainian manufacturing shows notable recovery,
with output nearing $97 billion and value-added close to $20 billion.
Production is rebounding firmly, particularly in early 2025."

In Ukraine, doctors, lawyers and professors are fighting right besides shop assistants
and road builders. Who do you think Russia is sending to fight?

All I hear is propaganda and ignorance. Your media is destroying your brain.

Tell me what you think Russia will do, if Ukraine fully surrenders tomorrow.
Do you think they won't do something that they will call "denazification"?
If you know how they treat their own citizens, then what will that look like?
Would you want to put yourself at the mercy of your conquer, like that?
By phart [Ignore] 19,Aug,25 12:33 other posts 
first off, we Americans are equipped to prevent invasions like this, we are allowed to own guns. read your history, that's why japan didn't invade, they knew there was a gun behind every blade of grass.

if you are alive, you can heal,recover and fight another day. if you are dead, you can't do shit,including defending your land or your family. just stop fighting. rest, russia can't afford to do alot right now, you can gather your men,your guns, and attack while they are asleep-drunk from their vodka they drank after they thought they won.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 20,Aug,25 03:43 other posts 
That's true. The second amendment is a good insurance against invasion.
The US is the last country to need it, because you also have a bigger military
than the next ten countries combined, but you do have that too.

However, have you ever considered that people who are preparing for battle and war all the time, often end up finding it? Some people prefer preparing for peace.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 19,Aug,25 06:22 other posts 
What is a "bard"?

A bard is traditionally a poet, musician, or storyteller who composes and performs songs, poems, or stories, often celebrating heroic deeds, history, or cultural traditions.
The term is most commonly associated with ancient Celtic cultures, but it has appeared
in other societies as well. Bards often played an important social role, preserving history and spreading stories orally.

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By CAT52! [Ignore] 15,Aug,25 18:55 other posts 
Today is the 207th day since the Trump inauguration. Remember that day, Jan 20, 2025? It was supposed to be the day The Clown was going to end the Ukrainian/Russian war. 🤣🤣🤣
By phart [Ignore] 15,Aug,25 20:59 other posts 
was rome built in a day? perhaps he underestimated the big ass mess biden left for him.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 16,Aug,25 05:49 other posts 
Your basis for blaming Biden for that war, is that he was weak on Russia.
I have not seen any POTUS in my lifetime being weaker on Russia than Trump.
My god man, are you blind and deaf? Your guy is humiliated again and again.

European leaders want to be involved, just so Trump doesn't FUCK IT UP.
Every time they see your clown near Putin, they hold their breath thinking "Will we be at nuclear war after this or did he gift Ukraine to Russia, for a weapons deal with Russia?"
That's maybe a bit of an overstatement, but not by much.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 16,Aug,25 07:13 other posts 
A promise is a promise
By Gntlmn [Ignore] 16,Aug,25 18:25 other posts 
He sucked the diarrhea from Putin's asshole for the cameras.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 17,Aug,25 08:08 other posts 
👍🏼
The exact same nauseating level, for sure.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 15,Aug,25 06:53 other posts 
A new song from Jesse Wells - The List
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 06,Aug,25 17:39 other posts 
Pope Leo XIV is the most liked famous person in the world.
Elon Musk is the most hated famous person in the world.
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By phart [Ignore] 09,Aug,25 19:04 other posts 
who did they survey?there was so much ad crap on the page i could not read it all.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Aug,25 07:03 other posts 
Gallup. It's in the link and on the chart. That's a reliable surveyor.
Good that you think about that. Don't forget it, when it's something that you like.

There was zero ad-crap when I opened the link. Maybe your PC is infected with adware.

Why Gallup Is Trusted:

- Scientific, transparent methodology: Gallup employs rigorous research methods—including probability-based random sampling, demographic weighting, and maintaining long-standing trend series—to ensure credible results across topics like politics, health, and well-being. Their Methodology Center emphasizes this commitment to quality data.

-Global reach: The Gallup World Poll covers over 150 countries, surveying approximately 1,000 people per country using in-person or telephone methods depending on coverage, allowing for internationally comparable data

- Low bias in reporting: Media Bias/Fact Check rates Gallup as “least biased” with “high credibility,” noting a 69% accuracy rating in political polling and only a slight right-leaning skew (~+0.6).
By phart [Ignore] 10,Aug,25 07:09 other posts 
turns out it was a large block of info related to cookies,i found the x to clear it. but still, they didn't ask folks here in the south i am sure.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Aug,25 11:16 other posts 
I'm sure they didn't ONLY ask folks in the south, but if you asked in Europe,
Elon's approval ratings would be even lower.
By dgraff [Ignore] 10,Aug,25 09:07 other posts 
What a load of crap 💩
By phart [Ignore] 10,Aug,25 09:40 other posts 
when i hear about the pope or the catholic church i just think of a bunch of old men and young boys with sore ass's . i can't see how a pope that really does nothing can be preferred over someone who is changing the world with technology.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Aug,25 11:21 other posts 
If it comes out that Pope Leo was hiding scandals,
you can be sure that he would drop all the way down.
At this moment, he appears clean to most people.
He also doesn't contribute to your Christo-fascism,
but speaks out against it. Everyone except you likes that.

This is evidence that you are a much smaller group than you want to believe.

People obviously think that Elon is changing the world more for the worse,
than for the good. Technology can be positive, but fascism isn't, ever.

Don't overestimate Elon's positive effect. He promised the world affordable electric cars. He is not delivering, he keeps building too expensive cars. He could easily deliver what he promises, he is the wealthiest man in the world, but he keeps failing on his promises. People take that in consideration when they judge him.
By phart [Ignore] 10,Aug,25 14:05 other posts 
to make a car in the US, Elon can't make them much cheaper and they last any length of time or be of any quality. and that is the last thing we need, poorly made us cars,
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Aug,25 16:44 other posts 
China can, so why not the wealthiest man in the world?
By phart [Ignore] 10,Aug,25 22:02 other posts 
because china has cheaper labor, cheaper raw materials, cheaper technology, than America. so Elon would have to make everything in china to make it cheaper to sell here, so he employees Americans and makes mid range priced cars.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 11,Aug,25 03:42 other posts 
Cheaper labor, sure.
Cheaper raw materials, probably somewhat. Why, though?
Cheaper technology? Not really, they just have lots of government investments.

Labor is only a tiny part of car manufacturing. Cars are mostly made by robots.
Elon could make cheaper electric cars, but he doesn't want to. He wants to be a trillionaire. He doesn't care about humanity or nature, he only cares about what makes him wealthy. He could once talk a good game, and he invested well, but now his mind is fucked, probably from all the drugs he's taking. Electric cars were a good investment. I told you many times that I liked him for making EV's cool. But, I also told you that EV's are not saving the world, they are just saving the car. If he is not delivering the cars that humanity needs, but keeps making the big, expensive ones, he's not doing anything positive. He's only taking lots of tax-dollars, to give rich people a good feeling for driving electric. That money could go to better goals.

I don't consider China 'good', but they are better than Elon.
They are actually investing in technology that humanity needs to survive.
ON EARTH, that is, while Elon is investing in humanity surviving on Mars.
He is wasting lots of money on that fantasy, while he takes money from people who need it. That's why I dislike him, besides being a fascist.

