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it will be nice to not have to sit in line for hours.
a freind took their grandmother to the hospital and it was 6 hour wait to get her in, turns out it was a heart attack, thankfully just sitting doing nothing didn't stress her to much and she made it. she just said she was hurting all over and they didn't get in no hurry. illegals go to the er for everything, as do those without health insurance because they know they will get some basic care. it burdens the system and folks that are diligent and have insurance have to wait.
on America's emergency rooms too. That doesn't justify the action though.
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What makes electoral votes legitimate:
In U.S. presidential elections, electoral votes become legitimate when they’re cast and certified in accordance with federal and state law, and then accepted by Congress. The main steps are:
State Popular Vote Certification – Each state conducts its election, counts the votes, and certifies the results according to its own laws. This certification determines which slate of electors is appointed.
Electors Cast Votes – On the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December (set by federal law), the chosen electors meet in their state capitals to cast one vote for president and one for vice president. These votes are recorded on official certificates.
Transmission of Certificates – The electors’ votes are sent to the Vice President (as President of the Senate), the National Archives, and other designated officials.
Congressional Count and Certification – On January 6 following the election, Congress meets in a joint session to count the electoral votes. Electoral votes are considered “legitimate” if they come from electors appointed in accordance with state law and the U.S. Constitution, and if no valid objection under the Electoral Count Reform Act is sustained.
Constitutional & Legal Requirements – Article II and the 12th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, plus federal statutes like 3 U.S.C. §§ 1–21, establish the rules for appointing electors, casting votes, and resolving disputes. Only votes meeting these requirements are recognized.
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Here’s the Michigan story about those fake electors:
# Why they’re called “fake electors”
Because they were **not** the electors Michigan law certified. After the 2020 canvass, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer issued the official **Certificate of Ascertainment** naming the **Democratic slate** as Michigan’s duly chosen electors (Biden won the state). A separate Republican group then signed and sent papers **claiming they were the “duly elected and qualified Electors”** for Trump. That makes them “fake” (or “false”) relative to the only lawful slate. ([michigan.gov][1])
# Who called them “fake electors” first
The label showed up in media coverage right away—e.g., a **Dec. 15, 2020 Newsweek** headline: “Michigan Republicans Tried to Submit **Fake Electoral Votes** to Capitol.” Later, Michigan’s attorney general and the U.S. House Jan. 6 Committee also used “fake/false electors” in official materials. ([Newsweek][2], [GovInfo][3])
Trump allies and campaign officials referred to the individuals involved in the "fake electors" scheme as "fake electors" themselves. This term was used both internally among Trump’s team and externally in legal contexts.
Evidence of Internal Acknowledgment
Internal communications reveal that Trump campaign officials recognized the individuals as "fake electors." For instance, in Georgia, Robert Sinners, the Trump campaign’s state director for election day operations, emailed all Georgia fake electors on November 6, 2020, thanking them for agreeing to serve as Republican electors or alternates. He emphasized the need for discretion and secrecy, stating, "Your duties are imperative to ensure the end result – a win in Georgia for President Trump – but will be hampered unless we have complete secrecy and discretion." This acknowledgment of their role as "electors" in the context of the scheme implies recognition of their status as "fake electors" in the broader plot to overturn the election results.
# How they falsified documents (what they did)
According to the Michigan AG’s investigator’s sworn **affidavit** and related testimony/evidence:
* **Met at Michigan GOP headquarters** on Dec. 14, 2020 (not in the Capitol where real electors meet) and **signed a “Certificate of the Votes of the 2020 Electors from Michigan,”** asserting they were Michigan’s **“duly elected and qualified”** electors and that they had convened in the **State Capitol** at 2:00 p.m. (they had not).
* **Tried to deliver** the envelope to the Michigan Senate at the Capitol that day and were **turned away by State Police**.
* **Mailed the signed documents** to federal and state officials; the **National Archives** and the **U.S. Senate** received a set postmarked for Jan. 5, 2021. The Senate’s former counsel testified a **fake Michigan Certificate of Votes** arrived and did not match the lawful certificate signed by the Governor. ([AP News][4])
The affidavit also notes two “**Certificates of Filling Vacancy**” were included, naming replacements for two Republicans who didn’t attend—another attempt to mirror the formal process.
# Why that’s a crime (the charges & statutes)
Michigan charged 16 signers in July 2023. The affidavit lays out the statutes:
* **Forgery** of a public record — **MCL 750.248**
* **Election-law forgery** — **MCL 168.933a**
* **Uttering and publishing** a forged document — **MCL 750.249**
* **Conspiracy** to commit the above — **MCL 750.157a**
Signing and transmitting documents **falsely claiming** to be Michigan’s duly elected electors and **falsely stating** they met at the Capitol are alleged violations of those laws. ([michigan.gov][1])
# The evidence, in brief
* The **signed false certificates** themselves (claiming “duly elected and qualified” status and a Capitol meeting).
