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There is bound to be a "lease" or something on those panels. Nothing is "free".
Resistance heating is the biggest load on any electrical system.
The grid can't handle current demand. how long before liberals see,and understand this?
re-investing in their grid.
Try clearing a right of way for a 250,000 volt transmission line.
"You can't cut this tree,you can't drill there,you can't go thru that swamp, you didn't pay twice as much for that black persons land as you did that white persons land" ,I could go on,but trust me,it is not easy any more.
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New Zealand is also know in Australia as the place where men are men and sheep are scared
Please don't confuse the two islands mate 😃
And WAY down there far far away!
Geologically, Australia lies on its own major tectonic plate while Greenland is part of the North American plate.” I'm sharing this link for two reasons. To help resolve the confusion as to why Greenland the world's largest island but Australia gets to be the smallest continent.
I had no idea greenland was a island.
but it really don't matter,.
Dev,I hope you know I am just picking and joking.
I have always heard that part of the world was "down under". And that the toilet water swirls in the other direction than ours. lol
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It is all about control.
The folks in control want all the luxury's of life that you the poor work and strive for. While you suffer and toil with bare feet eating tofu and drinking their fetus and drug tainted toilet water.
So far no one has taken those from you. Now come some scientists, people who don’t give a fuck weather you believe them, with some truths and theories. They don’t deny global warning has been happening for ages. All they are saying is that for all those ages the rate of warming has been at a steady rate……….. until the 1700s when the world entered into the industrial revolution. Since then and, in particular, in the last 70 years, it has accelerated tremendously. The problem is not that global warming is happening. The problem is that the world population will not be able to adapt to the changes coming fast enough to continue living the lifestyle we are all used to. So, what would a good game plan be to live through this? I would think delaying this warming as much as possible. That means more efficient cars, perhaps use a form of cleaner propulsion. Stop burning coal at least until some genius comes up with a clean way to burn it. Stop burning the great forests. Stop polluting.
All these things are not made to keep you from enjoying your modern lifestyle. Only people like you two are swallowing the lie. The powers that be, the money and those that control it, are the ones that fed you this. Why? Change comes with a price and these people care more with what goes into their pocket than your future well being.
exactly and until that price becomes more affordable than the current choices, will it be feasible for everyone to pick and choose.
I have casually been looking around for a late 80's or early 90's ford ranger. I need automatic and the 4 cylinder would work for replacing a older truck I can't operate without being in pain due to everything being manual.
I found a 87, for 750 bucks. but 4 speed manual. I looked at tax, Title fees, and so forth ,and how long it would take for the fuel savings to show up. Turns out that the little truck, although in my price range, doesn't get fuel mileage enough to justify the expense. Literally only 2 miles to the gallon better than what I drive everyday .Not enough to make it worth it.
And forget being able to afford a new electric truck.A Rivian or a Lordstown would be the 2 to pick from and they are EXSPENSIVE. Normal people can't afford the damn things.
Can you explain why all your colleague scientists are wrong?
Because, they know about ice ages, don't you think? They discovered them.
45 percent of crude oil is refined into gasoline.
An additional 29 percent is refined to diesel fuel.
That's 74% used for transportation.
The remaining oil (26%) is used to make plastics and other products.
But it's admirable that you understand the problem of plastic.
A good start is to not buy clothing with synthetic fibres anymore.
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Big Oil: The 10 Largest Oil and Gas Companies by Market Cap
Rank Company ---- Market Cap --- CEO
1 Saudi Aramco, $1,979 billion, Amin Nasser
2 ExxonMobil, $257.30 billion, Darren Woods
3 Chevron, $205.29 billion, Mike Wirth
4 Shell, $175.28 billion, Ben van Beurden
5 PetroChina, $162.55 billion, Wang Dongjin
6 TotalEnergies, $130.56 billion, Patrick Pouyanné
7 Gazprom, $121.77 billion, Aleksej Miller
8 ConocoPhillips, $95.93 billion, Ryan Lance
9 BP, $93.97 billion, Bernard Looney
10 Rosneft, $84.07 billion, Igor Sechin
Searched the internet for "CEO .... speaks out on climate change"
Amin Nasser: "We all agree that to move towards a sustainable energy future a smooth energy transition is absolutely essential but we must also consider the complexities and challenges to get there,"
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Darren Woods: "Just last month, ExxonMobil CEO Darren Woods assured lawmakers his company neither disputed the scientific consensus on climate change nor lobbied against efforts to cut carbon pollution. But a lobbyist for the oil giant struck a different tone less than two weeks later, according to a recording obtained by The Washington Post, suggesting global warming might not be so dire."
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Mike Wirth: "Chevron CEO Michael Wirth says company accepts “climate change is real,” but denies allegations it spread disinfo."
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Ben van Beurden: "Shell CEO Ben van Beurden on the global evolution underway in response to climate change and the need for the energy industry to embrace it."
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Wang Dongjin:states that CNOOC will “unswervingly implement the seven-year action plan for increasing domestic oil and natural gas reserves and production to demonstrate CNOOC’s efforts to ensure national energy security and at the same time provide strength for the energy transition.”
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"Wang Dongjin, chairman of CNOOC, said that the offshore wind sector aligns with the company's overall business. CNOOC can apply its resources in offshore engineering and experience in such operations, and the company plans to intensify its new energy business by focusing on offshore wind power."
