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I was struck by the statement that "Americans today benefit from what the miners strived for, including better working conditions." There is power in a Union!
As a result union membership in the UK is at a really low level today and many of those in unions are there for the legal protection that the union can give, rather than to support the union. The unions have largely lost their power.
So now we have millions of people in non union jobs on zero- hour contracts being paid minimum wage and with no one to fight for them. I am not convinced that is progress.
My upbringing, personal observations and natural instinct to fight for the underdog all play their part in becoming pro-Union.
I'm a great advocate for mutual aid, in all it's manifestations.
I live in Michigan and Michigan is a "right to work" state. I wish I understood the concept of this law. You have a union shop that employs two hourly workers. Mr. A joins the union, pays union dues and has "x" benefits and Mr. B decides that he does not want to join the union because it is his right to work, he pays no union dues and has the same benefits as Mr. A (this is a possible scenario where I work). I suppose that Mr. B could be terminated without as much effort as Mr. A but I don't understand the benefit of not opting into the union when you work for a union shop.
Has this change had an effect in worker’s rights and pal levels? Well as a I say minimum wage , zero hour jobs are now so very common.
Unions are only as strong as their membership.
"Under Michigan's new freedom-to-work laws, workers will have the freedom to choose whether or not to join a union. They won't be required to pay union dues if they don't want to, and they won't lose their jobs because of it."
With that said, are you able to determine what is proactive about being a right to work state and the freedom to work law?
My state is a right to work state and I think it is better in the long run. Have a lousy employe,fire their ass. No stress no fuss.
MY contributions, that was spent in donations to the democratic party and or Obama's campaign. No one asked me if that was ok, nor do I recall asking ANY member for their input on such a decision. Very shortly after discovering that, I was promoted to management and was very relieved to not ever have to contribute MY money to such a shitty corrupt organization. Oh yes, CORRUPT! Just like most liberal programs, ideas, organizations, etc. Shortly after joining the management team, the union's contract covering our employees and many of my friends was due to expire and be renewed. The union was asking for some rather radical proposals and the company was not on board with them. So, what did they do... They bought the union rep a new car, terms were reduced, and the workers got fucked. Yeah, great organization!
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Fuck unions!
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The figures that are either irredeemably good, or irredeemably bad, are few and far between.
Thought he could have beaten syphilis but he was so chicken of needles that he refused treatment...all because of fear of needles. Or maybe that's just a rumor, I don't know.
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Firstly, any large organisation can be flawed. One example of a Union acting reprehensibly does not invalidate the whole system of organised Labour.
Secondly, (and I can only speak for the UK) Trade Unionists have an option whether to contribute to the Political Fund of their Union. In other words you can belong to the Union and, easily, opt out of any contributions to the Political Fund. So, over here, you don't need to contribute a single penny to The Labour Party (which is the party that most Unions financially support) regardless of whether you belong to an affiliated Union or not.
Thirdly, every Trades Union in this country has a robust, democratic structure at it's heart. If you don't like the Representatives you can get rid of them.
Fourthly, unlike the US our Trades Unions do not have a history of links to organised crime. That's a failure of law enforcement (in my opinion) rather than an inherent drawback of Trade Unionism.
For good or ill, the US and the UK operate under the auspices of Capitalism. Inherent in that system is the fact that Capital is powerful (the clue's in the name!). Adam Smith's "invisible hand" prompts the Capitalists in society (ie. those people that have capital) to attempt to minimise their costs in order to maximise profits. For a lot of companies one of the largest costs they have is the cost of labour. Companies will, therefore, try to pay their employees as little as possible to retain their services. Workers only have their toil to exchange for their wages. Acting as single individuals they are, therefore, likely to get royally screwed by their Capitalist employers. However, organised Labour can, through collective bargaining, get a better deal for their members. In other words: Trade Unionism provides a sensible balance to the power of Capital.
There are sound reasons why the phrase "wage slavery" has entered the economic lexicon.
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If you want to challenge your own world views (not necessarily change them, by the way) I would encourage you, and anybody else who has an open mind, to read some Emma Goldman, Proudhon, Kropotkin and study people like Winstanley and the Diggers.
Sadly,i think most folks are in unions to prevent themselves for being fired for low productivty and lousy over all work ethic.
Companys employe people to make a product or provide a service.And if the employees are lazy and non productive that cuts into profit,the main reason for being in bussiness. IF a company trys to fire a non productive worker,the worker screams and some little glitche is found in procedure and all kinds of shit hits the fan.
I didn't do their type of job,but sometimes my job and theirs collided.And it caused me alot of problems trying to keep citizens safe.