* **Video/incident report** of the group attempting to enter the Capitol on Dec. 14, 2020 and being **denied entry**.
* **Mailing records** and the **National Archives/U.S. Senate** receipt of the false certificate (with return address linked to a signer). ([AP News][4])
* The **AG investigator’s sworn affidavit** summarizing the timeline, statutes, and basis for charges. ([michigan.gov][1])
* Additional public reporting and court coverage tracking the case and hearings. ([Michigan Advance][5], [pbs.org][6], [News From The States][7])
That’s why they’re widely referred to as “fake electors”: their papers tried to **replace** Michigan’s certified electoral votes with **unauthorized** ones.
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More truth
Every time Trump speaks, he incriminates himself further,
while the red hatters shout "Obama!".
Look over there, while your president is showing everyone who he is!
And then you do as you're told. Pathetic!
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According to your profile, you live in CANADA.
Did you vote for Trump and then fled for the consequences?
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You might not believe me, but I really do want to understand you.
Does the following video represent the reasons that you had?
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I'm glad you would like to understand me but I'm not a socialist, egoist or materialistic.
If you are athiest I believe you take away tremendous opportunity bettering oneself through piety and obtaining a common frame of reference. For example, leadership. taking risks for the love and compassion from yourself for another. Being a good father, mother, son, spouse. I believe logic is only the beginning. The joy of giving of yourself for the benifit of others.
Avoiding division and hatred as well as temptation which is the rule measuring the character of a man or woman. If the human race is going to survive it is my belief that if you mix logic with humility through each other then we have a chance. Otherwise as long as the United States remains divided our country will be destroyed. When there are nuclear warheads on the table as chips with the same egoistic desires it is only a matter of time before we destroy not only each other but every single organism on earth. The power of unity is the only way but there must be education with common morals and ethics for the people entailed or democracy will not work.
Education is an absolute MUST at all costs The ability to gain knowledge in order to love, compose through free will being students, teachers and passing our knowledge for the next generation. It needs to be available for everyone regardless of economic status.
If we gain wisdom to just be happy with what we have and share then there is a good chance.
They have investigated her up to wazoo. There was just nothing to find.
Your politicians are corrupt, so is Hillary, but most corruption is LEGAL.
Your right-wing supreme court justices have made it legal.
Trump has lied his pants off about Hillary. This was just a dub attack.
"I never said 'Lock her up!'" He's on video, saying it multiple times.
Still, if you find evidence that she's a criminal, go lock her up. Fine!
What about all the evidence on Trump? All fake, right?
You didn't see him break the law and lie about it, on every TV channel on Earth?
Trump: "If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?"
August 2022: Invoked the Fifth 400+ times; called not taking it a “fool’s” move.
Is the "tremendous opportunity bettering oneself through piety" just related to being
an atheist? Being Christian provides that opportunity pretty well too, looking at their behavior.
Even though your not a believer, as you say, the believers have still managed to make you believe lots of their nonsense. A third of my country is atheist, 58% is non-religious. Do you think all of them are not a good father, mother, son, spouse? My father is atheist and he has always been great to me and my brother. In your country, I don't see a whole lot of compassion. Your Christian nationalists don't have an ounce of compassion in their bodies.
My compassion comes from humanism, which is the only 'belief' I have. It's the proposition that people have human rights, like in your Constitution: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.". It has the 'Creator' in it, but that doesn't matter. That was just needed to get the believers in line.
The belief is simple: Humanity is served by humans accepting that everyone has human rights. No deity needed to enforce my behavior, by the threat of torture and the promise of heaven, because I care about the life I'm living NOW. I can only be happy, when there is happiness around me. I understand that other people are not that different from me. That's the basis for compassion. Simple, no need for a supernatural superstition.
If you're worried about humanity destroying everyone and everything, don't support "end-times fetishists" taking control of your government.
We don't need knowledge to love, it's in our biology. Only the teachings of dogma can destroy people's love and create hate. Anyway, I'm happy to hear that you consider education important. Do you think that Republicans have ever supported education being available to all? Do you know what they're trying to do in Texas and other red states?
Your last line almost makes me believe you are a socialist. lolHowever, you say you're not and you added that you're not an egoist or materialistic. I have no reason to not believe you. But, why then did you vote for an materialistic egoist? The guy has a golden toilet and brags about being a billionaire. At his inauguration, the stage was filled with all of the worlds worst materialistic egoists.
"be happy with what we have and share" that's the exact opposite of Trump's attitude. Don't you think that social security, Medicaid, Medicare, SNAP and school breakfasts/lunches are "sharing"? Do you know what Trump is doing to all of those programs?
Lots of people voted for Trump. I agree that the Democrats haven't given people very good reasons to vote for them. Would there be reasons to vote for them, when they show themselves to be the party for the working class?