Of course, that's much to complicated for most people who answered the poll.
They just saw him turn X into a fascist conspiracy theorist's wet dream
and saw him do the Nazi salute. Those are good reasons to hate him.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 10,Aug,25 09:55 other posts 
I clicked on it and it was easy to read. I know that sexual abuse by Catholic priest is a shame on the Roman Catholic church but, in the whole, the Church does a lot of good. As far as asking everyone, you really think that Born Again Christians or Protestants would have a favorable view of the head of another religion? And while we are at it, you think the United States is that influential on the religious beliefs of the rest of the world? Most other societies believe Americans are a pagan society.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 11,Aug,25 15:52 other posts 
Actually, most people i know think that Americans are totally weird when it comes to religion. The jehovas, the Mormons, the evangelicals, the pentecostals, the televangelists,.... all kinds of shit cults.... all those are American phenomena. They are the face of America in the rest of the world because they're good at propaganda and proselytising. Europe is infested with such weirdos, particularly the Jehova maniacs and the Mormonic crooks.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 11,Aug,25 16:32 other posts 
There is a difference in Europe though. The extremely religious here are mostly decent people-loving people, nice people to have as neighbors. Even the politicians of those Christian 'extremists' are nice sympathetic people.
However, in the US, they are fanatical monsters. Their politicians are horrible back-stabbing liars, who abuse their power to destroy public schooling, with the goal of getting to indoctrinate other people's children. They also show an amount of hate, towards everyone outside of their cults, that has equals in history of very frightening times. In my country they are humble, in the US, they are downright evil.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 11,Aug,25 16:46 other posts 
Oh yes, I fully agree. I only said that the impression Europeans (and not only) have about American religion is that it's a cult or a bunch of cults, such as the ones I mentioned. They're schizophrenic.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 12,Aug,25 06:29 other posts 
Preaching Jesus, supporting Satan.
By dgraff [Ignore] 12,Aug,25 07:19 other posts 
I think it would have been hot to be a 14 year old boy in a Catholic Church and the priest asked me to his chambers and fondled me till I got good and hard then he takes my clothes off and fucks and sucks me till I cum in his mouth sounds like fun to me I wouldn’t have told anyone
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 12,Aug,25 08:48 other posts 
Some boys are fully straight and not ready for sex at 14.
The problem is that they are forced, and then get told that THEY sinned.
First they teach them everything related to sex is a sin, and then they r@pe them.
That has fucked up many kids, who suffer from it their whole lives.
However, some have said that the intolerant religion did more damage than the r@pe.

Don't confuse the feelings of 14 y.o. boys, with those of dirty old men, like us.
Many of them were much younger, by the way. Some were girls too.

Sex is fun for consenting adults. Kids might start experimenting before they are adults, but that's no reason for adults to be involved with that. That usually turns out to be very damaging. Not everyone is ready at age 16 or 18, some much earlier, but that's an arbitrary limit that we have set as society, to protect the children who are not.

Or is this some coping for your president, who has very like abused under@ged girls. Understand that being a forced prostitute has no safe age limit, to prevent damage.
He is weaponizing the legal system and the FBI, to keep himself out of prison.
Presidential immunity doesn't cover sex-crimes, from before taking office.


By Sir-Skittles [Ignore] 10,Aug,25 11:12 other posts 
By CAT52! [Ignore] 10,Aug,25 14:59 other posts 
Botched abortion eunuch.
By Sir-Skittles [Ignore] 10,Aug,25 19:11 other posts 
Failed at everything and married a predator
By CAT52! [Ignore] 11,Aug,25 17:25 other posts 
Jealous? He is twice your size


By leopoldij [Ignore] 09,Aug,25 13:54 other posts 
Great American patriotic song.
I bet that even phart would love it.
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,Aug,25 13:12 other posts 
Professor Jeffrey Sachs' speech at European Parliament
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An independent thinker, with decades of experience, saying what people need to hear.
Listen!


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jul,25 08:49 other posts 
Superman is 'woke' now!
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By CAT52! [Ignore] 30,Jul,25 10:17 other posts 
So what. I’m so tired of all these Repucker crap.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jul,25 10:35 other posts 
Have you seen the video? It's satire.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 31,Jul,25 11:30 other posts 
Yes, but the whole thing about the Clown and Biden and all the crap in this country’s politics is one boring joke. Nothing can happen until the midterms so why waste breaths on the likes of Dgraff, Phart or their like. If someone is ignorant of why things are happening (like food prices still very high), no amount of reasoning will change them. Let them sink just like the rest of us. Me? I’m going for a swim to survive 97*F days.
By phart [Ignore] 31,Jul,25 13:16 other posts 
well, that explains the tsunami
i am joking ok? i don't swim or the statue of liberty would need a air bottle

i know what is going on in the real world. we are in a transition from liberal bs policy's and regulations that cripple our country to more common sense.
you can't haul anything for any distance with a truck trying to get 65 mpg.
Under the Biden administration, NHTSA and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) had issued rules aiming to increase fuel efficiency significantly, reaching a fleet-wide average of 49 mpg for passenger cars and light trucks by 2026.
A 2024 NHTSA rule established standards aiming for 65 mpg for passenger vehicles by 2031.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 31,Jul,25 13:26 other posts 
So repeal them, but, this is going down as the hottest year in the Earth’s history. So, the EPA is repealing greenhouse gas prevention legislation. Why not? You can now be happy until nature re-fries your brain. Notice I said RE-fried.
You should NOT wait with resistance until the midterms.
You might not even have midterms, if it's up to Trump.
Disengagement is a sure way to lose your democracy.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 31,Jul,25 13:29 other posts 
Ananas, I’m tired. My country has developed one of the most ignorant, stupid, societies in the history of the planet. Let my kids and grandkids fight the ignoramuses that walk my land. I don’t care anymore.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 31,Jul,25 16:48 other posts 
I can empathize with that feeling, they are fucking tiresome.
But, democracy can be destroyed very quickly and it takes decades to restore.
Trump's presidency is staggering, the fall can come quickly, if everyone pushes.
You have a lot of years still in you. Don't live it out under fascism.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 31,Jul,25 18:14 other posts 
By dgraff [Ignore] 02,Aug,25 18:14 other posts 
Her age and her heavy drinking are her downfall she has one foot in the coffin ⚰️ all ready
By phart [Ignore] 31,Jul,25 20:00 other posts 
well, that's like a liberal,when the fighting gets tough they hide.

the younger generation can't even decide if they are male or female, and you expect them to care about democracy? hell, as long as they get a check each month, they are not going to give a shit.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Aug,25 05:42 other posts 
You're right actually, the large majority of the Democrats are lying down in defeat.
You know why? Because they took money from the wealthy just like Republicans.
The wealthy pay the Republicans to fight for them, and they pay the Democrats
to bend the knees for them. That's why the libs are WEAK.

The only true fighters are THE LEFT. I think even you can see that.

It never took any courage to be a Republican. The wealthy got their backs.
Never any consequences, no matter how many laws you break.
Get rich doing nothing.

At least the libs have to make believe that they are doing something for the people.
Republicans just say that lazy and brown people caused your poverty,
and that lower taxes for the rich will bring you (better paying) jobs.
Best lie ever, when you have enough stupid people to vote for you.