Personal experiance goes along way towards shaping a man and his future.
funny you mentioned this as I've never really heard anyone speak about it. I had an experience I'd like to share... In order for you to understand how much it impacted me, I must tell you, I'm pretty much a small guy. I stand at 5ft 5in. about 150 lbs. I was quite the eager to please and overall a hard worker. ALL the other guys that worked there were over 6ft tall probably 300+ lbs. For real! 🤪 Within 3 days of starting that particular new job. Lunchtime rolled around and I had went off to sit by myself as I also prefer to be alone most of the time. As I was eating my lunch, three of the fella's I worked with approached me. I only remembered one of their names, Doug. So, I said hey Doug as they approached me, to which he didn't even respond. They basically surrounded me, invading my personal space, looking down on me, and Doug spoke, he says... "You need to slow it down some" confused by what the fuck he was saying to me I asked for clarification. I guess he gathered by the look on my face I had NO idea what the hell he was talking about. So he reiterated himself, adding, "you're making the rest of us look bad, and we don't like it! I suggest you work at a slower pace or there's gonna be trouble. Do we understand one another now?" 😖 Needless to say, feeling quite intimidated and vulnerable at that moment I just looked at him blankly and said sure. Sounds to me like you may have some valid points. 😉
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By the way!
Anyone wanna offer a solution OR what would YOU have done if three rather large fuckers surround you seeming to be ready to cause physical bodily injury to you? 🤔
Or even how you believe I SHOULD have handled it?
I don't necessarily believe ALL unions are bad and or corrupt. It's MY experiences with them that have placed a bad taste in my mouth, so to speak. Apparently it's not just me. My wife, an independent strong woman, was equally outraged at the time when SHE discovered that the union she was part of, also made a massive contribution to the Democrap party and or Obama's campaign. She was a teacher back then. Was the membership asked if that was ok or a vote held. NO! That's the memberships money that they are doing whatever the fuck they want with. I find the practice appalling. Telling me there's no better use for the money they collect? If they have such huge coffers of cash sitting around with nothing to do, why take more from the members? Point is, don't use a quarter of MY money on something I don't believe in, period! And I don't give a fuck how minuscule the amout of money is, it's the principal of the matter. Let me offer up another example. I once visited a "non-denominational" church, and of course made a cash donation when prompted. When we got home, I asked my wife to find out how that church uses the resources they collect, as I'm VERY familiar with how the Catholics use their money for the community. But, had no idea how or where that place uses theirs. After a bit of digging she discovered that they SUPPOSEDLY send the money to a few out of the U.S. charities. That discovery made the decision to not visit that one anymore.
As you can probably tell, my own experiences of Trade Unionism are very different. I have seen the pastoral care they take for their members, how they represent them when employers have taken goddamn liberties, and how (again in my experience) they are often the employees that CARE how the company for which they work can be a better (and more profitable) environment more so than the non-Union members.
I'm totally with you on transparency for how your Union subscriptions are used. Similarly, I would expect large corporations to publish how much they pay their top executives, how much they pay out to shareholders and (if they invest in other companies) where they invest their proceeds. Capitalism needs some "rules" or else we would have monopolies, cartels, insider trading and all sorts of other deleterious side-effects. I happen to believe that one of the best ways of introducing checks and balances, in a free market economy, is to have a strong Labour movement - as represented by a strong Trades Union. Have a fab day.
I started to post something but got distracted by fresh-baked bread coming out of the oven.
By the time I got back, I couldn't remember what I had started posting.
Warm bread and butter is the food of the gawds!
the cause of buffering almost always comes down to insufficient internet bandwidth — the file can't download fast enough to keep pace with playback, and it pauses to buffer. This can be due to: A slow/unstable internet connection.
I was doing ok at home. Movies, music, Facebook streamed well. Suddenly, buffering all the time. I called CentuyLink and they replaced my router. Tech said it's fairly common. Call your internet provider as corroded connections can contribute.
You are an idiot. You think form is more important than helping a friend. If it helps Bella, good, if it doesn't it was worth a try.
YOU ON THE OTHER HAND ARE THE IMPRINT OF EXCREMENT FROM THE LEFT HAND IN A ISLAMIC TOILET. LITTLE PUSSY, DADDY IS LOOKING FOR YOU TO FEED YOU.
I have just been blacklisted by a member because...wait for it...
"The forum comment about witches was uncalled for."
Yep.
It actually happened.
Witches are such fuckin' snowflakes.
Perhaps you should have included a trigger warning for witches, warlocks, Wiccans and weirdos.
Do I get a bonus point for alliteration?
Take TWO bonus points!
And trigger warnings are for sissies!
(Oh, hell...some Sissy will probably find that comment "uncalled for" and blacklist me.)
And although Jayy69 posted here twice, once to request that members rate his cock and the second time to say that there were "odd topics" discussed here, he chose to give a 👎 by way of a negative vote to this thread. People are strange.
The new SYD/SYC theme tune?
PS. you can have The Doors version if you prefer!
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Can I also offer up the following:
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Anyone else having this problem?
I'm 55, maybe ask someone who was born AFTER man landed on the moon!! I hear young folk are bang-on with all that techy stuff!
I do see that your YouTube link is for Merrie Melodies & Looney Tunes - Opening themes.
Damn Witches!
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