Your views, thoughts or simply opinions. The Economy is not well (understatement). I know there are some here that will try to link the country they are residing in as problems of the USA. Sorry the USA cannot be responsible for 100% of the problems in the world nor should they be expected to help repair all problems.
Yes of course. Conservatives don't think. Its because they don't have to.. They rely on critical reasoning. Tells me your reasoning skills are indeed primitive.
Have you seen the stack of files for just the concept of a plan for Trump's ACA replacement? It got NOWHERE, because his people are not up to the challenge.
All they did was break parts of it.
That's just one small detail of what it takes to run a country.
Just the sheer complexity of working in a bigger company would astound you.
Since you don't have any experience on that, you don't know enough to know
how much you don't know.
Wisdom is indee the ability to use your knowledge, experience, and good sense to make sound choices and understand what is true or right. It goes beyond just memorizing facts, allowing a person to handle difficult life situations well.
But the problem here is you cant graph wisdom since it is not a mathematical model.
Core Parts of Wisdom Insight: Seeing beneath the surface of complex problems
.Good judgment: Making smart, safe choices based on past events.
Action: Doing the right or helpful thing with what you know. But what I feel based on knowledge is socialism vs. democracy shows that socialism will never work.. Democracy is the ability of being educated which the prerequisite is educating the population with judicial knowledge to the best of their ability in the persuit of utopia ,,
While socialism is based on rule of the people surpressing them of finding the truth with judicial knowledge and wisdom. Those that disregard control from the surpresser resulting in death or worse --> cansorship.lol
Instead of slandering trump while showing hatred of Jews the socialst needs to find answers as to why he feels this way and what would be the better solution of reaching utopia..
Close, but it's also self-awareness and the ability to recognize the limits of your own knowledge, exactly like referred to with the model.
Knowledge helps you know what is true.
Experience helps you know what tends to work.
Good sense helps you make sound choices.
But wisdom also involves judgment about what truly matters,
what is worth pursuing, sacrificing for, or letting go of.
"While socialism is based on rule of the people surpressing them" No it's not, Socialism is a society based on equality, solidarity, and human dignity, in which wealth and power are democratically shared and controlled by the people.
Your explanation of democracy is quite tangled, but I assume you mean something like: "Democracy requires an educated population, because citizens need knowledge and understanding to participate meaningfully in governing society and pursuing a better, or ideal, society."
Democracy = representation + a mechanism for translating citizens' preferences into political decisions.
If by Utopia you mean: an (imagined) ideal society in which human institutions and social conditions are arranged so well that major forms of injustice, suffering, and conflict have been overcome, than that COULD be the end result of democracy, but that would require something like this:
1. People know what a good society actually looks like.
2. People's preferences are substantially aligned with that conception of the good.
3. Citizens have accurate information about the consequences of different policies.
4. The political system translates those preferences accurately, without corruption, manipulation, or disproportionate influence from elites.
5. People can resolve disagreements peacefully.
6. There are enough resources and technological capabilities to implement what people want.
7. The resulting institutions remain stable and adaptable as circumstances change.
If you think that what i say about Trump is slander, than show it to be WRONG, because statements that are substantially true are NOT defamatory, even if it damages someone's reputation.
I don't like to be accused of 'hatred of Jews'. Better put some evidence to that claim.
Socialism is based on control of the people where democracy gives the control to the nation as a whole where government does not tell you what to do or paying taxes even. All sovereignty is what the people stand for.
Logic is systemic patterns while wisdom understands the true nature of existence by ways of how you feel creating beauty and "Ideas" Wisdom comprises of infinate multiverses while logic just possesses 1. Socialism is also a means of idol worship where materialism is based for the one's in power not for the people as a whole. Socialism especially communism does not provide national sovereignty since it occupies a land to take power from the people only to flourish for themselves. Example is Iran.
Socialism and democracy are not direct opposites; rather, socialism is an economic system focused on collective or public ownership of production, while democracy is a political system where power rests with the people through free elections. They can intersect, as seen in democratic socialism, or conflict, as seen in authoritarian socialism.Core DefinitionsSocialism: An economic model where the community or government controls the means of production and distribution to reduce inequality.Democracy: A political model where citizens choose their leaders through competitive and fair elections.Intersection: Systems can blend both concepts, allowing people to vote on economic regulations and social welfare programs.Key Differences in PracticeGovernance: Democracy focuses on political rights and voting processes, whereas socialism targets economic distribution and property ownership.Compatibilities: Democratic socialism uses democratic means to achieve social economic goals, while historical authoritarian socialism rejected multi-party democracy for state control.Focus: Democracy asks who holds political power, while socialism asks who owns the economic wealth.
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DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISM.
Socialism and communism are both economic and political ideas that want to share wealth and stop the unfairness of capitalism. In short, socialism lets people keep personal property and pays them based on how hard they work, while communism removes private property entirely and gives goods to people based on their needs.Property and Ownership
Socialism: People can still own personal items and small things. Big industries and factories belong to the public or the government.Communism: No one owns private property. Everything belongs to the community or the state for everyone to share.How People Get PaidSocialism: Workers get paid based on their individual work, effort, and skill.
Communism: Goods and supplies are given to people based simply on what they need to live.How the System Changes Society
Socialism: Changes happen slowly through regular laws and voting inside the current government.
Communism: Changes happen through a sudden, total revolution where workers take over completely.
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DEMOCRACY VS. COMMUNISM.
. Democracy uses a system where people vote in free elections and can own private property. Communism uses a system where a single party controls the government and owns all property and businesses.
Political DifferencesDemocracy: Multiple political parties compete for power through fair votes. Citizens have legal rights like free speech and freedom of the press.Communism: One single party holds all the power. The state limits or bans political opposition and public dissent.Economic DifferencesDemocracy: Usually paired with capitalism. People and private companies own land, stores, and factories. Market prices depend on supply and demand.
Communism: The government owns the major industries, farms, and resources. The state plans production and tries to remove economic gaps between social classes.
. Democracy gives power to all the people through voting. Monarchy gives power to one single royal ruler, usually for life.
Utopia is a concept up for debate. It exists on pure justice. How do we know the definition of justice other than our desires are to do the right thing? Basically and in a fundamental way Utopia is defined as a desire by which we seek altruistic existence through the will to bestow,,, or in christian terms---- to sacrifice for the benefit of others not to oneself.
Some of what you're saying is true or partly true, but there are also claims in your comment that are not accurate or far too absolute.
“Socialism” means different things to different people because it is not one single, universally agreed system. It is a broad family of ideas with a long history. Marx developed one influential theory, but there have also been democratic socialists, social democrats, market socialists, revolutionary socialists, and many others, often disagreeing about what socialism should look like and how to achieve it.
The term is also used in different ways. It can describe an ideal economic system, a political movement seeking such a system, or individual “socialist” policies, such as public ownership, welfare programs, or worker-owned businesses. Supporting one such policy does not necessarily mean wanting to replace capitalism entirely.
On top of that, many parties and governments have called themselves socialist while pursuing very different goals. Some genuinely seek major changes to ownership and the economy; others mainly support regulated capitalism and a strong welfare state. And some leaders have used the label while creating systems quite different from traditional socialist ideals.