Being a MAGA politician is the easiest job ever. You go on TV, to spread lies
once a week, you don't have to think, or write complicated laws, you just break shit, never show up for work, while the money keeps flowing in from the wealthy, Israel and Russia, and the stupid cult members.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 01,Aug,25 11:08 other posts 
Phart, get a new line. Your shit is so old. You are one of the reasons I’m so bored with this shit politics your boy brought to what used to be a great country. Go pedal it somewhere else to people who gives a crap.
By phart [Ignore] 01,Aug,25 12:24 other posts 
wuss, giving up so soon on your socialist dream for America? great! 1 less road block to fixing the country!!

your shit is what is old.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Aug,25 14:27 other posts 
I don't think CAT ever had a socialist dream for America.
She just wants a standard democracy, instead of an oligarchy.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 01,Aug,25 14:40 other posts 
He broke the f__king country. If he’s so good why am I paying twice as much for food as the day of the election? Why are we constantly tittering on an economic disaster? For f__ks sake, even after six months in office he still can’t get his pet tariff program together? This feels like a bad flu where I get Montezumas revenge for the next two yrs. You think I gave up? I haven’t. I just know how to wait to the count of nine before getting up again.
By dgraff [Ignore] 02,Aug,25 18:22 other posts 
Because you’re living beyond your means because you live in one of the most expensive states because you’re old man left and you now have to foot the bills on your own you can’t have steak every night on a hot dog budget
By CAT52! [Ignore] 03,Aug,25 17:13 other posts 
Dgraff
I’m not living beyond my means. What gave you that idea?
Florida is very expensive, that’s true, but in certain areas only Mostly due to DeSantis and the damn snowbirds (mostly Repuckers) and home insurance.
Both Woody and I have good retirement and money in savings accounts. Either one of us can afford living alone.
Not on a hotdog budget but, I get my meats from GRAZIANO’S meat market (google it, their restaurants are to die for) their aged Argentine imported prime meats, including chorizo sausage and blood sausage are next to none except for Brazilian meats. Hotdogs are for the uneducated pallets.
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 03,Aug,25 21:12 other posts 
But I luv hotdogs, with mustard, onions and sauerkraut
By CAT52! [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 07:28 other posts 
okay
By dgraff [Ignore] 03,Aug,25 21:31 other posts 
It’s going to take a little time to straighten out MR magoos night mare just hang in there prices are coming down i can now buy eggs for 3 dollars a dozen milk is down to 4 dollars a gallon gas is holding steady at 2.98 a gallon heating oil is down to 2.79 per gallon like phart said we are in the transition stage
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 04:28 other posts 
Trump is about to take over Fed, so he can lower interest rates.
That will very much NOT lower your inflation.

Do you know what Trump did, to lower the oil price? He didn't increase US extraction. "As of August 2025, U.S. crude oil production is approximately 13.5 million barrels per day (bpd), marking a slight decrease from the record high of 13.63 million bpd reached in December 2024."

So, why is the price of oil down?

1. Increased OPEC+ Production
OPEC+ has raised oil production quotas, with an additional 547,000 barrels per day (bpd) scheduled for September 2025. This move aims to balance supply and demand but has contributed to a supply glut, putting downward pressure on prices.

2. Weakening U.S. Economic Indicators
Recent economic data from the U.S. suggests a slowdown, with growth falling below potential levels. This raises concerns about reduced oil demand, particularly in the OECD countries, leading to downward revisions in global consumption forecasts.

3. Trade Tensions and Tariffs
The looming August 1 tariff deadline imposed by President Trump has created uncertainty in global markets. Investors are concerned about potential disruptions in trade relationships, which could negatively impact oil demand and contribute to price declines.

So, Trump is destroying your economy and global investments, which results in lower oil prices. Oil prices increased under "Mr Magoo", because the economy was BOOMING. Simple supply vs demand.

You don't understand inflation. The prices of groceries aren't an effect of inflation, they are one of the indicators of inflation. The prices of food are determined by supply and demand. If harvests are destroyed, the price of food goes up. If some company destroys their competition and becomes a monopoly, they can raise the price of their product and their profit margin.
If energy become more expensive, because there is a global energy crisis, that will affect the cost of all products that require energy to manufacture.

Interest rates are also a demand and supply issue, of money itself. If you lower the interest rates, you increase the supply of money, not the demand. Then the "price" of money goes down. In other words, you decrease the value of money, making everything you want to buy with it more expensive, especially from products from countries with lower inflation, because your value decreasing currency buys less of it then.
By phart [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 22:12 other posts 
don't you realize the threat of us drilling our own oil reminds the middle east that we can do for ourselves and unless they sell oil to us cheaper than we can drill and pump it for, they won't sell us any at all? hurting their pocket books. duh.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 10:31 other posts 
Sure, now what did you not understand of these numbers?
13.63 million barrels per day in December 2024, $71.72 per barrel.
13.50 million barrels per day currently, $66.85 per barrel.
Why was the oil price higher under Biden, while the US produced more oil then?

I'll tell you, it's DEMAND. When the economy cools down, demand for oil declines, resulting in lower prices.

One example is the 2008 financial crisis. Before the crisis: In mid‑2008, crude oil prices (Brent and WTI) peaked at record highs of around $140–$147 per barrel due to strong demand and market speculation.
During the crisis: As the global financial system collapsed and demand plummeted, prices fell dramatically, reaching around $30–$40 per barrel by the end of 2008 and early 2009.
Recovery: Prices gradually recovered as economies stabilized, climbing back to the $70–$80 range by late 2009 and eventually over $100 in subsequent years.

