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Are humans causing this?
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This is a threat to our very lives.
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UM.Something ol Greta didn't think about?
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However, scientist measure the magnetic field and there is nothing going on with it. That article is talking about 41,800 years ago. In just decades there is rapid rising of the global CO2 concentration and huge deforestation. Even a basic understanding of physics is enough to link that with the rising global average temperature. It's good to look at alternative explanations and scientists do and they conclude that all those other factors cannot cause what is observed.
Would you care if climate scientists are right and earth is actually heating up to mass extinction levels?
If it is possible to prevent that, without going back to the stone age, would you still prefer we didn't even try?
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I’m with him. The simple solutions always work best
My personal investigation results in the opposite conclusion; I noticed it got hotter during my life. Also not as many bugs anymore lately, which is more comfortable, but makes me worry about nature.
Also, I can read and understand scientific articles and see that their data, methods and arguments are correct.
Then I hear arguments of politicians, saying climate change is a hoax, with very stupid arguments and I know that they are lying. Then I take a look at their wealth and how
they got it and I understand why they are lying.
Has your personal investigation included determining who is paying for the work of scientist trying to prove climate change?
Count the money behind "people paying for work of scientists trying to prove climate change" and the potential payoff.
Compare this count to the money funding "scientists" , websites, movements, lobbyists, politicians, etc. and the potential payoff for having the public unsure about the cause of climate change, thus allowing government to respond with appropriate legislation/regulation.
I would like to see the thorough count, por favor.
It is blatantly obvious the truth is not to be had thru common media sources.This internet is so bleached,it is white as snow for truth.
I am not dismissing your challenge ,I ask what I think is a good question. And I have looked around for some answers but came up short on anything I can trust. You could use the dr faulchy gate for a example of what I am referring to as to who is paying the bills.
How about other energy industries.. Coal? God help me if I was in charge I would give all the coalminers in the US free pension for life and shut down the industry. I believe it is the greedy folks on top who use the coalminers to their political benefit every election. It is still an ok energy source but outdated, soon extinct.
Before I ramble, you can check lobbying dollars spent on US Senate and Congressman per industry. Oil has been consistently up there for years.
I will concede, one of the biggest spenders recently was Healthcare Industry, and they went hard for Biden, which is potentially corrupt as well, just to show that I am kind of person to follow the numbers and data, even if it disappoints my original thesis.
Cheers!
And why are the facts that support climate change not convincing to you?
Do you have reason to think the following facts are not true?
- The burning of fossil fuels has raised the global CO2 concentration.
- Humanity has destroyed one-third of all forest in the world (an area twice the size of the United States).
- The average global temperature has risen higher than ever, during at least the last 2000 years.
Because the only people who can tell us are scientists. And if we don't even agree on the facts, we can never agree on the conclusions.
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I think alot of us have been trying to explain this for years and NO one will listen.SO HERE,READ the science.
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The ozone layer also has none or little effect on climate change. People were worried about the ozone layer, because it protects us (and the rest of nature) against harmful UV radiation. That's why governments agreed to stop using ozone destroying chemicals, with regulation.
That actually helped, which shows that humanity IS capable of preventing the destruction of life on earth. Now, let's do that for climate change, before it's too late.
["The latest WMO/UN Environment Programme Scientific Assessment of Ozone Depletion, issued in 2018, concluded that the ozone layer on the path of recovery and to potential return of the ozone values over Antarctica to pre-1980 levels by 2060."]
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A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world and universe that can be repeatedly tested and verified in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results.
It's the job of scientists to research everything that is considered important enough by enough people. Researching a subject says nothing about the validity of the proposed hypothesis. In fact, many hypotheses are researched to disprove them.
There was never any consensus about global cooling HYPOTHESIS.
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Rather we humans all fart ourselves to death over night and the earth is barren of live humans in 48 hours.
Can you explain how that's happening naturally?
don't you?
So, "Climate change is something that is happening naturally" is also shallow drivel.
If you think the earth is flat, most people think you are crazy, but it doesn't do much harm.
If you think the earth is 6000 years old and evolution is bullshit, that mostly isn't that harmful either.
However, if you're wrong and all the scientists are right about climate change, that means you're not part of the progress humanity needs to prevent the biggest crisis in the history of humanity, mass extinction, probably the end of humanity and maybe even the end of all life on earth. What is your reason for taking that chance?
It’s funny nobody cares about the alligator crisis!