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Patrick Pouyanné: "We must be able to be exemplary not only in the fight against climate change but also in the management of the environment and in particular the use of the planet’s natural resources."
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Aleksej Miller: ???? Couldn't find anything relevant said by him.
Ryan Lance: ConocoPhillips CEO warns of 'messy' energy transition: “That’s one of the great disappointments out of COP26 for me is they’re all focused on supply and no one’s doing anything about the demand side of the equation,” Lance told hundreds of attendees at the World Petroleum Congress in Houston. “So we’re setting up a messy transition, because customers are going to not only want what we have, but they’re going to demand it.”
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Bernard Looney: Oil giant BP is committed to tackling climate change, the company’s CEO said, but he insisted that hydrocarbons such as oil and gas will have an ongoing role to play in the energy mix for years. “It may not be popular to say that oil and gas is going to be in the energy system for decades to come but that is the reality,”
Igor Sechin: "The development of new materials is no longer an energy issue, but a much more serious issue of changing the structure of the economy. Despite the variety of plans to reach carbon neutrality, the energy transition will remain a pipe dream without developing new technologies and materials. Even in the long term renewable energy will not be able to completely replace traditional energy resources"
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None of them say climate change is bullshit or that climate scientists are wrong. They have payed their own scientists to refute the scientific consensus that the Earth's climate is warming, due to man-made carbon-dioxide, but they all say that they agree now.
When even the most powerful people, with the biggest incentive to not agree, agree...
Some say the energy transition is more difficult than people think. No shit, Sherlock!
nothing any greenie can do to stop a space object impact.
uh don't close a power plant until you can replace it's capacity dipshits!
Population further rising, its a logical Process..
So instead of "going green" you are actually going to BLACK OUT!
Let's see you charge your car when the power goes OUT.
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And when there is a shortage of oil and gas, building power plants powered by oil and gas is a bit dim. Fortunately, wind and solar are now also the cheapest power generation technologies. The US is a large country with lots of suitable land for solar energy.
Probably Newsmax has been payed off by the fossil fuel industry, to sell you the narrative of unsolvable problems related with the increased demand for electricity. It sounds like the US can't do anything anymore. You are always condemning laziness, but your attitude on solving problems is incredibly LAZY.
Or is it about the money again? I thought the US was the richest country in the world.
Your government spends trillions of dollars, but just not on anything good. Are they ever asking 'how are we going to pay for it?' if the banks gambled away your money or when your presidents starts a new war or when the rich get new tax-cuts?
You even mention electric trains as a problem? Is the US a third world country?
In Europe electric trains are the standard. See table from 3 years ago:
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Luckily not every American is as apathetic as Newsmax's funders want them to be.
Smart entrepreneurs understand they can create more value on their land, when they combine agriculture and solar power, called 'dual-use farming'. It might even save livestock farming in the hottest areas of the US, because solar panels can provide the shade for livestock to survive the heatwaves that will become more frequent and longer, due to climate change.
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I have family that retired from a power company, and friends that did as well. THe power grid was outdated by the late 90's when computers started hitting homes.
How do you recycle solar panels? How do you deal with the heavy metals from the galvanized post the panels are mounted to that leach into ground water? I ask that because there is over 200 acres of the fucking things 2 miles from where I sit. I had to listen to that pounding driving the post in for months on end.Panels good for 20 years then what? Can't grow food on the soil any more.
Yea,put cows on it ,let them eat the grass,full of heavy metals like zinc and tin.Then we eat the steak and then what? brain damage from the metals???
Right of way for power lines is expensive and affects the environment. When the grid was first built, those were not major concerns. But now if you disturb the environment for some kind of worm or germ or animal ,you are a villain that pays big fines. Kinda hard to set towers and keep right of way clear when you have to fight off literal snakes and bugs and the virtual 1's in government.
As for roof top solar, show me the REAL numbers and not those off the tv ad's for that Genercrap system. it takes YEARS for those systems to pay off,and by that time, the system is worn down.
Geothermal is the way I would like to see folks go with home heating and cooling. No major energy needed,just a bunch of pipe buried in the ground and a fan and filters.
or use water ran thru the system.
I know a fellow that dug a 7 foot diameter tunnel in his back yard that was literally 200 foot long about 40 feet down. he had a simple fan hooked up that pulled air up from it and thru the house,shop,and other outbuildings. Cost nearly nothing to operate. Cool in the summer and took little to bring up the temp from 55 degrees in the winter.
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The real cost of driving electric.
It is going to require aftermarket to get involved for cost of battery replacement to be affordable.
Replacing the battery of a Nissan Leaf is $5,500. That's after 10 years or so.
And it needs much less maintenance than a petrol car, besides that.
A Nissan Leaf is very comparable with the economical petrol burning car I have now.
It's twice as expensive to buy, but it is cheaper to run. Charging that battery would cost me around €6,- and would give me a range of around 385 km. That's around 7x cheaper per km (or mile) than my car. I used to drive 20.000 km per year, which would cost me now €2,265 per year. That Nissan Leaf would cost me €312 per year on electricity.
I would save €19,532 in ten years. It then has compensated for it's higher purchase price and a new battery, that will last me another 10 years. Then I'm really saving money.
One reason I don't do it (yet) is because I never buy NEW cars.
Another reason is that I don't drive 20.000 km per year anymore.
But it's still very likely that my next car is electric.
Especially when I find a solution to charge it with my own solar panels.
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