You might think that Trump is doing a good job, when they oil price goes down, but unless he achieved anything on the demand side of energy
(not just oil), the oil price going down is an indicator of the economy cooling down.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 07:31 other posts 
Those are higher than when he took office. So, how long is it going to take for him to prove his promise, “I will drop prices on the first day in office “?
I bet it’ll get better on January 21, 2029.
By dgraff [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 07:42 other posts 
Those prices are definitely not high then when he took office get your facts straight
Eggs were 6 dollars a dozen
Milk was 5 dollars a gallon
Gas was 4 dollars a gallon at least
Heating Oil was 5 dollars a gallon
You Democrats are all alike you lie through your teeth and hope America 🇺🇸 don’t remember
By CAT52! [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 20:41 other posts 
Dgraff, quoting a few items whose price went down, don’t cut it. The truth is:
“ Upon his inauguration, Donald Trump made lowering the cost of living a key focus of his economic agenda. However, the economic reality regarding price changes following his inauguration presents a mixed picture:
Inflation: Overall inflation eased slightly during the first few months of his administration, according to government data. However, this didn't necessarily mean prices were decreasing across the board, rather that the rate of increase in prices slowed. More recent reports indicate inflation is once again ticking up, with consumer prices in June 2025 showing a 2.6% increase compared to the previous year.”
By dgraff [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 07:49 other posts 
How about you try this
Put your electronics down grab your bifocals and go out shopping for the day see what things actually cost instead of posting google look ups and consumer reports and phoney numbers and percentages from the left side Marcy works for a food chain she tells me every day what is up or down cody8789 can tell you firsthand because he works for a food chain also don’t forget your bifocals so you see what I’m seeing
By phart [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 08:03 other posts 
actually walking around in a store will open your eyes to the truth. also, go by what stuff brings second hand, used cars and trucks are starting to drop. there is a dodge with a cummins engine in it that is actually priced well locally i might even consider, a couple years back i couldn't have. food is coming down. gas is what bothers me, the whole sale prices are not high but the stations keep it jacked up. annoying to say the least
By dgraff [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 10:24 other posts 
Have you noticed that every time @cat52@ posts her numbers from her google search they are way higher than the look up that we get
It just goes to show you their are left look ups and right depending on the party you are registered under
By CAT52! [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 10:57 other posts 
Yeah, like fudging the employment numbers. I Google to make sure I'm right and not giving my impression. You all come here to tell me what the price of potatoes is around your potato farms. I go with what's around me too. The difference is that I back it up. Why did you complain so much about Biden's economy yet, now, you've got the same or worse economy and you are defending it?
By CAT52! [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 10:50 other posts 
I do shop everyday or so. Why do you think I'm complaining. Prices are steady or going up. Inflation is going up. Available jobs are at an all time low since Covid. And now we are getting to the effects of tariffs.
Cody8789 works for a food chain. What does that mean? I shop at several food chains. I also gas up my cat. My dry cleaning is not a national chain, but, I go to Texas Roadhouse and Carrabba's and Long Horn. I also go to Graziano's. Dollar Tree is no longer a dollar and going to Disney costs more than my mortgage and insurance combined. That is not Biden's fault. Six months after Biden was in office you said that he was in charge. Well, your fuckup has been in office for six months. What has he done for you and me? Am I living better? Am I saving more money? Is FEMA ready to help me during this hurricane season? Are you able to get medicine cheaper?
Come on, Dgraff, show me how wrong I am with or without glasses.
By dgraff [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 11:06 other posts 
Every thing is going great in Pennsylvania prices are dropping steadily i don’t know what you’re seeing but you live in one of the most expensive states to live in the cost of living is through the roof down there
By CAT52! [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 12:27 other posts 
Yes, we are an expensive state or, more accurately, South Florida is. But, we make a hell of a lot more money than in old Penn. It's all relative. If you are happy so be it, but, even Repuckers are complaining, and loudly too, about the price of goods.
I just paid $11+ for a 12 pack of toilet paper. A year ago it was $6.50 or less. Eggs went down, but I just paid $9+ for 18 eggs.
All relative but still....
And what do you think about all the Chinese stuff that can't be replaced without paying through the nose?
By phart [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 11:14 other posts 
why is it when i went to wally world this morning, there was rollback price tags on many grocery items? why is the bird feed i bought hasn't went up in the past 6 months? milk has held good and not went up.
when i say things are as good or better now, i go by what i see in the store myself with my own eyes.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 12:32 other posts 
And what do you think I do? Roll back prices are nothing more than loss leader items. It's called "a sale" to get you in to buy..
By CAT52! [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 12:36 other posts 
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By phart [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 11:19 other posts 
you complain about prices and you eat in places that i can only dream of eating at, what the hell? you must be pretty well off to eat at carrabbas and texas roadhouse on a regular basis.
i eat at a place like that once a year maybe for my birthday or on the day marking a year longer after my accident when i am depressed as hell and need something good to cheer me up. .you are talking 30 buck plus meals for 1 at a place like that by the time you tip the waitress that lets your sweet tea go dry twice.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 12:50 other posts 
I don't go alone and me and my partner spend between $60 and $90 per outing. Can I do that every day? No. Usually it's two or three times/month. But, I'm not well off. I'm comfortable, but, like everyone else, I like to save money. I believe in the dictum that says you can't take it with you. If I'm able I try to give myself some pleasures.
By phart [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 16:01 other posts 
i just carried my laundry detergent downstairs and sure enough, the 128 oz jug i bought last February is the exact same price as the jug i bought this morning. equaling out to 4.2 cents per ounce.
By dgraff [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 17:54 other posts 
Yeah things are definitely coming down she’s just suffering from democrat paranoia every thing she complains about is all in her head she’s that stubborn she’s going to file taxes on her social security this year
By phart [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 21:50 other posts 
By dgraff [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 17:48 other posts 
I think they sell an egg that vibrates for giving yourself pleasure
By CAT52! [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 19:38 other posts 
I have several sex toys, but, we are talking about food prices
By dgraff [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 20:40 other posts 
Oh yeah I forgot the food prices well they don’t bother me to much if I don’t have the money for food I just grab a gun off my wall and go to the top of my mountain and shoot me some thing to eat squirrels are plentiful and rabbits deer 🦌 walk through my yard at night I have black bears in the area so I won’t starve
By phart [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 21:49 other posts 
the 1 time i ate a piece of bear meat, my mother had no friggin idea how to cook it and that was the awfullest shit i have ever eat in my life.

i will admit, much as annas will be in disbelief, i aint much on killin things and guttin them and skinnin them,. i would probably eat alot of corn and beans and shit.
By dgraff [Ignore] 06,Aug,25 06:51 other posts 
There is an art to cooking bear meat and you have to beat the meat with a braising hammer to soften it up
Never let it be said that i don’t beat my meat
By CAT52! [Ignore] 06,Aug,25 07:58 other posts 
Well, it's full of MAGAs here.
By dgraff [Ignore] 06,Aug,25 08:23 other posts 
But you can’t eat them they’re too tough to chew
By phart [Ignore] 06,Aug,25 10:26 other posts 
yea, but bears don't eat liberals, because they are made up of nothing but bullshit and hot air!!
By dgraff [Ignore] 06,Aug,25 13:54 other posts 
For sure
By dgraff [Ignore] 31,Jul,25 16:21 other posts 
blow me sweetheart
By CAT52! [Ignore] 31,Jul,25 18:13 other posts 
I wouldn’t want to taste PR ass
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 31,Jul,25 18:55 other posts 
Pr ?
By CAT52! [Ignore] 01,Aug,25 10:52 other posts 
Puerto Rican
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 01,Aug,25 12:05 other posts 
By dgraff [Ignore] 31,Jul,25 23:28 other posts 
I feel sorry for you after all the corruption all the government waist all the misuse of power and you still side with the democrats then i feel so sorry for you i would love to see your whole house of cards come crashing down
Obama in jail
The Clinton’s in jail
The Biden’s all in jail
Bill gates in jail
Oprah in jail
Kamala Harris in jail
Whoopi Goldberg in jail
And a whole bunch more that I’m forgetting
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Aug,25 05:59 other posts 
"misuse of power"
Openly supports imprisoning everyone who ever made him angry.

Legendary!
By dgraff [Ignore] 01,Aug,25 08:59 other posts 
In your eyes we should forget about Biden hiring thousands of armed IRS agents just to invade a man’s property but i will never forget
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Aug,25 09:18 other posts 
IRS agents go after people who BREAK THE LAW. They are literally tax-police.
They will only 'invade a man’s property' if he cheats on his taxes.
That's not Biden breaking the law, that's him upholding the law.
If there is no one making sure people pay their taxes, no one will.
And then your country goes bankrupt. It's already pretty close to it.

You probably are a tax cheat, but that's you breaking the law, not Biden.
Throwing Biden in jail, so they don't go after you? Are you fucking crazy?
If you think that Trump will let you scam taxes, you're really dumb.
He only lets the wealthy do that, NOT YOU. He needs YOU to pay MORE.

What do you think tariffs are? TAXES! ON YOU!

What about Oprah? She's at best a centrist. What did she do?
And Whoopi Goldberg? She's damn right-wing and ignorant as fuck.
Did you just thrown in some black women, for good measure?

Even if the government only pays for the military and the police,
that money still needs to come from somewhere.
And then who will pay for everything else? People!

It's either taxes, or you will need to pay for everything you want to use.
Want to drive this road? $5 please! Want to cross this bridge? $10 please.
That's much more expensive, because it's incredibly inefficient.
That would completely destroy the US, the opposite of MAGA.