Finally, especially in American political debate, “socialism” is often used as a catch-all for almost any government intervention; taxes, healthcare, welfare, regulation, and so on. This can create a straw-man definition in which socialism simply means “the government does things.”
So before arguing about whether something is “socialist,” the first question should be: what do you mean by socialism, and if I mean something else, is it even helpful to use the term?
I use the term 'socialism' that is close to the original theory of Marx, but I don't care about that. I care about a modern version, that is constantly updated to the current state of the world, while keeping true to the ideals. I am an active member of the Dutch Socialist Party. The SP's socialism is as a living political tradition, rather than a fixed blueprint. Its principles are rooted in human dignity, equality, and solidarity, but its goal is not to mechanically reproduce an old model. It is about continually asking how much democratic control people have over the forces that shape their lives, and how that control can be expanded. “Government of the people, by the people, for the people”, which emphasizes democracy BEYOND just elections.
That makes it fundamentally pragmatic. The world changes, so socialism has to change with it. Climate change is a good example: the question is not simply what an ideal future economic system should look like, but how we deal with the reality that climate damage already falls disproportionately on people with less power and wealth. If an economic system repeatedly puts profit above the conditions needed for a liveable planet, then changing that system becomes more than a desirable political project, it can become a necessity.
This is also why socialism shouldn't be reduced to individual policies such as public healthcare or welfare. Those can be socialist policies, but the broader idea is democratising economic and social power. Sometimes that means public ownership, sometimes regulation, sometimes collective or worker ownership, and sometimes entirely new solutions that fit circumstances we haven't encountered before.
In that sense, the SP can be understood as pragmatic in its methods but principled in its direction: it adapts to reality without abandoning human dignity, equality, solidarity, and the continual expansion of democracy. That is quite different from treating socialism as a rigid system with a predetermined endpoint.
The problem with this description is that it treats “communism” as if it has one fixed meaning, when in reality the word has been used for both an ideal and for very different political systems that claimed to represent that ideal.
The description you give is largely a description of authoritarian communist states of the 20th century and their centrally planned economies: one-party rule, state ownership of major industries, political repression, and central economic planning. It is understandable that someone would associate communism with this, because those governments often called themselves communist. But that does not make those characteristics the definition of communism itself.
In the tradition associated with Marx, communism was conceived very differently: as a classless society based on common ownership, in which the enormous inequalities created by the division between owners and workers had been overcome. It was not simply “the government owns everything.” In fact, a state that permanently concentrates economic and political power in the hands of a ruling party is difficult to reconcile with the idea of a society in which class domination has actually disappeared.
This is an important distinction between an ideal and a particular historical attempt to achieve it. You can reasonably argue about whether communist ideals are achievable, desirable, or internally consistent. But it is not accurate to define the ideal entirely by the systems that claimed to be building it.
That is why statements such as “communism means one-party government” or “communism means the government owns all the factories” are too narrow. Those describe particular forms of state socialism and historical communist regimes, not communism as a political and philosophical ideal.
And this is precisely why the word can become almost useless without clarification. At one end, someone may mean a theoretical classless and ultimately stateless society; at the other, they may mean the political-economic system of a particular authoritarian state. Those are enormously different things. A serious discussion therefore has to distinguish between communism as an ideal, communist movements, and governments that called themselves communist rather than treating them as interchangeable.
I have a problem with you defining utopia primarily through altruism and self-sacrifice. If utopia is an imagined society of justice and human flourishing, why would sacrificing oneself be its defining feature?
A utopian vision seems better expressed through unity, acceptance, equality, abundance, empathy, generosity, and human possibility. The goal is not for people to constantly give up their own wellbeing for others, but to imagine a society where one person's wellbeing does not have to come at another's expense.
Perhaps “sacrifice” means giving up selfishness to you, the belief that our interests must always come before everyone else's. But that is very different from sacrificing our happiness or prosperity. In a society of abundance and opportunity, why assume people must remain selfish?
I therefore see empathy rather than altruism as the more fitting principle. Helping others does not necessarily mean acting against our own interests, generosity and cooperation can themselves be fulfilling.
Utopia, then, need not require people to become saints. It can be the aspiration toward a society where people flourish together, with enough freedom, equality, security and opportunity that cooperation becomes natural rather than something imposed through self-denial.
Utopia, then, need not require people to become saints. It can be the aspiration toward a society where people flourish together, with enough freedom, equality, security and opportunity that cooperation becomes natural rather than something imposed through self-denial./////////
Empathy is directly related to altruism.. Here, I'll make it easier for you..Kardashev Scale is a method used to measure civilizations from 1 to 7
Type I
A civilization "close to the level currently achieved on Earth, with an energy consumption of ≈4×1019 erg/sec" (4×1012 watts).A Type I civilization is usually defined as one that can harness all the energy that reaches its home planet from its parent star (for Earth, this value is about 2×1017 watts), which is about four orders of magnitude higher than the amount currently achieved on Earth, with an energy consumption of ≈2×1013 watts by 2020. The astronomer Guillermo A. Lemarchand defined Type I as a level close to today's terrestrial civilization, with an energy capacity equivalent to Earth's solar irradiance, between 1016 and 1017 watts.
Type 2
A civilization capable of harnessing the energy radiated by its own large star – for example, by successfully completing a Dyson sphere or Matrioshka brain – with an energy consumption of ≈4×1033 erg/sec. Lemarchand defined such civilizations as being able to harness and channel the entire radiation output of their star. The energy consumption would then be comparable to the luminosity of the Sun, about 4×1033 erg/sec (4×1026 watts).
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Type 3
A civilization with energy on the scale of its own galaxy, with an energy consumption of ≈4×1044 erg/sec. Lemarchand defined civilizations of this type as having access to energy comparable to the luminosity of the entire Milky Way galaxy, about 4×1044 erg/sec (4×1037 watts).
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Type 4
By this level it is possible to exist with no physical existence. Only pure energy, pure thought and heart. However it is still not considered as utopia,,, yet
A Type 4 civilization is a hypothetical, highly advanced society on an extended Kardashev Scale that can harness the entire energy output of the universe or a massive cluster of galaxies (roughly 10⁴⁶ watts). Nikolai Kardashev's original 1964 scale only went up to Type 3, but later futurists added Type 4 to describe universal mastery
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Type 5
A Level 5 (or Type V) civilization is a purely theoretical society on an extended Kardashev Scale that has gained god-like mastery over the multiverse. Instead of being limited to one planet, star, galaxy, or even universe, this civilization harnesses and controls energy, matter, and physical laws across multiple alternate realities or dimensions
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Type 6
A Type 6 civilization is a hypothetical, god-like society on an extended Kardashev Scale that harnesses the power of multiple multiverses, manipulating the fundamental laws of physics, space-time, and reality itself
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Type 7
A Type 7 civilization is a purely theoretical level of advancement at the absolute limit of the extended Kardashev Scale. While Nikolai Kardashev's original scale only went up to Type III (galactic), expanded modern theoretical frameworks add higher tiers up to Type VII, representing mastery over the entire omniverse, all dimensions, and reality itself.