What do you actually want from your government? Do you want them to back off and let capitalism solve it or do you want strong control of the economy?
How about social issues? Can gays marry? Can an adult get a trans operation?
Can women have an abortion? Should evolution be scrapped and creation be enforced in schools? Do you need more guns or gun control?
How about the rest of the world? Free trade competition or tariff each other to stop most trade? Should Gaza be cleared of Palestines? Should Putin be allowed to conquer Ukraine? Do you want a war with Iran?
Your sources of current events lack proper journalism. I'm not saying Trump is an angel. From a political perspective you can say what you want but when it comes to law then the path changes.
Nobody is throwing anyone out of gaza.On a conservative point of view if there is a question you have you need to find answers out for yourself not by hearing it from the mouth.. Trace it through then draw your own conclusions. You appear to be smart, well....
I don't care if you marry a donkey, horse. another man.
Nothing is stopping world trade. It's making it even trade.
In my last note I said the people of a nation need to be educated in order to form a more perfect union, from there you can develop democracy. Otherwise you will have division.
From moral standards I don't believe in abortion. However the law is what it is through majority, hence education.
Theoretically war should not exist.The best way is to take away their financial sponsorship.
Socialism , communism, politics.... Words.. its either right or wrong, but that is where piety takes control through moral standard.
Medicaid has been taking and stolen from the people that qualified and needed it for many decades and was abused by democrats giving out free money to blacks, hispanics and other non caucasion groups at the same time being dead last in education inside inner cities in exchange for power. Their standards have deviated from the constitution since growing from over 200 years ago. Medicade is being modified if you can prove you are mentally or physically disabled. Its being filtered so that the people that truely need it, get it.
gaza needs to be cleaned up of the terrorist, whoever they are, and their enablers, whoever they may be as well.
free trade,ananas, i am not sure you know what that means. if we in America let a country send it's stuff here without tarrifs, and if we send something over there and they want to charge a tarrif,that is not free trade.
free trade would mean no tarrifs, no extra cost from customs period. if a item is a dollar when it leaves china it would be a dollar here, and vice versa, until that is the case, there is no free trade.
if putin can show where ukraine was a a threat or becoming corrupt and a danger to the world, then yes, if not, then no.
don't want a war with iran, but i also don't want radical muslims that welcome death holding a nuke over my head as i sleep. you may enjoy the company but i don't
Capitalism is creating profit for the wealthy, with which they buy and then own 'stuff' (companies, houses, land, resources, intellectual property, etc). That ownership provides them the ability to make more profit. Follow me so far? However, they buy 'stuff' that other people need. To use that stuff, they need to pay the owner(s). There is only a limited amount of 'stuff' in the world. The wealthiest keep owning more and more of it, while the rest keeps owning less and less of it. The only economic rule that limits that transfer of ownership to the wealthy is TOTAL COLLAPSE.
Did you CHECK which countries had tariffs on the US?
Or are you just parroting Trump?
Why do you need Putin to show you? NATO was being a threat to him, obviously.
Can we now bomb countries that become corrupt? Seek cover then.
I saw the US attack Iran, I saw Israel attack Iran, and I saw Iran be modest.
Their leadership doesn't want their country to be destroyed. Simple!
It's not about that, you just want to be able to freely attack them.
That's why they want a nuke or several, so you can't anymore.
The biggest reason for why Muslims can't get rid of their dictators is the US. When people feel threatened they pick authoritarian leaders. YOU THREATEN THEM!
You know the feeling, you voted for Trump because you felt threatened. Am I wrong?
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Waiting outside of a courtroom, where people are working on their legal status, that's a scummy thing to do. Attacking people without identifying yourself, that's a stupid thing to do. Considering every non-white person, who cannot identify themselves immediately,
an illegal immigrant, is against the Fourth Amendment. They are calling people gang members just because of some tattoo, that's also evil. They are criminals.
I agree that you don't want illegals in your country. However, you are just 'fixing' that by those methods. Is there even ONE employer who is in trouble for employing illegals? Right-wing employers are now crying on TV that all their employees were deported.
So they were illegally employing illegals. Why are those criminals not in jail?
Do you think not doing that fixes anything?
It will be TACO time again.
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ice is getting smart,even learning from old days.
Again, when are they going to crack down on the criminal employers?
They are literally admitting to crimes in the media.
Half your employees have fled or are deported? Show me your books!
but you won't lift a finger against the ones who use them to cheapen your labor?
Should their punishment only be that they finally have to pay people an honest wage, after exploiting a problem for years?
You wouldn't have illegals, if no one employed them!
If you don't lift a finger against these crooks, they learn nothing, and will find a way
to do it again, as soon as possible. Your wall won't prevent that, they'll fly them in,
if they have to. If they can scam the working class, they don't give a damn about
the color of your skin, where you're born or if you have some papers.