Are you really this brainwashed or just acting like it?
By phart [Ignore] 01,Aug,25 11:01 other posts 
personally knowing a gun toting irs agent about 10 years ago for a short time, you are naive. they are not just going after the guilty. they intimidate anyone that they want to. i just read yesterday that just using a certain suv as a company-personal vehicle can trigger a audit because of it's literal physical weight. not value,weight. why? how lame is that? loop holes they can jump thru to harrass people
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Aug,25 14:33 other posts 
If you don't want the government to get it from the billionaires,
they come get it from the average American and the poor.
It was your choice to have them do the latter.

They also don't need that many IRS agents, to go after normal Americans,
because you don't have an army of lawyers hiding your money
and defending you, when you break the law.

By letting Trump fire IRS agents, you are securing yourself as the targets.
Now the wealthy can cheat even more, while you get punished for a mistake.

Did DOGE find even one big wealthy tax-cheat?
No, they canceled grandma's social security.
If you don't learn from that, you never will.

Anything to say about dgraff wanting to imprison everyone you dislike?
By dgraff [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 07:48 other posts 
Those IRS agents were Biden’s personal army and were hired to do nothing else but go after trump I hope everyone of them run out of unemployment and have to live in a refrigerator box under a bridge
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 16:29 other posts 
That's how Trump operates, Biden sent gutless cowards like Merrick Garland.
There was no need for extra IRS agents to go after Trump.
Trump is not that smart. They had all the evidence that they needed.
By dgraff [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 17:48 other posts 
What evidence he’s not in jail for anything he’s no more a criminal than Biden is
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 10:50 other posts 
Because he had the supreme court give the president immunity
and you lot were stupid enough to make him president again.

Biden is indeed not a criminal. Republicans tried to manufacture evidence against him, but were proven to be liars.

None of the legal cases were won by Trump. His defense didn't even have any response to all the evidence against Trump. They're strategy was obstruction and delay, combined with reasoning that Trump had the right to do what he did, instead of rejecting that he did it. Trump would have certainly lost all his cases and would have been found guilty of all or most charges, because he was NOT allowed to do what he did. Unfortunately, he was effective in his delay strategy, because he became president before verdict was achieved. His legal cases were either dropped or paused until he's president no longer. The biggest crime Trump has been accused of is criminal conspiracy to undermine American democracy.

Specifically, Trump was charged with the crimes:
- Conspiracy to defraud the United States (18 U.S.C. § 371)
Max: 5 years in prison and fines.
- Conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding (18 U.S.C. § 1512(k))
Max: 20 years in prison.
- Obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding (18 U.S.C. § 1512(c))
Max: 20 years in prison.
- Conspiracy against rights (18 U.S.C. § 241)
Max: 10 years, but up to life or death penalty if the conspiracy involves kidnapping, sexual abuse, or death (not alleged in Trump’s case).

Trump was also charged with:
Willful retention of national defense information (Violations of the Espionage Act)
- Charged with 31 counts, each related to keeping a separate classified document marked “SECRET” or “TOP SECRET” at Mar‑a‑Lago without authorization.
These documents included materials on U.S. nuclear weapons, military capabilities, vulnerabilities, and foreign intelligence reports—posing significant national security risks.
Each count carries up to 10 years in prison (though there are no mandatory minimums).

Since there were several TOP SECRET documents still unaccounted for, Trump was still under investigation. He is not telling what he did with these documents. If they would find out that he sold them or gave them to a hostile but not wartime adversary (e.g., Russia, China in peacetime), that would probably be charged as espionage.
Each count carries up to 10 years in prison.

The whole world saw Trump lie about those documents, over and over, until he admitted to have them, so don't try any stupid make believe that he's not GUILTY AS FUCK!
By dgraff [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 10:59 other posts 
Your opinion means nothing to me
When you move to the United States 🇺🇸 and do it legally or ice will send you right back then you have your say until then keep your opinions to yourself
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 11:00 other posts 
What opinions? These are facts!
By CAT52! [Ignore] 01,Aug,25 11:03 other posts 
Dgraff, as usual, you have to reach into the past to come up with any argument. Who gives a f__k if all those people (who have not been prosecuted for any crimes or found guilty of any) get incarcerated? On the other hand, we have a CONVICTED FELON serving as our President right now.
You have the balls (and I’m using this as a figure of speech, not a statement of fact) to still think this Clown has your interest at heart? Sad.
By phart [Ignore] 01,Aug,25 12:26 other posts 
dummy, if Trump fails, so does America,so for him to succeed the country has to as well. so his motives indirectly help America if he has any other motives besides helping the country. at his age, he could very well have give up and sat on the porch like you have admitted to choosing to do and lived well the rest of his life. but no,he puts himself out there to stand up for America,and you can't see the trees for the forest.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 01,Aug,25 14:45 other posts 
If Trump fails, America keeps its democracy.
Trump is an incredible narcissist, he only cares about himself.
The only reason he became president again is to save himself from prison.
The whole world saw him be a traitor and break the law about 100 times.
In any real democracy, he would have been behind bars the next day.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 01,Aug,25 18:42 other posts 
Yeah, Phart. You keep believing that. You poor fool.
By phart [Ignore] 02,Aug,25 00:06 other posts 
i think the rest of you are the fools. you can't understand how undermining our energy sector with regulations and so much other crap the dems do to us will bring us down
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 02,Aug,25 05:32 other posts 
Your energy sector is running on obsolete technology that's killing humanity,
but the buffoon keeps investing in that old tech, while not investing in new tech.
You're destroying your competitiveness with the rest of the world.
In how many ways do you want to fuck over your own country?
It's not America First, it's America last.

Trump might be Israel First, or Russia First, but not America First.

Look at his tariffs; the EU and the US now have a 15% tax on trade.
The US also has tariffs with all other countries in the world.
The EU doesn't have tariffs with the rest of the world.
We can still trade with EVERYONE ELSE, tax-free.
How do you think that will turn out? Good for the US?
By phart [Ignore] 02,Aug,25 12:59 other posts 
frankly, there is not much if anything that comes from europe that we can't make or do without here in the US so i don't care.

obsolete tech for energy? a electron can flow thru a copper wire now same as it did a 100 years ago. coal can heat water to make steam to turn a turbine to generate electricity or it ,or the water can spin a water wheel. same as a 100 years ago.
this new tech is expensive and not recyclable without alot of expanse, so it cost more on both ends.by the time a solar panel pays for it's self, it has lost alot of it's capacity.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 02,Aug,25 14:20 other posts 
The new tech is much cheaper and it doesn't kill everyone.
Solar and wind are already much cheaper than fossil fuels,
even while fossil fuels are heavily subsidized.

You keep forgetting the cost of the damage. The climate is putting higher costs on your country every single year. You can cancel FEMA, but that means that people just end up homeless for longer. That's a massive burden on your economy.

The risk isn't just climate change, it's also old-fashioned pollution.
There are areas around your fossil fuel extraction plants, where citizens have a 200x higher risk of getting cancer, than in the safest areas of your country.
That's a massive burden on your economy.