In conclusion, it has been figured out that our level is computed to 0.71. which is not even level 1. Even up to level 7 there is a microscope very small residue of egoism. Level 7 does not devoid of 100% therefore it is not measured as utopia yet. The critical factor of germanation is between now and level 2 of whether a civilization survives or destroys itself. In defined terms democracy is not a ruled filled structure but rather than the desire to reach utopia. How do we find utopia? Learning with no idol worship like gold or money
Sure, empathy and altruism are related. However, I don't think it requires altruism to achieve Utopia, it just requires an understanding that what benefits humanity benefits ourselves.
Technical advancements to anything even close to a Type 1 civilization requires collaboration. At the moment, people cannot even agree that climate change is real. We are heading towards a cliff at breakneck speed, some of us say "Stop!" and other push the accelerator. How do we reach global ascendance, if we cannot even agree on solving a problem, that at the minimum will cause great damage and suffering, probably cause massive conflict and mass starvation, and possibly result in the self-destruction of humanity?
Would you let half of the planet starve or work like slaves, for the other half
to progress through the Kardashev Scales? If not, it requires a shift from the current politics and economy, because the current one is working for a shrinking share of the population.
Actually empathy is a prerequisite for Utopia.. Here's my take....... Utopia is perfect... Since we are imperfect beings especially at < level 1 there is too much egoism which is the primary reason of pain and suffering such as poverty and starvation. By the time you reach level 4 civilization poverty and starvation will no longer exist including death since you no longer need physical form just relying on energy from the cosmos. However there is a trace of egoism that lingers still.. That's subject of debate. Democracy is not a physical entity. Its basically a desire,,,, we can measure this desire in relation from the beginning to today on brain capacity. On day one brain capacity was between 6-8%. Now its between 10-14% several million years later. Remarably Dolphins are ahead of us with 20%
. Level 1 civilization is predicted to be achieved in approximately 200 years. We plot curves and series by use of Eulor's Formula. Not just for today but predictions of the far distant future.. Another theory is once we achieve 100% brain capacity we will no longer need physical form but actually be everywhere.
By level 4 poverty will become obsolete since money no longer has meaning because whatever we need is obtained by using cosmic energy. Soon after that our structures will stem from within creating multiverses..
Any reason for why we would need to be in Utopia, to reach a Type 1 civilization?
There is a big margin between a 'Utopia' and humanity NOT damaging/destroying itself by neglecting to solve world problems.
We also don't NEED to be perfect beings to solve world problems.
We have done it before, as imperfect as we are.
The desire isn't democracy. The desire is NOT to be dominated, to not be subject to someone else's arbitrary power. Democracy is a way of organizing political power in response to that desire. Democracy might be the best way of organizing to NOT to be dominated, but lots of people say that the now prefer some benevolent dictator. That dictator might dominate OTHER people, but not THEM, they think.
I don't want to straw-man you, but do you think that 90%-86% of our brain is doing nothing? Both humans and dolphins use 100% of their brains. The 10% brain myth is based on a misinterpretation of early neurology research and misquoted psychology lectures from the late 1800s and early 1900s. Early brain scientists found that stimulating certain parts of the brain with electricity caused no muscle movement. They labeled these areas "silent cortex," which people mistakenly took to mean "unused." In reality, these areas handle complex thinking, language, and planning.
HOW would we achieve a Level 1 civilization in approximately 200 years?
It takes a huge system of cooperating entities to achieve anything.
Do you think that anything supportive of that achievement is happening
in the Middle East? I don't think so, because their governments are preoccupied with keeping the people satisfied and docile enough to
not prefer death over living one day longer under their rule.
If the rest of the world turns to governments like that, there will be
no advancements whatsoever, there will only be societal collapse.
The reason we cannot advance is egoism , money, greed, power..
We do have the capacity of replacing fossil fules since many advancements were brought foward. However these people were either bought out or murdered so that the business model is preserved.
Yes, I agree; humanity is not doing well, because of egoism, money, greed, power, people with money and power taking advantage of people with much less or almost zero money and power.
There are not more or worse people with money and power today than we had ever in history, but still, we have had times of great advancement for almost everyone in history, while at this time we see a major slide back.
That's because people with almost zero money and power don't organize themselves anymore like they used to. People have fought, bled and died for the rights to not get exploited as much. That is what created those times of great advancement.
Now they believe the big lie of "trickle down economy" and the that cutting agencies that are protecting consumers is good, that deregulation is good. Sure, some regulations are hurting efficiency and effectiveness, but MOST have a good reason; like your house not falling apart, ten years after you bought it, or the construction workers who build it not dying in accidents.
Construction companies don't like those agencies and regulations, because they can make MORE MONEY when they are allowed to fuck over their employees and customers.
The technology is widely available. Solar panels are the cheapest electricity generating tech EVER, and they are still becoming cheaper and more efficient. The batteries to store that electricity during the day, so it can be used during the night are now ALSO cheaper than fossil fuel electricity. And it doesn't require lithium and cobalt anymore. They can use sodium now; which doesn't require pure sources, because it is so easy to refine.
The business model of fossil fuels is preserved by POLITICS; oil companies have lots of money and lots of politicians in their ranks. It's pure corruption why politicians are still investing taxpayer dollars in oil and not enough in renewable energy.
Good essay. As I have said before politics, platforms, idol worshipping with us at level 0.71 level is a very vary dangerous level of the germination phase of our civilization. If we are not to survive it will be because of power not being used responsibly. We could destroy the planet easily. This is a dangerous time. We are not at level 1 because we are not ready for it yet. We do have the technology but it sits dormant because of idol worshipping.
Good to hear something that we agree on. One question though;
why would you want our civilization to progress along those Kardashev Scales? Will it make us happier, when we consume more energy?
Civilization is wasting so much energy on things that does NOT make us happier. All those disposable products that last us only a few years, annoy the shit out of us as they reach their end of life, and then require money to replace. That's an economy that doesn't create happiness, but only creates wealth for a few people.
Why don't we focus more on what makes us happier, healthier and connected, and what provides us meaning and hope?
Oh absolutely. Rather than greed and lust for power our primary motive would be geared in bettering oneself. The key catalyst is desire,, in public what do you see that is based on altruism? It's all about money isn't it?
Are desires are still too primitive to encapsulate energy due to idol worship, lack of empathy and ignorance. The key element here is being openmindedness while creating better ideas.
Increasing levels would make mankind unified more and more creating a perfect sphere of altruism. Being happy is loving one another not by stealing, The ONLY way for happiness is altruistic desires... You can have all the money i8n the world but you will not find pure happiness until you can connect with a soul creating one. This is the main catalyst in progressing into level 1... We may not reach it destroying ourselves.
if we are to survive we must unify and become altruistic.. I said we are in danger right now with our own ignorance. From mow until say level 2 civilization lust for power could endeed destroy life on earth... "Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn.""Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed.""Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land.""Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours.""Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death." THIS IS OUR LEVEL OF 0.71 having the knowlege to progress but being ignorant if prolonged will be in our ultimate destruction,.
Another poem... When the Jews return to Zion(Israel) and the comet rips the sky the holy roman empire rises then you and I must die. Slow he(antichrist) rises creating armies on every shore turning man against his brother until man exists no more.
For us to be happy we need to do it together,,, No ruling but leadership which is so important, but then you need to be your own leader first, then share this knowledge known as being altruistic through the will to bestow... This is not to receive but having little but sharing whatever you have. This is pure happiness,,, Yes of course.. You will not achievive this by thinking but feeling the knowledge of doing the right thing..