Never again tell me about the TWO TIERED JUSTICE SYSTEM! You support it.
the simple fact is the American people expect to high of a wage to be able to make a profit and that drives people to make rash decisions.
that is the real problem.
Would people then not let their roof done? Well, sleep in the rain then.
Meanwhile, all those roofers make more money, so they can go to a restaurant, that then also makes more money. Higher wages will increase some costs,
but they boost the economy.
I have ALWAYS supported equal justice. You're the one who doesn't want
to prosecute and punish criminals, because you like those criminals.
I only care about evidence and proportionality.
However, you can show me a hypocrite. Go ahead, present your case.
Mind the 'evidence and proportionality' though.
Do you know what drives people to make rash decisions?
Living in a country that has no jobs and is riddled with violence.
Still, you would punish people with life imprisonment for fleeing it.
this country is not riddled with violence and there are plenty of jobs, or we wouldn't have this illegal immigrant influx trying to steal these jobs. and they wouldn't feel any safer here than they did at home.
You are sending them to Alligator Auschwitz.
It's now rampant with diseases, that affect the guards too.
Because of the awful sanitary conditions, in the middle of a bug infested swamp,
before you accuse the illegals of carrying diseases again.
Those illegals are not stealing your jobs, the ones who employ them do.
Damn, your indoctrination is pushed down deep.
(I wasn't talking about the US, but the countries the immigrants come from)
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why the hell did they even approve medicaid for someone making 3800 a month for anyway??? it is supposed to be for poor people. she had no dependents,
You can design checks and balances to minimize it, but there are always a few
who find ways to gain the system.
Your story mostly checks out. One thing that the story is (possibly intentionally) unclear about is the total amount Medicaid actually paid out on her behalf during that period.
She didn't buy the Lamborghini with Medicaid money, she just receive some unknown figure in Medicaid benefits, that she wasn't entitled to. She did actually earn the money that she bought that car with, by operating multiple businesses, that generated over
$9.5 million in revenue. Instead of being outraged that she got some Medicaid benefits, better care about her paying taxes. Rich people can scam on their taxes to gain the system many times harder, than what she could ever take from Medicaid.
You're correct that she didn't have a right to any Medicaid benefits, because she isn't poor, but calling her 'Medicaid millionaire' that's creating an incorrect perception. You probably fell for their trick too.
Who said her benefits were approved on a $3800 a month salary?
She probably declared an incorrect salary to the tax authorities.
She would be find out by the IRS eventually, unless you defund it to shit.
Louisiana adopted Medicaid expansion under the Affordable Care Act, so the limit for most non-disabled adults is 138% of the Federal Poverty Level (FPL).
For 2025, the FPL for the 48 contiguous states is $15,060 per year for a single adult.
So 138% FPL = $20,783/year (≈ $1,732/month) for a single person.
Household examples:
2-person household: $28,207/year
3-person household: $35,630/year
4-person household: $43,054/year
Medicaid isn't charity, it's single payer healthcare. It would be the most efficient healthcare system, if everyone was on it.
By the way, she was CAUGHT, not by DOGE, but by state‐level investigators (LBI agents, part of the Attorney General’s office). She will probably be fined pretty severely.
Is this your argument that Medicaid should be destroyed?
What's the alternative? Everyone on private health insurance?
Have you ever investigated how much fraud is associate with that?
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The lawsuit, filed in the U.S. by the law firm Clare Locke, states that the Macrons attempted multiple times to engage Owens in dialogue and sent an official letter demanding retraction. Owens allegedly mocked the letter and continued making the claims to both U.S. and international audiences, which the lawsuit argues harmed the Macrons’ reputation worldwide.
The complaint describes Owens as deliberately dissecting the Macrons’ appearance, marriage, friends, family, and personal history to create a grotesque narrative that fueled relentless global bullying. It claims Owens knowingly spread falsehoods for personal fame and profit, particularly after leaving The Daily Wire and promoting her independent podcast. Owens’ large social media following — 6.9 million on X and 4.47 million on YouTube — amplified the harm.
The suit meticulously lists Owens’ statements, documents the Macrons’ attempts to stop them, and outlines the resulting damages, including harassment, public degradation, and harm to their standing as world leaders. It also highlights Owens’ personal financial gain from spreading the falsehoods, a key factor in defamation cases.
The case is being handled by Clare Locke, the same firm that secured the $800 million Dominion defamation settlement against Fox News. The Macrons themselves have previously won defamation suits, making them formidable plaintiffs in this case.
Good luck, Candace, you're going to need it.
it is funny it is a french person challenging this , i would have thought Big mike would have sued people by now about the videos of his bulge showing under the dress.
The claim of Candace Owens is that she has, or once had, a penis.
That's easy to DISprove, with one doctor's exam.