Maybe you could make everything that we can, but if that
would have been better, you would have already done it.
It's what we buy from you, that you should worry about.
We can also make everything you make, in many cases better.
Your economy will come to a screaming halt, if we do that.
If you keep making things on coal energy, we might stop buying those.
Your citizens are poorer every day. They don't spend enough to keep your economy alive. You only think about the supply side, the job creators, but do you even understand the demand side of the economy?
People actually need to buy your overpriced crap.
By phart [Ignore] 02,Aug,25 20:34 other posts 
well, we have starving people here in the US, so what food you don't buy, our citizens can eat. weapons you don't buy, can go in our stock piles.
cars you won't buy because you regulate everyone to roller-skates, that number was not relevant to the big picture.
cotton for your clothes, we will just use it here if you don't buy it. sure there will be growing pains.
but we would survive just fine
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 04:58 other posts 
Do you have starving people in the US? Now that Trump is in office?

Americans are not starving because of a lack of food,
but because of a lack of MONEY.

"Weapons you don't buy, can go in our stock piles"
Have you never heard of increasing or decreasing production output?

The reason we don't buy American cars is not regulation,
but because they are too heavy, too big and guzzle fuel.
They don't fit in our hundreds of years old cities.
If you made cars that we would want to buy, we would.
Well, maybe not if they're 15% more expensive than European
and Asian cars.

The reason we do not buy American beef IS because of regulation,
but also because we can make beef that does comply with regulation CHEAPER.

America became the #1 economy in the world, because you produced stuff that other countries wanted to buy. Even though you outsourced a lot of your production to China, you still earned most of the profits. That is changing, because your innovation strength is dwindling, while China's innovation strength is skyrocketing. They don't need you anymore.

Your economy is heavily dependent on domestic consumption, so your economy would be able to survive on your own production and consumption. The problem is that everything is owned by billionaires.
They will leave you, when you're not making them enough money.
You have sacrificed a lot for them to become this wealthy, but that didn't result in any loyalty towards YOU. They screw you for a dollar.

At least Biden tried to invest in education, science and US manufacturing, but Trump thinks he can solve it with tariffs, while he's destroying education and science. He thinks US manufacturing will come back without government investments. That's stupid, you cannot win from China which is investing trillions. Your billionaires are not going to invest in your country, just because of nationalism. They only invest to make more profits for themselves. If their money makes a better return on investment in Mexico, Canada, China or Europe, they'll invest there. If you don't provide them with smart people, who can invent their intellectual property, they'll leave the US for that too.

You WON'T survive just fine. The term MAGA worked, because you know the US is in trouble. Your empire is failing, and Trump is accelerating it.
He's too dumb to understand the causes, and you are following him blind towards utter destruction. Why? Because you like his ignorance and hatred.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 13:02 other posts 
That, Pharr, is a huge problem for our farmers and our manufacturing. Selling less because we can't consume the excess doesn't pay for the established bills like loans, payroll, structural costs or storage. Utilities the same.
By Cunt_Man [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 21:08 other posts 
I voted for trump
By phart [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 22:22 other posts 
By Cunt_Man [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 22:26 other posts 
americans to the bone my friend.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 11:04 other posts 
Voting for Trump, after he tried to steal the presidency,
that's ANTI-American.

Once The Constitution was your pride,
but you crapped on it, for whole the world to see.

You once thought of yourself as the shining light of democracy,
now you are openly supporting authoritarianism.

SHAME ON YOU!
By Cunt_Man [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 13:10 other posts 
I am just so satisfied.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 15:16 other posts 
I understand, cucks get off on getting humiliated.
By Cunt_Man [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 16:16 other posts 
totally satisfied
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 16:31 other posts 
You don't get rattled easy, I like that.
By Cunt_Man [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 17:52 other posts 
what? To whom?
By CAT52! [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 13:03 other posts 
Then you are a count.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 02,Aug,25 07:14 other posts 
Is our energy sector failing? Why can’t strong energy policy and regulations coexist? Name one occasion where the energy sector got hurt.
By phart [Ignore] 04,Aug,25 22:14 other posts 
biden was found to be unfit for trial for his crimes, but yet he pardoned people. duh, any person with common sense should be able to look at that and see a problem,
By CAT52! [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 10:37 other posts 
And your boy didn't pardon anyone?
By phart [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 11:20 other posts 
Trump wasn't declared unfit for trial. big difference.you know your ilk keeps reminding us he is a felon. had he not been fit for trial he could not wear that. duh
By CAT52! [Ignore] 05,Aug,25 12:55 other posts 
But he was and now, no matter what he's a convicted felon. Not being fit for trial is not the same as being found guilty. Even if Biden was found fit for trial, a jury has to find him guilty before he would be a convicted felon. Oh, wait, isn't that what happened to Donny Boy? The Clown?
What crimes? Still talking about the alleged corruption case with Hunter?
Every accusation that Republicans threw at him vaporized.
His accusers were caught fabricating evidence and using a perjurious witness.

When was Biden found to be unfit to stand trial?
Are you talking about Special Counsel Robert Hur’s report (February 2024)
on Biden’s handling of classified documents, which declined to prosecute him, noting Biden’s memory lapses. That report did not declare Biden legally unfit
to stand trial. The transcripts of the interviews showed Robert Hur to be misrepresenting Biden's mental state.

There was no legal standing to accuse Biden of any criminal wrongdoing.
Biden did mishandle classified documents. After leaving the vice presidency, he retained and disclosed some classified materials related to Afghanistan and other topics. These were found at his home and former office. However, Hur concluded there was insufficient evidence to prove criminal intent — a necessary element for prosecution under U.S. law (e.g., willful retention under 18 U.S.C. § 793).

That is completely different for Trump. INTENT was the least of it.
Key Alleged Crimes:
- Willful Retention of National Defense Information
Keeping dozens of classified documents after leaving the presidency, in violation of the Espionage Act (18 U.S.C. § 793(e)).
- Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice
Working with aides to conceal documents from federal investigators and the grand jury (18 U.S.C. § 1512(k)).
- Obstruction of Justice / Withholding Documents
Direct acts to obstruct the investigation, such as moving boxes and providing false assurances (18 U.S.C. §§ 1512(b), 1512(c)).
- Concealing or Hiding a Document
Knowingly hiding records to prevent them from being found in an official investigation (18 U.S.C. § 1512(c)).
- False Statements and Representations
Causing lawyers to certify falsely that all classified materials were returned (18 U.S.C. § 1001).


By #623135 22,Jun,21 10:16
Phart posted
So they are already having issues with charging electric cars?
Sheesh,what about in 5 years? The power company are not permited to build new power plants.Solar and wind are going to be important to keep the grid up. But that didn't work in Texas did it?
They make a lot of energy in Texas,but how many folks died over the winter this past 1?

Angel1227!
So a private, for profit, company did not plan on a hard winter so their production of electricity was not sufficient? And this utility, regulated by the states, failed to meet the demands? This state (Texas) governed by Repukers was not regulated correctly so this company spent less on production and got richer because of it? This sounds very much like a Repuker business idea.
By phart [Ignore] 22,Jun,21 22:13 other posts 
Regulation? Hahaha,look at californicated, that is what happens when you over regulate. No one can trim trees off the lines, the power company has to cut power off in high winds,that is the result of Liberal-democrat regulation. Hug the trees,to hell with the humans.
I fault the power companys in texas to a point but I also fault the citizens for lack of preparedness.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 23,Jun,21 08:10 other posts 
The power companies in Texas are now have trouble providing enough power for air-conditioning. The problem in the winter were not a fluke. It happens again only months later. Prices for power skyrocketed again. Many people again received electric bills for thousands of dollars. Texas' power market is not a good example of 'good' deregulation.