Egoism is destroying us with isolation. Power is increasing hate. High platform medias are being used to turn us into hating each other. War in europe and the middle east is nothing but destructive. The United States made mistakes in keeping Irans regime in power too long. What happens next? How to clean up this mess? This is dangerous now that we have knowledge of Nuclear Weapons. The knowledge but not the wisdom with being an egoist? How many crazy rulers will it take?
You want a positive note? Ok, here is 1. Using our desires living today in order to create a better tomorrow,.
Aren't you saying: "Rather than greed and lust for power our primary motive would be geared in bettering oneself."?
OK, I agree, but why would increasing energy availability cause that change in motivation?
Technology gives you power to act on desires. It doesn't inherently tell you which desires are worth having.
A nuclear reactor doesn't become morally superior to a campfire. A civilization capable of harnessing the energy of an entire planet doesn't thereby become more compassionate than one that isn't.
You are conflating having A goal with having the RIGHT goal. A goal doesn't automatically make people better. Suppose humanity collectively adopts the goal: "Become a Type I civilization.". That gives people a direction, but it doesn't tell us why that direction is morally valuable.
Why not make the goal something intrinsically human? Suppose humanity says: "No human being should die of hunger when humanity possesses the resources and knowledge to prevent it.". That is already an enormous civilizational project. It requires technological development, agriculture, logistics, energy, political cooperation, economic organization, education, medicine, etc. But unlike "reach Type I," the goal has an independently intelligible connection to human welfare.
You are saying:
Become more technologically powerful → this will motivate us to become more altruistic.
I am suggesting:
Why not make altruistic improvement the GOAL ITSELF, and let technological progress be one of the means?
About your poem: When you say that, I think about Trump appropriating $74.85 billion in additional funding for ICE, including $45 billion for detention capacity and $29.85 billion for operations and procurement. Compare that with a US Federal police/law-enforcement budget of $61.7 billion.
"The United States made mistakes in keeping Irans regime in power too long."
Ask yourself why you say this? Is it maybe that the actions of the US in the past created this regime in Iran? If the US is so irresponsible as to cause regimes like that, why do you trust the US to undo their mistakes? How about we stop supporting the US as the superpower that needs to dominate every nation on earth? Trump didn't initiate a new era, in which the US only acts in the interests of American billionaires, and chooses to respect agreements only when it suits them, he just expressed it more clearly.
Iran is indeed a threat, but in no way are they a more dangerous threat than Russia, Saudi Arabia or North Korea. I don't trust those countries more than Iran, just because they relate to Trump a lot better. Iran isn't more dangerous, because they are fanatical crazies. Russia, Saudi Arabia and North Korea might have a higher percentage of fanatical crazies than Iran has. Even Trump agreed that most Iranians want to be free of their regime, and now he is bombing them and destroying their way of life. Is he trying to make them all hate us? Would Trump have started this war, if less Americans wouldn't have believed that Iran is the biggest threat in the world? And why do they believe that? Because the media tells them 24/7. And they don't bring a lot of facts to the table, just some talking heads spreading FEAR. They provide the FEELINGS, but not the FACTS. And that's how people are MANIPULATED to support ideas that hurt them, their family and humanity as a whole.
And then you are saying: "You will not achievive this by thinking but feeling the knowledge of doing the right thing..". False! Feelings are pushed upon people by the media that is bought and paid for.
Let's go over something I referenced to earlier, but a bit more concise:
1) Knowledge tells us what is possible or true.
2) Experience tells us what is likely.
3) Good sense tells us what is appropriate here and now.
4) Wisdom tells us what is worth choosing.
I numbered them, because I see an as increasing depth of judgment in them.
1) A computer can accumulate knowledge
2) AI can now provide judgment about patterns.
3) AI cannot do this yet. Most people struggle with it too.
4) AI cannot do this yet. Only extraordinary people get close.
Those extraordinary people have not gained wisdom from feelings, but from deep thinking about what makes us human. When those people speak, they are humble, but they communicate insight to everyone who has the ability to recognize it. But those are not the people who are picked to be leaders by the people. They pick someone who provides the following, and ALL of it is based on FEELINGS:
- Simplification tells people what is wrong.
- Tribalism tells them who is "us".
- Anger/scapegoating tells them who is to blame.
- Strength tells them who can fight the enemy.
- Storytelling tells them what the struggle means.
- Ambition puts the individual leader at the center of it.
If your desires are controlled by those people, it will NOT create a better tomorrow.
Technology gives you power to act on desires. It doesn't inherently tell you which desires are worth having.//////////////////////////////////
Technology is knowledge,,,,, knowledge doesn't destroy civilizations. Ignorance does. Absolute power corrupting absolutely. Knowledge doesn't kill. Ignorance kills. Totally unrelated.
Knowledge creates simplicity. Ignorance is an egoistic way of using this knowledge for the better of oneself not for the greater good.The sociopath finds justification for his actions and in his own mind is justified but overall is further from the truth which is in fact replenishing his own egoism. Empathy is the key using its desires here. For the benefit of others. Altruism takes the knowledge for the benefit of others with the main desire of empathy performing justice for the greater good.
You are making this too complicated for yourself. You need to simplify.. When you get a complicated mathematical problem you don't make the question worse by adding. The key is to combine like terms forming a simpler picture..
Using knowledge for altruistic empathy you must as they process "will to bestow . For the better good... This essay is not by logic. Its for duing the right thing. so as they say make it simple. When you can do that using your desires for empathy to factor or simplify you come acroww an easier picture.
Giving thanks is a humble way of doing this also. It creates a circle. The animal with the greatest altruistic desire is tossup with whale and dolphin.. The animal with the greatest egoism is man... So with that said, power is not used for the greater good, its for materialism and with the ignorance with the power it possesses it will be only time before it destroys itself and everything around him.
Egoism vs. Altruism.
Egoism is the desire to benefit oneself, Altruism is the desire for the benefit of others.. It's not about knowledge its what you do with that knowledge.
It's great to have power isn't it. For better with the knowledge you possess the amount of power you possess the greater responsibility. Power with no responsibility results in Irans radicalism or anything else resulting. Mankind has made the world for all life forms destruction. Which species has caused more damage than any other?
Scientists have documented over 900 explicit animal and plant extinctions since 1500 CE. However, broad scientific estimates suggest that human activity has actually driven hundreds of thousands of species—especially uncounted insects, marine life, and plants—to extinction. More are on the brink of extinction. Way to go homeo sapiens,,,,,, Politics are disgusting and most don't know what the fuck they are talking about. They are lying to you. Democrats point fingers to one's that are innocent where in fact they are the one's that are guilty. Just look what is happening on here.. over 10 mayors in liberal cities WITH PROOF are children collecting money then taking that money and putting into their own pockets... But that's ok,,, keep voting for this. Just like clinton collected millions of dollars in Haitie earthquate stealing money from donations..egoism right?
You are not well educated with the stoic principles. Study this first before we can debate on knowledge with using responsibility. Also look up the 10 native american commandments and study that.