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Lockdown or not is not a scientific issue it's a political one. All virologists agree that human contact increases the risk of spreading the virus, just as all climate scientists agree that the average global temperature rises, when the CO2 concentration rises, from deforestation and the use of fossil fuels.
Nobody cares about the alligator crisis, because obviously the data on which it's based is incorrect. It states that last year Americans had their feet bitten by alligators 3,618,524 times. And then they don't even know if the number refers to the number of feet or people. Very funny, but you are a blithering idiot if you think that is science.
A religion does not require a deity to be a religion! Climate change is a religion! What happens if you go against the climate change religion? Well they seek to excommunicate you! Just as the deity religions do!
I think everyone should listen to “another crisis” it is only approx. 3 min 30 sec.
Another crisis by Thomas Sowell
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Really? Well, that would shut me up, if it was true.
Do you have some reliable data on that?
Manufactoring,and creating alternative energy has side effects just as burning gasoline.
Check the dirt around the galanized racks that solar panels are mounted on in the solar farms popping up everywhere.There is 1 just accross the river from me,100 acres. the soil is contaminated and can not grow food for over 25 years after the racks are removed.Also,ground water for our wells is affected.
You are trading 1 problem for 2 others.
As we speak, beaches are covered in oil so bad that it takes years to recover. Fracking has already poisoned drinking water in North Dakota. Enormous areas of land are destroyed in Canada for tar sands. The mining of Lignite (brown coal) in Germany has has left deep scars on the landscape on an area of over 600 km2.
And you are worried about galvanized solar penal racks?
It is not even necessary to use zinc for that. There are biodegradable coatings or you can use aluminum frames. You don't even need frames, if you put solar panels on rooftops.
My god, what a ridiculous argument against renewable energy.
I wasn't using that 1 argument to shut down the whole solar show,just demonstrating the problems being created.
What if you're wrong and we are actually living in the last 10 years in which humanity can still prevent climate change at a level that will be catastrophically bad?
The time will come when humans time on earth is over .We can either enjoy our time here or die suffering in all ways imaginable. Economically, socially, politicly and etc. Climate changers are kinda like a damn Home owners association. They want to impose rules on people to reduce freedom of choice and lifestyle.
In short, the climate changers are after 1 of our rights,the right to persue happiness.
Unless China and other countrys decide they want to clean up their air,we could go back to horse and buggy and their emissions would travel the Jet Stream and pollute our air.
THe japaneese nuclear plant that was damaged in that bad earth quake,it's radiation can be detected in our crops growing in feilds in the midwest.
I doesn't make any sense to me to keep this farce up, when we have farmers here driving around in battery operated cars, made from old wrecks with a bank of batteries, yet the 'leaders' of the world are dragging their knuckles on the ground, not really wanting to make cheaper more reliable means of fuels for transport with less of a footprint. we have the technology, they just don't like implementing anything that might be pinned back on them later if it fails.. the world has bought a big bag of cotton wool and wrapped itself in it... we need the 'buy a bag of concrete, and harden the fuck up' back.
I heard a saying the other day, something like, 'the stone age didn't finish because we ran out of stones, just like the "oil age" wont finish because we run out oil. we'll just find something better to take its place.' ??? *Lix*
Unless if you are transgender or you got pregnant by mistake
and you don't want to deliver.
We've just watched it on Netflix. It's beautiful, then it becomes depressing for a while,
but it ends with a very hopeful message. I can recommend it to anyone.
Must be from wind mills.
Another crisis-it is brief and enlightening
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Sure, even economists have given their opinion on whether the science of climate change is correct, while they have no scientific expertise on the subject. However, most of the people arguing against the science of climate change have no scientific expertise on the subject, while the science is supported by all scientists that do have expertise on the subject.
Even though it takes complete ignorance about science to deny the science of climate change (or ulterior motives), it doesn't take a whole lot of scientific knowledge to recognize that the science is correct.
Your video does not disprove the science of climate change. This is ironically just one of these ad hominem attacks you were talking about.
If the earth has took 1 billon years to change the location of the land mass's,how can humans have changed the air in less than 100?
Also,the ocean is 1.5 inches wider each year.
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That was actually a climate change crisis from a singular event in one part of the world. However, humanity has destroyed 60% of the forests all over the world. Simultaneously we are burning a huge part of the oil that was created over hundreds of millions of years, in 100 years.
That's comparable to continues wildfires, 20 times bigger than all wildfires in the world combined, including the one that covered California in darkness in 2020.
And you can't understand how such a big impact on the world can upset the delicate balance of the climate?
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