It's not politically expedient for the Obama's to engage in your stupidity, but it is for the Macrons. It's very good politics for the Macrons to destroy a horrible American grifter. Everyone in Europe would love to see it.
I'm sure that Ownens' lawyers will come up with lots of confusing nonsense,
like you are trying to do, but a judge deals in FACTS.
There is a lot to this case that could be difficult, but disproving the claim
of Candace Owens is the easiest part.
If Ownens' lawyers can't resist the opportunity to make this a spectacle around
the sex/gender debate, they will LOSE.
"Automatic 4% annual Medicare cuts starting in 2026 — driven by the statutory “PAYGO” rule, which enforces across-the-board reductions in response to the massive deficit increase.
Roughly $490 billion–$500 billion in cuts over the 2026–2034 period to Medicare spending.
The House Budget Committee also notes up to $535 billion in cumulative Medicare cuts during 2026–2034 ($45 billion in 2026 rising to $75 billion in 2034)"
The "massive deficit increase" is because of the big tax-cuts for the wealthy.
All the cuts are delayed, so you won't notice much, until Democrats are back in office.
Then Republicans can blame Democrats for your complete collapse of Medicare.
Exactly how they blamed Democrats for the high inflation that Trump caused by adding $8 trillion to your debt, which also all ended up in the pockets of the wealthy, eventually.
[When you pay companies to keep paying wages, that's a handout to the employers, not
the employees. When you pay people to be able to afford food and rent, that's a handout
to supermarkets and landlords, not to people. I remind you that it was a GLOBAL crisis
and that it's not an option to leave most working people without income, food and housing.
That would be a complete collapse of the country. You can chose to put that bill on the wealthy, or you can chose to compensate all the employers, supermarkets and landlords with tax-dollars. Trump of course chose the latter and that resulted in high inflation, which mostly hurt the working class. The working class is also the main tax-payer, so you're paying for it TWICE, to compensate for the debt. And now the working class is getting fucked over a THIRD time, because Trump promised the wealthy people more massive
tax-cults, so they would help him win/steal the election, which YOU have to pay for.]
for his win/steal. Trump only wanted to be president, so he could get out of jail
and continue enriching themself, on the tax-payer's credit.
Why does that look beautiful to you? YOU won't ever see a cent of those cuts.
It's literally socialism for the wealthy, reverse-RobinHood. You ain't wealthy!
You might be richer than most of your friends here, but this will hurt you too.
It's all worth it for you, as long as he hurts the brown people, isn't it?
But, you could try to be efficient. What do you think is wrong?
I could try to answer efficiently too, because reading isn't your thing either.
we also couldn't get any help to deal with the physical abuse she suffered by the staff, we would report it and it went unchecked.
it is fraud, now, take your brain and use it, if the nursing homes are leaving people needing trimmed nails ,that is abuse, criminal. then a nurse or supervisor signs off for a dr to do foot surgery, which he never did, that is fraud. the nurses trimmed the nails and got kick backs for signing the papers. this i know and it was all presented to medicare in dc, the reply was, " we don't have the staffing to enforce minor infractions. " i would send you pics of the paper work but it is locked in the safe and it would exspose to much private info.
You want to trade stories? My daughter's daughter, my first grandchild, is totally disabled. She needs constant care. She gets food through a tube in her stomach. As you can imagine, it has to be liquid AND have the whole nutritional value of regular people food. This formula comes from Germany. It costs $10,000/month. The special wheel chair she needs to support her spine cost over $5000 . The nurses and care tackers have to be paid at regular rates for specialized nurses. I don't even know how much that is. Her Dad couldn't take it and blew his brains out when she was 9. She turned 29 last July 1. Iv it wasn't for Medicaid she would be dead. So, Phart, lets compare notes.
more scrutiny when it comes to doling out taxpayer money is what is needed.
It's just not the billions that you say it is.
And Elon Musk and his gang haven't found ANY real fraud.
Where are all the lawsuits then, when he found ALL that fraud?
Your country already has audits of all your government agencies. They always find SOME waste, fraud and abuse, but where Elon was looking, those are some of the cleanest agencies you have.
In November 2022, the DoD failed its FIFTH consecutive audit, reportedly unable to account for 61% of its assets—amounting to roughly $2.1 trillion out of a $3.5 trillion total asset base.
It is 100% clear that there IS a lot of unaccounted money in your Department of Defense. Did Elon go there?
No, of course not, because Elon himself gets lots of money from the Department of Defense and he doesn't want any investigation on how he's spending that money.
Your social security system was audited in 2022 too:
SSA Financial Audits: “Unmodified Opinion”
The FY 2022 Agency Financial Report (AFR) marked the SSA’s 36th year producing audited financial statements and the 29th consecutive year receiving an unmodified opinion (meaning “clean” audit)
For Old‑Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI) from FY 2015–2022, only 0.84% of total benefit payments were improper, though this still amounted to $71.8 billion.