Conclusion is you are a great thinker but the stuff you think is not related to good reasoning for the benefit of others.. It's ok,,, I'll wait for you.
empathy/ˈempəTHē/Empathy is the ability to recognize, understand, and share the thoughts and feelings of another person. Often described as "putting yourself in someone else's shoes," it builds social bonds, improves communication, and drives supportive, prosocial behavior.Main
Types of Empathy
Cognitive Empathy: Understanding what someone else is thinking or how they view a situation (also called perspective-taking).
Affective (Emotional) Empathy: Actually feeling the emotion that another person is experiencing.
Somatic Empathy: Having a physical, bodily reaction to someone else's emotional state, such as cringing when you see someone get hurt.
Empathy vs. Sympathy and Compassion
Empathy: Sharing or actively participating in another person's emotional experience.Sympathy: Feeling pity, sorrow, or concern for someone's situation without necessarily feeling their exact emotions.
Compassion: Combining empathetic understanding with an active desire or drive to help alleviate the person's suffering.
How to Build EmpathyPractice active listening: Focus fully on the speaker without planning your response or interrupting.Seek out new perspectives: Spend time talking to people from backgrounds or with viewpoints different from your own.
Read diverse stories: Immersing yourself in fiction helps train your brain to imagine internal lives very different from your own.
UTOPIA
Meaning and HistoryFirst use: Thomas More wrote his book Utopia in Latin in 1516.Word root: It comes from Greek words meaning "no place" (ou-topos) to show that a perfect world is hard to reach.Core idea: It focuses on fairness in jobs, laws, and daily life.Types of UtopiasEcological: A world where humans live in peace with nature.Economic: A society with no money or class gaps.Political: A land with no war, crime, or government abuse.Religious: A place guided by holy rules and pure love.
A utopia is an imaginary place or society where everything is close to perfect. In a utopia, laws, government, and social conditions are ideal, and people live together in peace and happiness.
"Utopia is perfect" is not supported by that definition.
There is a difference between 'ideal' and 'perfect':
Ideal = the best or most desirable version according to a particular standard or goal. It can be something you aim for, even if it isn't fully achievable.
Perfect = having no flaws, defects, or shortcomings at all.
Or in short:
Ideal = as good as you want it to be.
Perfect = impossible to improve.
In any case, I don't think that we disagree on the terms that you just defined that much. What we disagreed most over is the definitions of 'socialism' and 'communism'. Those definitions are very broad, and that's the problem, because then 'someone' can claim "You want to have a authoritarian state that controls people, because you say that you are a socialist!". That is called a 'semantic shift', which is a version of a 'straw-man'.
Lets say that I'm in a debate with a cultural Christian. They call themselves Christian, because they feel warm and fuzzy inside from the love and empathy of Jesus and celebrating Easter and Christmas. OK? Now I accuse them of believing that the Earth is 6000 years old, the idea that people cannot be good unless they are a Christian and believing that the Ark of Noah story is accurate. That's a 'semantic shift straw-man'. There are many millions of Christians for which my accusation would be correct, but I am using the broad definition of Christian to associate them with something that they did NOT intend when they used the term "Christian".
However, I'm not interested much in defining terms correctly. I'm interested in understanding each other. If your Utopia is perfect, fine, I don't care. Just don't accuse me of my goals to be irrational, because Utopia isn't possible.
I don't claim that Utopia IS possible, I'm JUST proposing to work towards a BETTER society. One step closer, whenever possible, instead of agreeing with people who make it worse for most people, because it benefits THEM.
Utopia is void of egoism. We do not have the knowledge to create this level at this point. BUT its a level where we strive to achieve with the desire of democracy. As JFK said "think not what your country can do for you. think of what you can do for it."
If egoism means selfishness at the expense of others, then many visions of utopia would indeed try to eliminate or greatly reduce it.
If egoism means having a self, personal desires, interests, ambitions, or a concern for your own well-being, then a utopia probably should not be void of it. People need some degree of self-interest to maintain autonomy, identity, boundaries, and individuality.
In fact, a society with zero self-interest could sound less like utopia and more like a society where individuality has been erased. It sounds like hell to me to be robbed of my self, personal desires, interests, ambitions, and a concern for your own well-being.
Altruism is often understood as: I give something of myself for your benefit, even when I receive little or nothing in return.
Solidarity is different: Your well-being matters to me because we exist within the same social world, and the quality of that world shapes both of our lives.
The key distinction is that solidarity is not necessarily self-sacrifice. It can be a form of enlightened self-interest: an understanding that my ability to flourish is inseparable from the conditions in which other people flourish.
I care about solidarity; If I help create a society in which people are secure, respected, educated, healthy, and able to participate, I do not merely give something up. I also live in that society. I benefit from the trust, creativity, safety, relationships, opportunities, and richness that other people's well-being makes possible. That is the WHOLE IDEA on which the Dutch Socialist Party is founded.
I skimmed over all this and to get rid of the issues you folks think are the problem it would require genetic modifications of the human body and brain.
You would first need to filter out the Id, the desire and need for pleasure.
This is the stage where nothing else matters from birth,and alot of folks just get bigger in physical size and never grow out of that.
There fore, Ego and super ego are fed and nurtured by this Id thing.
greed,and all those other evils you speak of are to feed that ego.
So start breeding out Id, then maybe you can start this new human race that doesn't want to "race" it's way to prosperity and will be satisfied with laying around smoking weed and eating tofu in this fantasy utopian environment of no desires, no needs, no wants ,no reason to do better. And once you get to that utopia ,it will fall apart because all the infrastructure and technology that humans depend on for survival that were invented, manufactured and distributed and maintained by the evil capitalist, will crumble. You will then be living in caves, banging rocks together and telling your great grandkids about the homes and lives you had before all went to hell
Who would you give control over the genetic modifications to your brain?
The same billionaires that now control your media?
Why do you want to eliminate the exact things that makes us human?
The US might be the most capitalist country in the world. It certainly has one of the highest GDP's/capita. But your infrastructure is at the level of a poor European country, your technology is made in China, most of your people can hardly afford rent and food, and their world comes to a halt when they need medical attention.
If Utopia was built your way, why is your country so far from it?
Americans will tell their grandkids about the homes and lives they had before all went to hell, at 10pm after working in "Techtopia" sweatshops, doing the work that robots are too expensive for, coming home to climb
a ladder to their container home at level 41, to eat insect-paste for dinner.
Yes of course. Conservatives don't think. To you they are children. Its because they don't have to go down on levels but they know simplicity... They rely on critical reasoning. Tells me your reasoning skills are indeed primitive. Conservatives reasoning skills to you are childish because that's the way you interpret it. Your reasoning skills lack objectivity which means you have none or close to it.
To you ruling through socialist ideology is the best way even if it has never worked...
For conservatives they believe in leadership not rulers.
So let's just calm down.
"They rely on critical reasoning." I wish that was true.
What MAGA does is "Critical contrarianism". I'll try to explain the difference.
Critical reasoning: The disciplined ability to decide what you should believe or do,
by examining evidence, assumptions, alternatives, and consequences rather than
simply accepting what FEELS convincing.
Critical contrarianism: The tendency to define oneself as intellectually independent,
by doubting or rejecting mainstream claims, primarily because they are mainstream, rather than evaluating those claims impartially against evidence.
Critical reasoning is a method for determining whether a conclusion is justified by the evidence.
Critical contrarianism is a method for challenging a conclusion because of its source, status, consensus, or perceived establishment, while treating the challenge itself as evidence of independent thinking.