Face it, sometimes you need regulation, especially for basic facilities like power.
By #623135 23,Jun,21 12:19
Did I mention California? Was this the subject of the conversation? This is about Texas and it’s power company. Phart reply to this or open another thread.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Jun,21 12:27 other posts 
I posted a link to a news report about california having issues with electric car charging,
And I then mentioned the issues in texas with electricity.
What everyone is missing here is the fact there is NOT enough electricity being produced to meet CURRENT demand.As Ananas has indicated.So imagine if you will,5-10 years from now,when there is GREATER demand? What a mess we are in for.
Regulation is not the solution. that is how you GOT TO THIS POINT. To many regulations preventing new power plants being built and trying to snuff out coal,a effective energy source.
By #623135 23,Jun,21 16:34
Phart do you think power companies sat down in the 1920’s and said, “We are building for the future so, in 1945, we stop because there’ll be too many regulations to conduct business”?
You think that if they are running short they won’t try to catch up? The regulations you protest are there to protect the people and the environment. But, knowing how you think, fuck that. Let coal continue to pollute. We’ll be dead by the time our grandkids die of poisoned air.
By phart [Ignore] 23,Jun,21 19:40 other posts 
newest nuclear power plant started in 2016.
only registered users can see external links
Only 2 under construction according to this chart.
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The US shut down how many? lets see
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Now, we shut down 39 and we are building 2. Does that sound like regulations are helping any? 2, there are 50 states. So state regulation is not changing anything where it may be either.
If you want coal gone,you need to have a replacement handy before hand.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 02:17 other posts 
Maybe those old reactors have become very dangerous over time and/or they are not as efficient as the new ones.
Nuclear power is not the solution. There are 80 sites in the United States where nuclear waste is stored. Some of it is stored temporary in a location that is not safe long term. The best uranium sites are already running out and it's getting ever more expensive to mine the stuff.

That waste has to be looked after for the next 20,000 to 1M years, before it's safe. Humanity probably kills itself before that or there might be a few survivors that don't know how to keep the waste safe and radiation will finish them off. But who cares, right?

only registered users can see external links

Like nuclear is the only alternative to coal.
By phart [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 09:18 other posts 
Well Ananas, at least we have some common ground, I h@te nuclear and wish people would have enough sense to study other ideas.
I just used nuclear here because MOST tree huggers-liberals,think nuclear is the answer.And it has Ooodles of issues that take Many years to deal with.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 12:27 other posts 
Glad we agree

Actually, I even prefer fossil fuels over nuclear, even though I'm a tree hugger-liberal. Nuclear might be a bit better on carbon emissions when the reactor is built, but building new ones creates so much emissions, it takes 20 years to recover.
Another problem is that nuclear reactors take ages to start up and stop again, which is not practical as backup for solar and wind. Fossil fuels are at least needed until we have enough geothermal, hydro (incl. wave), biofuel, biogas, hydrogen, chemical storage (formic acid), thermal energy storage, battery storage and whatever I forgot or they think up next.

Then there is off-course the waste and the risk.
By #623135 24,Jun,21 09:43
Phart,,, only registered users can see external links
By phart [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 11:47 other posts 
qoute "Reducing the overall demand for electricity makes it easier for renewables like solar and wind to fill the gap, and targeted projects can reduce demand on the grid at peak times."

Eh so more electric cars will reduce demand?
I know you are not a engineer,but even you should be able to figure out that can't work.
By #623135 24,Jun,21 12:29
I don't pretend to be an engineer, but, I do know electric vehicles will not burn fossil fuels and pollute. If (and it looks like they are) the local electric companies can't handle the load they will have to upgrade. Eventually they will reach parity. Again, I say to you, if a problem exists, there will have to be an adjustment. Electric companies are allowed by government to be monopolies, but, they can loose it all if they can't provide proper service.
Coal is pretty much done as an industry. Not just because of regulations, but because investors and insurers are now backing away. If we all switch to electric cars soon, there's definitely a challenge to provide that electricity, but the overall power consumption will go down. Electric cars are more efficient. Now, I'm not talking about Tesla's that do 0 to 60 in 2 s and are comparable to a Porsche, but sensible electric cars that are appearing now.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 10:57 other posts 
It's nice to see that the world is moving towards new energy solutions, such as electric cars. We can't afford burning fossil fuels any longer. I'm glad to see that everyone agrees on that. Perhaps Saudi Arabia will be unhappy, but that country is a militant dictatorship with
groas violations of human rights, so the US or Europe don't need them as an ally.
By phart [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 11:50 other posts 
Um, who do you think backed the loans for the solar farms around here? Saudi Arabia.
If they can't sell us oil ,they will make their money on interest from loans.
We could afford to use fossil fuels if we could finish our pipelines and drill in otherwise useless lands like up north in alaska where there is nothing but woods.
The alaskan pipeline built long ago,was supposed to be such a wildlife disaster,ha,the animals love it,it is warm near the pipeline.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 12:00 other posts 
Glad you agree.
By #623135 24,Jun,21 12:30
Fossil fuels promote pollution. Doesn't that get through your head?
By phart [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 16:47 other posts 
Eh yea,some,but nuclear wipes out MILES of earth for 100's of years. Check out Chernobyl sometime.

California has MILES of coast line,Why are they not looking into this tech?
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Instead of wasting all that coast line for half naked people to lay around and spread covid,there could be power plants there!
NO pollution! No noise that is not already there,and erosion control! WOW,
Kansas,could be using wind and solar to help of course.
Another non polluting power source,
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By #623135 24,Jun,21 21:05
Every time I think I’ve heard all your dippy theories, you come up with a new one.
By phart [Ignore] 24,Jun,21 22:05 other posts 
Same here! No theorys posted, those are technology's already being tested and shown to work,perhaps just not as efficient as others.
I actually use some old equipment that is electric that was made way back before it was "cool" So I research alternative energy sources and what not for that reason. If I lived near a active stream,you better believe there would be a water wheel turning a old Gm alternator to charge back up batterys.
When I build a green house,yep,I will use geothermal to help with temp control.
By #610414 25,Jun,21 07:37
If I lived next to a moving stream, I, too, would use it for power, however, you would need several deep discharged batteries and a back up energy system in case you deplete your batteries too fast. I would also go upstream a few hundred yards and divert some of the water through pipes to have energy free house water.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 25,Jun,21 12:15 other posts 
Just some old car batteries are better than nothing. It's free energy.
Every bit you can use of it is better than none at all.
That sound very cool. I would love to do some tinkering like that.

Here are some fun do-it-yourself builds on YouTube.
I had seen them before and it made me regret living next to a stationary ditch.
Maybe there are some ideas you can use:
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By phart [Ignore] 25,Jun,21 13:32 other posts 
the third link i watched the whole thing, very interesting,will get the other 2 tonight.
I DO NOT quite understand the amount of AMPS he is getting from that washing machine motor.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 26,Jun,21 05:46 other posts 
Here they say 600W should be possible. A washing machine motor will use 400 to 1300 watts. They might not be as efficient to generate the same amount, but can still do the job pretty well, as it seams and should be very easy to obtain.

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By #623135 28,Jun,21 17:51
Phart
How many Chernobyl’s do you know? One in the states, one in Japan, and one in Russia. Here, in Miami-Dade county, FP&L has been operating the local one over 50 yrs. Same in other cities around the state. And no pollution
By phart [Ignore] 28,Jun,21 18:03 other posts 
3 mile island here in the US. Prompted a nation wide process of adding new cooling systems.1 of my neighbors worked on the crew that went around building it. Made a fortune doing it.