How much are they cutting Social Security?
A 2021 SSA OASDI accuracy review found:
99.3% case accuracy for overpayments, and
98.3% case accuracy for underpayments.
Dollar accuracy rates were similarly high: 99.4% for overpayments and 98.5% for underpayments.
Administrative costs in 2023 were about 0.5% of total benefits paid (roughly $7.2 billion expense against $1.38 trillion payout)
Related to Medicaid and Medicare.
Medicaid: ~$81 billion in improper payments
Medicare: ~$31.7 billion in improper payments
How much are they cutting again?
When you want to make systems more efficient, that takes a lot of effort.
You cannot just CUT waste fraud and abuse. That's primitive thinking.
and convictions? Do they let all those fraudsters just walk away?
Why is your administration not providing any evidence of fraud?
I've only seen some records that Elon posted, which were debunked in a day.
It only shows that Elon criminally intercepted contract approved payments.
He should be indicted for that, but of course he is protected.
The ones who protect Elon have all the reason to prosecute the fraudsters.
They fact that they are not doing that shows that it's ALL a lie.
ChatGPT: "Did DOGE find actual fraud, that is now getting indicted?"
🚨 Short Answer
No, as of now, DOGE has not uncovered documented fraud that resulted in criminal indictments. Despite its bold claims, investigative reporting and expert analysis suggest no verified cases where DOGE’s actions led to charges.
🗂️ What DOGE Claimed
DOGE promoted findings of “billions” in fraud, waste, and abuse, targeting government programs like Social Security, Medicaid, and IRS spending.
Their website tracked substantial savings—though many were later corrected or removed after journalists flagged errors.
DOGE also initiated an investigation into the SEC, calling for public input on alleged misconduct in the regulatory body.
🔍 Independent Reviews & Critiques
Independent audits have found that many DOGE “savings” claims were either grossly exaggerated or incorrect (like an $8 billion claim later shown to be $8 million).
Former DOGE employees and critics have stated publicly that true fraud investigations were rare or non-existent. One engineer noted most issues stemmed from software errors, not fraud.
Multiple Reddit threads feature users stating:
“DOGE has found ZERO documented cases of fraud. None.”
“Despite the hype, DOGE hasn't found a shred of fraud.”
⚖️ Legal & Governmental Actions
In March 2025, Pam Bondi (former Florida AG) announced that the DOJ would criminally investigate DOGE’s claims of fraud. However, no indictments or formal prosecutions have been reported.
Meanwhile, federal judges have blocked DOGE from accessing Social Security and Treasury systems, labeling its approach a “fishing expedition” and questioning the lack of supporting evidence.
📋 Summary Table
Aspect What Actually Happened
DOGE claimed to find fraud Yes — but evidence was not verified
Reported “savings” and discrepancies Many claims retracted or significantly reduced
Classified cases referred to DOJ Some referrals (e.g. voter-roll matches), but no known indictments
Independent auditor stance Most findings considered debatable or exaggerated
Lawsuits / court pushback Judges blocked access; critics called DOGE’s methodology flawed
✅ Final Note
To date, DOGE has not produced any verified cases of fraud that have led to criminal charges. The majority of its high-profile claims have been debunked or discredited after scrutiny, and there are no confirmed indictments based on DOGE’s investigations.
“The One Big Beautiful Bill Act is the most pro-worker, pro-family, and pro-America legislation we’ve seen in decades. It means bigger paychecks for middle class families, stronger borders, a stronger military, and more freedom for every North Carolinian. I’m proud to help steer this fight, and under President Trump’s leadership, we’re just getting started.”
Wages are up by $5,500-$10,500
Take-Home Pay up by $7,200-$12,200
NO TAXES on TIPS or OVERTIME
Support for our farmers, veterans, and rural broadband
Made-in-America manufacturing incentives for NC job creators
What’s Actually in the One Big Beautiful Bill?
DELIVERS HISTORIC ECONOMIC RELIEF:
Prevents the largest tax increase in American history
Secures bigger paychecks, boosting the take-home pay for hardworking typical families by OVER $10,000 a year.
Historic tax relief for workers with a 15% average tax cut for Americans earning $15,000–$80,000.
No Taxes on Tips and No Taxes on Overtime
Made-in-America Auto Tax Breaks on new American-made vehicles.
Increases the standard deduction, ensuring North Carolinians keep more of their hard-earned money.
PUTS MAIN STREET OVER WALL STREET:
Doubles small business expensing, helping local businesses hire more workers and expand their operations.
Permanently renews and strengthens Opportunity Zones, unlocking $100B+ of investment and 1+ million jobs for rural and distressed communities.
Incentivizes Made-in-America manufacturing with full expensing for new factories and upgrades— unleashing investments in rapid factory building.
DESIGNED WITH FAMILIES IN MIND:
Increases and makes permanent the Child Tax Credit, supporting over 40 million families.