An extreme version of that are flat-earthers. They can become increasingly convinced that they are independent thinkers, while their reasoning has actually become less falsifiable, less symmetrical, and less responsive to evidence.
"To you ruling through socialist ideology is the best way even if it has never worked..."
That statement is a good example of the reasoning problem we've been discussing, because it compresses several disputed premises into a conclusion without actually establishing them. More strikingly, after our endless discussions, you have apparently learned nothing from the fact that I have repeatedly dismantled your arguments while you have yet to demonstrate that you can dismantle mine. Instead, you continue to argue against a straw-man version of socialism, that I have explicitly rejected.
I have also explained repeatedly why I am a socialist. It is grounded in humanism: the recognition that our lives are interconnected, and that short-term selfishness is therefore ultimately shortsighted. I support democracy precisely because people should be free to choose how they want their society organized. My advocacy of socialism is, fundamentally, an advocacy of giving people that democratic choice, not imposing an ideology on them.
And your claim that socialism has “never worked” is extraordinarily ignorant historically. Capitalism, by itself, did not lift ordinary people from poverty and servitude. The improvements in living standards, worker rights, social security, public services, and political power that transformed the lives of ordinary people were won through struggles that were deeply influenced by socialist and social-democratic ideas. In that sense, it is
at least as defensible to argue that capitalism has never worked for ordinary people.
"For conservatives they believe in leadership not rulers."
That is another claim built on your straw-man of socialism: as though socialism means ‘rulers’ while conservatism means ‘leadership.’ But I have never advocated rule by 'socialist' rulers; I have explicitly advocated democracy, precisely so that people can choose how they want to be governed. And if you want to contrast that with conservatism, you cannot simply ignore the fact that large numbers of self-described conservatives continue to support Trump, despite his repeated efforts to concentrate personal power and his expressed admiration for strong, even authoritarian, leadership. So the distinction you are drawing is between an idealized definition of one and a selective definition of the other.
Telling me to ‘calm down’ is not an argument. If you think my reasoning is wrong, then demonstrate where it is wrong. Put forward some actual critical reasoning: address my premises, challenge my inferences, provide evidence, and show where my conclusions do not follow. Invoking feelings as a way of deciding what is right is precisely what I have been arguing against. Whether either of us is calm, angry, humble, or confident has no bearing on whether an argument is valid.
The experiment provides some evidence that an acute increase in testosterone can influence political attitudes in young men who are weakly attached to the Democratic Party. But the paper substantially overstates how confidently we can generalise that finding.
The experiment was conducted between March and November 2011. The paper was only published much later, on July 7, 2025. That's an important detail because the political environment was very specific: this was during the 2012 U.S. presidential primary campaign, when Obama was president and Republican candidates such as Romney, Gingrich, Palin, Huckabee and Rand Paul were prominent. The authors deliberately chose this period because political competition was highly salient.
Understand that this was a group of healthy young men, so no problems with a shortage of testosterone. In the treatment group, testosterone rose by roughly 65%. That's huge, they basically changed them into testosterone bombs.
I don't know why you focus on politics, because it would have been more logical to look for behavioral measures of:
• aggression — e.g. willingness to administer unpleasant noise to another participant;
• risk-taking — g@mbling or risk-choice tasks;
• competitive behaviour — willingness to compete for rewards;
• dominance/status seeking;
• sexual motivation;
• social boundary violations or harassment-related judgments.
You like the idea that "Liberals are low-testosterone 'soy boys'; conservatives are high-testosterone men" but these were healthy young men that they loaded up to testosterone bombs. Then some of them became more open to conservative ideas. And you like that?
It literally support my claim that conservatives are primitive emotional thinkers.
The older ideal of traditional masculinity was often something like stoicism + responsibility + self-command: a man was supposed to control his impulses, protect and provide for others, keep his word, tolerate hardship, and remain composed under pressure.
The new conservative ideal is now that a strong man doesn't let anyone tell him what he can say or feel. It supports emotional expressiveness, aggression, impulsiveness, grievance and refusal to concede into demonstrations of authenticity or strength.
In that framework, being restrained can actually look weak or submissive.
Guys like Andrew Tate represent the opposite of what a man was supposed to be.
A man was supposed to take responsibility, have self-control, protect rather than exploit, and accept the consequences of his actions. Instead, these guys exploit women for their own pleasure and greed, and then throw a temper tantrum when they are held to account.
And when the consequences arrive, they ask Trump for protection and openly threaten Marco Rubio’s son if they don’t keep them out of prison.
That’s not strength. It’s entitlement, cowardice, and a complete lack of self-control.
Manhood was supposed to be about mastering your impulses, not being ruled by them.
No way do I believe that it is a coincidence that Karoline Leavitt resigns because of spending more time with her children, just after Trump left her on the 'decoy plane'.
'If I go, you go, right?': Traveling on the presidential plane, without Trump
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The precious little girl didn't like that, I'm sure.
A contempt vote for using your 5th amendment right?
Maybe he should have just talked about the DOW.
Or got his black book of burns out.
Your president was talking about parasite medicine
and purging people with bleach for fucks sake.
Your media was fearmongering after they were ALL VAXXED.
All your politicians got vaxxed before everyone else.
That's the hypocrisy and dumbassery that Fauchi had to deal with.
And what is Trump doing now? Eliminating all the emergency capacity for the next pandemic, while infections are rushing over your country like never before, because the people who's job it is to prevent that have been cut to breaking point. If Trump was actually a Russian operative planted to destroy your country, he couldn't be doing a better job.
So that's how he is going to do it, mamadomi is going to bankrupt land and building owners and TAKE what they had,I figured he was a shister but no believes me.
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"If withholding rent becomes a common tenant-union tactic, that will only accelerate building disinvestment and deterioration.
For the mayor and the DSA, however, forcing rent-stabilized property owners into foreclosure or bankruptcy is the point.
His housing plan calls for seizing buildings from “bad actors’ hands” and transferring them to “responsible stewards” like nonprofits."
Those "responsible stewards" will be fellow socialist-communist and living conditions will be worse as communist only want a "shelter" and gruel for their subjects,free to them of course!
Based on what? Makes perfect sense if you study it.
Make it so landlords can't adjust rent rates to keep up with inflation and increased taxes. It prompts late payments and mounting debt for the landlords which will prompt bankruptcy. then who cleans up on buildings for penny's on the dollar of what they are actually worth? the democrat communist. Which will then rent them to people, and let them go down hill until they look like the slums in africa.But it is cheap or free housing they will say, all the while laughing all the way to the bank with the rent money they are not reinvesting in the buildings to maintain them.
It's an expression of approval, but of course not in reaction to what you make of it,
or what the article is saying, but in reaction to what Mamdani is ACTUALLY doing.
Understand my position: Too much property is owned by too few people.
So a government linked non profit is better? How? They always go the cheapest route on everything. bandiads where stiches are needed type thinking on everything they do.
Besides, if you took every building,and gave each person a building,within a few months all of them would be back in the hands of people that had them when you took them. because most people are like kids,can't manage money or assets. they don't teach it in schools.
A government linked non-profit owning rental houses IS better, because it leaves citizens with more money to improve themselves, rather than the owners of a private landlord. Every cent is then reinvested in housing, instead of going to people who don't add any value to the system.