You don't hear about the Mcquire plant here in NC getting to hot but it did a few years ago. The tree huggers were angry because a type of fish was dieing from getting caught in the cooling system water.So they put a screen over the intake. Worked fine for a while. Until the screen clogged up with little fishes.A employee told me about it.

Here is a long list of potential accidents and how to deal with them
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Yea,I know,I got dizzy after 10 minutes of readin!

I can't see a coal plant being any where near as dangerous to operate
By #623135 29,Jun,21 08:16
Sometimes it’s not what you can see but what you can’t
So what's your point? Just let any company kill whatever part of nature is in their way, because US companies are completely inadequate in solving any problem ever?
They can't even take in water, without sucking up all the fishes
By #623135 29,Jun,21 09:23
Ananas2xlekker my point is that all companies have a responsibility to protect the environment. People are part of the environment. In this case, the “sucking up of all the fishes” is not because the plant is nuclear. Yes, the reactors do need cooling. Cooling canals and reservoirs are needed. In this case, some knucklehead got the idea to put a screen on the pickup line. Duh, a cheap fuckup because of a cheap fix. Seems to me that an industry that can build nuclear reactors to make electricity should be able to prevent “little fishies” from clogging the intake of cooling water. Spent nuclear fuel rods are a problem. Finding a location to store them safely is still a problem and hopefully it better be resolved soon.

According to the Rainforest Action Network. For decades, climate change has been a global crisis that will impact every single person and living being on this planet. Now, according to the latest UN climate report, we have less than 10 years to cut global emissions in half.

Burning fossil fuels isn’t just bad for the climate, these industries also violate countless fundamental human rights. From frontline communities facing a fossil fuel pipeline on their land to Indigenous people facing fires in the Amazon to worker rights violations on palm oil plantations, the industries fueling climate change are also fueling injustice.

Coal, tar sands, and fracked gas show everything that’s wrong within the fossil fuel industry. These extraction practices are harming people and planet every day, and big banks are fueling this destruction of the planet and negligence of life.

So what’s so bad about coal, tar sands, and fracked gas? Basically everything, from start to the finish these fossil fuels are disastrous. For decades, climate change has been a global crisis that will impact every single person and living being on this planet. Now, according to the latest UN climate report, we have less than 10 years to cut global emissions in half.

Burning fossil fuels isn’t just bad for the climate, these industries also violate countless fundamental human rights. From frontline communities facing a fossil fuel pipeline on their land to Indigenous people facing fires in the Amazon to worker rights violations on palm oil plantations, the industries fueling climate change are also fueling injustice.

Coal, tar sands, and fracked gas show everything that’s wrong within the fossil fuel industry. These extraction practices are harming people and planet every day, and big banks are fueling this destruction of the planet and negligence of life.

So what’s so bad about coal, tar sands, and fracked gas? Basically everything, from start to the finish these fossil fuels are disastrous.

Like I said, “What you don’t see can be more dangerous.”
By phart [Ignore] 29,Jun,21 10:33 other posts 
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chernobyl didn just happen and stop.It is still happening today.

Smog will go away at some point.
coal smoke can be filtered.Try filtering radiaton.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 29,Jun,21 13:39 other posts 
Managing the Chernobyl disaster has probably already cost more energy than several nuclear reactors will produce in their lifetime. The exclusion zone of Chernobyl; 2600 km², if filled with solar panels, would produce 234 TWh/year. That's about twice the whole electricity consumption of The Netherlands.

So we only would need half that exclusion zone filled with solar panels
and that would cost about 78 Billion Euro's. That would raise our national debt from 56.3% of GDP to 66.2% of GDP.
Jobs for all our unemployed people will pull that debt down soon enough.
By #623135 30,Jun,21 08:42
You forget that the disaster in Chernobyl happened to a nuclear electric plant that would never be built in the US. According to the Atomic Energy Commission, this type of reactor was ver vulnerable to the disaster. The USSR didn’t care. Like the Chinese, they wanted results.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jun,21 09:54 other posts 
How about Fukushima?
Accidents happen. Even if the chance is 1:1M (historically proven it's much higher), when you multiply that risk by the number of nuclear power plants required, something catastrophic will happen at some point. Such catastrophes could cost more than the complete energy transition.
That's not worth it, because nuclear power is only a temporary solution, because the uranium will run out at some point. It's already becoming more and more expensive to mine the stuff.

Even if all those problems didn't exist, it still takes 10 years before any nuclear power plant has compensates his own build. But it first takes 10 years to build any. Then after 20 years, they are just as CO2 effecient as wind and solar. That's too late. We need to lower CO2 emissions ASAP.

Anyone with some money to spare can invest in their own solar panels,
lower their costs and be less dependent on power companies.
It's nice to have air-conditioning in a heat wave, when the government
is telling you not to use power or you can't afford it when power companies are charging you 100x the normal rate.

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By #623135 30,Jun,21 10:08
Fukushima’s disaster included the meltdown but IT WAS THE SUNAMI THAT CAUSED IT AND MOST OF THE DEVASTATION of that city. Last I’ve checked there are no dinamices happening in Kansas. I will give you this one. In Californicate state they’ve built one on the fault line. Engineer had too much Blow.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jun,21 11:06 other posts 
Isn't Kansas part of Tornado Alley?
There are al sorts of natural disasters, but it can also be a terrorist attack or a hacker or just basic human error.
By #623135 30,Jun,21 11:21
Yes, it is but you can’t compare a wind storm, even a tornado, to a sunami. Our nuclear plant in Turkey Point went through several hurricanes . Hurricanes produce tornados inside the storm. Hurricane Andrews destroyed large swaths out of the county. Huge communities disappeared. The Turkey Point plan took it in stride.
BTW, instead of Kansas I could have picked West Virginia
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As far as anything else, we have to trust security will prevail. Every thing is a crapshoot. Hopefully we don’t roll snake eyes,
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 30,Jun,21 12:54 other posts 
Or just choose all the many alternatives and don't build any new nuclear power plants. Why are you such a proponent of nuclear energy? What do you consider the advantage over truly sustainable energy technologies?
By #623135 30,Jun,21 13:30
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I was talking to phart.
I also don't like nuclear energy and my arguments are in line with the science on climate change. That uranium has to be mined, which also emits CO2.
A nuclear power plant takes a lot of energy to be built and maintained.
Then afterwards we have to keep the waste safe for the next 20,000 years.
On the short term nuclear is about as energy/CO2 efficient as wind power and even less than solar. In the long term nuclear has a horrible energy/CO2 efficiency, because keeping the waste safe also costs energy. Also, building nuclear power plants takes a long time and lots of materials. It takes about 10 years before a nuclear power plant compensates his own build. That's about 1-1.5 years for wind energy and 2 years for solar. However solar is cheaper
on maintenance.

Other than that, I agree with most of what you said.

All energy technology costs money, materials, energy and land to build and maintain. All energy technology has downsides like pollution, mineral shortages, exploitation of people and CO2 emissions. We just need to stop with the worst energy technologies first and expand on the best ones the most.

It doesn't require completely changing our life or have impact on the quality of our life. However climate change already impacts our life and it will only get worse. We can either choose to accept some changes now and prevent total catastrophe later or we can deny the truth until catastrophe proves us wrong.
By #623135 29,Jun,21 15:43
I wish we went back to the pre 1860’s. We really don’t need electricity. Natural gas was good enough to live and we don’t need TV or cars.


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