Expands childcare access and makes the paid leave tax credit permanent.
Creates Trump Savings Accounts for newborns.
Delivers school choice, making education more affordable and allowing families to choose the education that best fits their child’s needs.
INVESTS IN RURAL AMERICA:
Expands crop insurance and improves risk management tools.
Boosts market access by reducing trade barriers to help North Carolina farmers compete globally.
Supports family farms by raising the death tax exemption—protecting two million family farms from punitive double taxation.
RESTORES FISCAL SANITY:
Slashes deficits by roughly $2 trillion — and secures historic levels of mandatory savings.
Protects taxpayer dollars by removing waste, fraud, and abuse from federal programs, so they can better serve the great people of North Carolina
KEEPS AMERICA SAFE:
Funds the Golden Dome missile defense system to protect our homeland from 21st-century threats.
Ensures our military has the resources to remain ready, capable, and a lethal fighting force.
Secures our coast with the biggest upgrade to the Coast Guard since World War II — delivering the tools needed to stop illegal activity by sea and fight fentanyl smuggling.
MODERNIZES AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL:
$12.5 billion to overhaul air traffic control, replacing obsolete technology dating back to the 1960s with modern systems that improve safety, speed, and efficiency.
Replaces FAA’s deteriorating towers and radar systems and upgrades telecommunications.
Addresses the staffing shortage and funds FAA training and recruitment.
PERMANENTLY SECURES OUR BORDERS:
Delivers President Trump’s law-and-order agenda: deporting criminal illegal aliens, securing our border, and supporting law enforcement.
Supports our Border Patrol and ICE agents with a $10,000 bonus annually over the next four years. Also delivers needed reinforcements — hiring 10,000 new ICE personnel, 5,000 new Customs officers, and 3,000 new Border Patrol agents.
Finishes the border wall.
UNLEASHES AMERICAN ENERGY DOMINANCE:
Ends weaponization of permitting and unlocks domestic oil, gas, and nuclear power.
Unleashes American energy, driving down the cost of living and restoring energy independence.
Rescinds BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars poured into the 'Green New SCAM,' ending handouts to special interests and radical climate activists.
Refills our Strategic Petroleum Reserve after the Biden Administration depleted our emergency supply. Energy security is national security.
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WOW!!
did you read that??
updates to our aged air traffic control system.
saves the family farm while it is passed down to each new generation,
makes school choice more affordable,
wow so many good things.
why do dems always focus on the bad>?
This is a **promotional summary** of the *One Big Beautiful Bill Act* from a pro-Trump or Republican-aligned source. It emphasizes the **benefits** and **talking points**, often using **best-case projections**, while omitting or minimizing the bill’s **cuts to social safety nets, healthcare, and clean energy**.
Here’s a **breakdown** of what’s **fact**, what’s **spin**, and what’s **missing**, based on independent analysis:
🔍 **CLAIMS VS. REALITY**
🧾 CLAIM: *"Wages up by $5,500–$10,500; Take-home pay up by $7,200–$12,200"*
**Spin**: These are *projections* based on tax cuts and hypothetical wage growth. They **don’t reflect guaranteed raises**—they assume trickle-down from corporate tax incentives.
* **Reality**: Independent estimates show modest average tax savings for middle-income earners (~$1,200–$1,800/year), while **high earners** gain much more.
* **Meanwhile**, these savings are offset by **cuts to Medicaid, SNAP, and public services** many families rely on.
💰 CLAIM: *"No Taxes on Tips and Overtime"*
**Partially True**: The bill **exempts tip income and overtime wages** from federal income tax—but **not from payroll taxes** (like Social Security/Medicare).
**Benefit**: Good for tipped workers and those in gig/hospitality industries.
**Caveat**: Critics argue this creates complexity and encourages underreporting.
🧒 CLAIM: *"Expands Child Tax Credit; Supports 40M Families"*
**Half-true**: The Child Tax Credit is increased and made permanent, but **not fully refundable** like in the 2021 American Rescue Plan.
* So **poorer families may get less or nothing** unless they have taxable income—unlike under Biden’s expanded version.
🧺 CLAIM: *"Slashes Deficits by $2 Trillion"*
**False by most neutral estimates**: The bill **increases** the federal deficit by **$3.4 trillion over 10 years**, mainly due to permanent tax cuts for individuals and corporations ([CRFB](https://www.crfb.org/)).
🌽 CLAIM: *"Supports Farmers; Raises Death Tax Exemption"*
**True, but skewed**: Increasing the estate tax exemption helps **very wealthy landowners**, not most small farmers (only about 0.1% of estates were taxed under prior law).
* Crop insurance/rural support may help, but **Medicaid cuts hurt rural hospitals and elderly care**—a major concern in red states.