However, I prefer PUBLIC rental houses, in which the proceeds of the rental houses goes back into the common wealth, and the citizens can democratically control what purposes that wealth should serve.
You describe the process of capitalism, which is a centralizing effect of wealth. Indeed, that is the problem, but you are describing individual private ownership with "gave each person a building". That's not PUBLIC ownership, because public ownership is COLLECTIVELY SHARED ownership.
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Trump speaks exclusively in 'child mode'.
Maga can't think like children because it can't think.
Running a garage? Sure! Running a country? NOOOOOOOO!!!
Have you seen the stack of files for just the concept of a plan for Trump's ACA replacement? It got NOWHERE, because his people are not up to the challenge.
All they did was break parts of it.
That's just one small detail of what it takes to run a country.
Just the sheer complexity of working in a bigger company would astound you.
Since you don't have any experience on that, you don't know enough to know
how much you don't know.
or abilities, when they know the least about the subject.
But the problem here is you cant graph wisdom since it is not a mathematical model.
Core Parts of Wisdom Insight: Seeing beneath the surface of complex problems
.Good judgment: Making smart, safe choices based on past events.
Action: Doing the right or helpful thing with what you know. But what I feel based on knowledge is socialism vs. democracy shows that socialism will never work.. Democracy is the ability of being educated which the prerequisite is educating the population with judicial knowledge to the best of their ability in the persuit of utopia ,,
While socialism is based on rule of the people surpressing them of finding the truth with judicial knowledge and wisdom. Those that disregard control from the surpresser resulting in death or worse --> cansorship.lol
Instead of slandering trump while showing hatred of Jews the socialst needs to find answers as to why he feels this way and what would be the better solution of reaching utopia..
Knowledge helps you know what is true.
Experience helps you know what tends to work.
Good sense helps you make sound choices.
But wisdom also involves judgment about what truly matters,
what is worth pursuing, sacrificing for, or letting go of.
"While socialism is based on rule of the people surpressing them" No it's not, Socialism is a society based on equality, solidarity, and human dignity, in which wealth and power are democratically shared and controlled by the people.
Your explanation of democracy is quite tangled, but I assume you mean something like: "Democracy requires an educated population, because citizens need knowledge and understanding to participate meaningfully in governing society and pursuing a better, or ideal, society."
Democracy = representation + a mechanism for translating citizens' preferences into political decisions.
If by Utopia you mean: an (imagined) ideal society in which human institutions and social conditions are arranged so well that major forms of injustice, suffering, and conflict have been overcome, than that COULD be the end result of democracy, but that would require something like this:
1. People know what a good society actually looks like.
2. People's preferences are substantially aligned with that conception of the good.
3. Citizens have accurate information about the consequences of different policies.
4. The political system translates those preferences accurately, without corruption, manipulation, or disproportionate influence from elites.
5. People can resolve disagreements peacefully.
6. There are enough resources and technological capabilities to implement what people want.
7. The resulting institutions remain stable and adaptable as circumstances change.
If you think that what i say about Trump is slander, than show it to be WRONG, because statements that are substantially true are NOT defamatory, even if it damages someone's reputation.
I don't like to be accused of 'hatred of Jews'. Better put some evidence to that claim.
Logic is systemic patterns while wisdom understands the true nature of existence by ways of how you feel creating beauty and "Ideas" Wisdom comprises of infinate multiverses while logic just possesses 1. Socialism is also a means of idol worship where materialism is based for the one's in power not for the people as a whole. Socialism especially communism does not provide national sovereignty since it occupies a land to take power from the people only to flourish for themselves. Example is Iran.
Socialism and democracy are not direct opposites; rather, socialism is an economic system focused on collective or public ownership of production, while democracy is a political system where power rests with the people through free elections. They can intersect, as seen in democratic socialism, or conflict, as seen in authoritarian socialism.Core DefinitionsSocialism: An economic model where the community or government controls the means of production and distribution to reduce inequality.Democracy: A political model where citizens choose their leaders through competitive and fair elections.Intersection: Systems can blend both concepts, allowing people to vote on economic regulations and social welfare programs.Key Differences in PracticeGovernance: Democracy focuses on political rights and voting processes, whereas socialism targets economic distribution and property ownership.Compatibilities: Democratic socialism uses democratic means to achieve social economic goals, while historical authoritarian socialism rejected multi-party democracy for state control.Focus: Democracy asks who holds political power, while socialism asks who owns the economic wealth.
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DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOCIALISM AND COMMUNISM.
Socialism and communism are both economic and political ideas that want to share wealth and stop the unfairness of capitalism. In short, socialism lets people keep personal property and pays them based on how hard they work, while communism removes private property entirely and gives goods to people based on their needs.Property and Ownership
Socialism: People can still own personal items and small things. Big industries and factories belong to the public or the government.Communism: No one owns private property. Everything belongs to the community or the state for everyone to share.How People Get PaidSocialism: Workers get paid based on their individual work, effort, and skill.
Communism: Goods and supplies are given to people based simply on what they need to live.How the System Changes Society
Socialism: Changes happen slowly through regular laws and voting inside the current government.
Communism: Changes happen through a sudden, total revolution where workers take over completely.
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DEMOCRACY VS. COMMUNISM.
. Democracy uses a system where people vote in free elections and can own private property. Communism uses a system where a single party controls the government and owns all property and businesses.
Political DifferencesDemocracy: Multiple political parties compete for power through fair votes. Citizens have legal rights like free speech and freedom of the press.Communism: One single party holds all the power. The state limits or bans political opposition and public dissent.Economic DifferencesDemocracy: Usually paired with capitalism. People and private companies own land, stores, and factories. Market prices depend on supply and demand.
Communism: The government owns the major industries, farms, and resources. The state plans production and tries to remove economic gaps between social classes.
. Democracy gives power to all the people through voting. Monarchy gives power to one single royal ruler, usually for life.
Utopia is a concept up for debate. It exists on pure justice. How do we know the definition of justice other than our desires are to do the right thing? Basically and in a fundamental way Utopia is defined as a desire by which we seek altruistic existence through the will to bestow,,, or in christian terms---- to sacrifice for the benefit of others not to oneself.
“Socialism” means different things to different people because it is not one single, universally agreed system. It is a broad family of ideas with a long history. Marx developed one influential theory, but there have also been democratic socialists, social democrats, market socialists, revolutionary socialists, and many others, often disagreeing about what socialism should look like and how to achieve it.
The term is also used in different ways. It can describe an ideal economic system, a political movement seeking such a system, or individual “socialist” policies, such as public ownership, welfare programs, or worker-owned businesses. Supporting one such policy does not necessarily mean wanting to replace capitalism entirely.
On top of that, many parties and governments have called themselves socialist while pursuing very different goals. Some genuinely seek major changes to ownership and the economy; others mainly support regulated capitalism and a strong welfare state. And some leaders have used the label while creating systems quite different from traditional socialist ideals.
Finally, especially in American political debate, “socialism” is often used as a catch-all for almost any government intervention; taxes, healthcare, welfare, regulation, and so on. This can create a straw-man definition in which socialism simply means “the government does things.”
So before arguing about whether something is “socialist,” the first question should be: what do you mean by socialism, and if I mean something else, is it even helpful to use the term?