🔨 CLAIM: *"Massive manufacturing and small business tax relief"*
**Partly true**: The bill includes **expensing for capital investment**, lower corporate tax rates, and extended Opportunity Zones.
* Critics argue this **overwhelmingly favors large firms and developers**, with little oversight.
🌎 CLAIM: *"Ends Green New Scam; unleashes energy"*
**Very partisan framing**. The bill:
* **Repeals EV tax credits**
* Cuts **wind, solar, energy efficiency credits**
* **Prioritizes oil, gas, coal**, and **nuclear** production
* It **rescinds climate spending** from the Inflation Reduction Act, which was helping transition rural areas to cheaper renewable sources.
⚔️ CLAIM: *"Boosts ICE, Border Patrol, Coast Guard"*
**True**: Massive new funding—$10,000 annual bonuses, **10,000 new ICE agents**, and finishing the wall.
* This is a **central part** of the bill and appeals to immigration hawks.
* Critics argue it's **militarized overreach**, with limited effect on fentanyl (which mostly comes through legal ports).
🚨 WHAT’S MISSING
1. **Cuts to Medicaid & SNAP**
* Over **$1 trillion** in combined cuts.
* Work requirements, reduced eligibility, and state funding burdens.
2. **Defunding of Clean Energy and Climate Programs**
* Bill rolls back **Biden-era climate legislation**.
* Long-term cost: delays clean energy transition, likely increases emissions.
3. **Impact on Poor & Disabled Americans**
* Work requirements could push **millions off aid**, including seniors, disabled, and caregivers.
* **Rural hospitals**, especially in red states, face funding losses.
4. **Long-term Cost to Deficit**
* While marketed as “fiscally sane,” independent economists say the bill will **add over $3 trillion** to the national debt.
🧾 FINAL VERDICT
**Category** | **Verdict** -------------------------- | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
**Tax Cuts for Workers** | Mostly true, but benefits **skew to upper-middle class and wealthy** |
**Support for Families** | Partly true, but **excludes lowest-income households** |
**Rural and Farm Support** | Partly true, **estate tax changes help rich farmers more than small ones** |
**Border & Military** | Accurate—**major investments and personnel increases** |
**Fiscal Responsibility** | **False** — deficit likely to rise significantly |
**Energy & Environment** | **True but partisan framing** — major rollback of clean-energy investments |
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It's all skewed to the middle class and the wealthy.
Did they have problems paying for groceries?
all i see is cuts to programs that are blotted and defrauded constantly.
women get pregnant, get a low income house on the governments dime, baby daddy gets job at ups warehouse, both drive cadillacs. this happened in 1999 and was witnessed by myself and 3 other people i know. once reported, the woman was booted out of the government housing.
You cannot cut SNAP, without it hurting the poor.
It's bullshit propaganda that all those programs are bloated and fraudulent.
You think feeding the poor is waste by definition, but those programs are doing
what they are designed to do, pretty efficiently, and people rely on them.
“The One Big Beautiful Bill Act is the most pro-worker, pro-family, and pro-America legislation we’ve seen in decades. It means bigger paychecks for middle class families, stronger borders, a stronger military, and more freedom for every North Carolinian. I’m proud to help steer this fight, and under President Trump’s leadership, we’re just getting started.”
Wages are up by $5,500-$10,500
Take-Home Pay up by $7,200-$12,200
NO TAXES on TIPS or OVERTIME
Support for our farmers, veterans, and rural broadband
Made-in-America manufacturing incentives for NC job creators
All this within hours of the Clown signing this disaster in the making.
not the opposite, in the "big beautiful bill".
About 60-72% of the total tax relief is going to the top 20%.
The top 5% gets about 45% of the total tax relief.
The top 1% will get about $600 billion in tax-cuts over a decade.
It's impossible to do that, without it affecting the rest of you.
Since most of the tax-cuts are unaccounted for, it adds $3-4 billion to the debt by 2034.
That will increase inflation for those people who already cannot afford groceries.
Trump is doing what you accused Biden of doing AGAIN.
And he isn't doing it with investments into your economy, like Biden did,
he is doing it to reward his wealthy donors.
Here’s a URL that agrees with some of the stuff you said and much that you didn’t say.
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the gals that keep me fed at the local grill don't make over 25,000 in tips per year. so they would never be paying taxes on tips.
that would help them alot by increasing their bring home from tips by about 18% would it not?
We all know that 'if' Trump cured cancer, he would still be demonized.
Nobel peace prize for Trump. Accomplished more in 5 months than mr dementia did in 4 years.
Sorry for the last remark, I do not think mr dementia made any improving accomplishments. Just anything to help take down America.
Sorry for the rant.
NOW I ASK AGAIN: If you want to destroy America and American values what would you do different than that feeble old excuse of a 'MAN' we had for four catastrophic years?
I know the fucking word 'existential' means something, just not what the looney left was and is pushing.
Side with the loons, then live with the loons.
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