I use the term 'socialism' that is close to the original theory of Marx, but I don't care about that. I care about a modern version, that is constantly updated to the current state of the world, while keeping true to the ideals. I am an active member of the Dutch Socialist Party. The SP's socialism is as a living political tradition, rather than a fixed blueprint. Its principles are rooted in human dignity, equality, and solidarity, but its goal is not to mechanically reproduce an old model. It is about continually asking how much democratic control people have over the forces that shape their lives, and how that control can be expanded. “Government of the people, by the people, for the people”, which emphasizes democracy BEYOND just elections.
That makes it fundamentally pragmatic. The world changes, so socialism has to change with it. Climate change is a good example: the question is not simply what an ideal future economic system should look like, but how we deal with the reality that climate damage already falls disproportionately on people with less power and wealth. If an economic system repeatedly puts profit above the conditions needed for a liveable planet, then changing that system becomes more than a desirable political project, it can become a necessity.
This is also why socialism shouldn't be reduced to individual policies such as public healthcare or welfare. Those can be socialist policies, but the broader idea is democratising economic and social power. Sometimes that means public ownership, sometimes regulation, sometimes collective or worker ownership, and sometimes entirely new solutions that fit circumstances we haven't encountered before.
In that sense, the SP can be understood as pragmatic in its methods but principled in its direction: it adapts to reality without abandoning human dignity, equality, solidarity, and the continual expansion of democracy. That is quite different from treating socialism as a rigid system with a predetermined endpoint.
The problem with this description is that it treats “communism” as if it has one fixed meaning, when in reality the word has been used for both an ideal and for very different political systems that claimed to represent that ideal.
The description you give is largely a description of authoritarian communist states of the 20th century and their centrally planned economies: one-party rule, state ownership of major industries, political repression, and central economic planning. It is understandable that someone would associate communism with this, because those governments often called themselves communist. But that does not make those characteristics the definition of communism itself.
In the tradition associated with Marx, communism was conceived very differently: as a classless society based on common ownership, in which the enormous inequalities created by the division between owners and workers had been overcome. It was not simply “the government owns everything.” In fact, a state that permanently concentrates economic and political power in the hands of a ruling party is difficult to reconcile with the idea of a society in which class domination has actually disappeared.
This is an important distinction between an ideal and a particular historical attempt to achieve it. You can reasonably argue about whether communist ideals are achievable, desirable, or internally consistent. But it is not accurate to define the ideal entirely by the systems that claimed to be building it.
That is why statements such as “communism means one-party government” or “communism means the government owns all the factories” are too narrow. Those describe particular forms of state socialism and historical communist regimes, not communism as a political and philosophical ideal.
And this is precisely why the word can become almost useless without clarification. At one end, someone may mean a theoretical classless and ultimately stateless society; at the other, they may mean the political-economic system of a particular authoritarian state. Those are enormously different things. A serious discussion therefore has to distinguish between communism as an ideal, communist movements, and governments that called themselves communist rather than treating them as interchangeable.
I have a problem with you defining utopia primarily through altruism and self-sacrifice. If utopia is an imagined society of justice and human flourishing, why would sacrificing oneself be its defining feature?
A utopian vision seems better expressed through unity, acceptance, equality, abundance, empathy, generosity, and human possibility. The goal is not for people to constantly give up their own wellbeing for others, but to imagine a society where one person's wellbeing does not have to come at another's expense.
Perhaps “sacrifice” means giving up selfishness to you, the belief that our interests must always come before everyone else's. But that is very different from sacrificing our happiness or prosperity. In a society of abundance and opportunity, why assume people must remain selfish?
I therefore see empathy rather than altruism as the more fitting principle. Helping others does not necessarily mean acting against our own interests, generosity and cooperation can themselves be fulfilling.
Utopia, then, need not require people to become saints. It can be the aspiration toward a society where people flourish together, with enough freedom, equality, security and opportunity that cooperation becomes natural rather than something imposed through self-denial.
Empathy is directly related to altruism.. Here, I'll make it easier for you..Kardashev Scale is a method used to measure civilizations from 1 to 7
Type I
A civilization "close to the level currently achieved on Earth, with an energy consumption of ≈4×1019 erg/sec" (4×1012 watts).A Type I civilization is usually defined as one that can harness all the energy that reaches its home planet from its parent star (for Earth, this value is about 2×1017 watts), which is about four orders of magnitude higher than the amount currently achieved on Earth, with an energy consumption of ≈2×1013 watts by 2020. The astronomer Guillermo A. Lemarchand defined Type I as a level close to today's terrestrial civilization, with an energy capacity equivalent to Earth's solar irradiance, between 1016 and 1017 watts.
Type 2
A civilization capable of harnessing the energy radiated by its own large star – for example, by successfully completing a Dyson sphere or Matrioshka brain – with an energy consumption of ≈4×1033 erg/sec. Lemarchand defined such civilizations as being able to harness and channel the entire radiation output of their star. The energy consumption would then be comparable to the luminosity of the Sun, about 4×1033 erg/sec (4×1026 watts).
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Type 3
A civilization with energy on the scale of its own galaxy, with an energy consumption of ≈4×1044 erg/sec. Lemarchand defined civilizations of this type as having access to energy comparable to the luminosity of the entire Milky Way galaxy, about 4×1044 erg/sec (4×1037 watts).
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Type 4
By this level it is possible to exist with no physical existence. Only pure energy, pure thought and heart. However it is still not considered as utopia,,, yet
A Type 4 civilization is a hypothetical, highly advanced society on an extended Kardashev Scale that can harness the entire energy output of the universe or a massive cluster of galaxies (roughly 10⁴⁶ watts). Nikolai Kardashev's original 1964 scale only went up to Type 3, but later futurists added Type 4 to describe universal mastery
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Type 5
A Level 5 (or Type V) civilization is a purely theoretical society on an extended Kardashev Scale that has gained god-like mastery over the multiverse. Instead of being limited to one planet, star, galaxy, or even universe, this civilization harnesses and controls energy, matter, and physical laws across multiple alternate realities or dimensions
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Type 6
A Type 6 civilization is a hypothetical, god-like society on an extended Kardashev Scale that harnesses the power of multiple multiverses, manipulating the fundamental laws of physics, space-time, and reality itself
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Type 7
A Type 7 civilization is a purely theoretical level of advancement at the absolute limit of the extended Kardashev Scale. While Nikolai Kardashev's original scale only went up to Type III (galactic), expanded modern theoretical frameworks add higher tiers up to Type VII, representing mastery over the entire omniverse, all dimensions, and reality itself.
In conclusion, it has been figured out that our level is computed to 0.71. which is not even level 1. Even up to level 7 there is a microscope very small residue of egoism. Level 7 does not devoid of 100% therefore it is not measured as utopia yet. The critical factor of germanation is between now and level 2 of whether a civilization survives or destroys itself. In defined terms democracy is not a ruled filled structure but rather than the desire to reach utopia. How do we find utopia? Learning with no idol worship like gold or money
Technical advancements to anything even close to a Type 1 civilization requires collaboration. At the moment, people cannot even agree that climate change is real. We are heading towards a cliff at breakneck speed, some of us say "Stop!" and other push the accelerator. How do we reach global ascendance, if we cannot even agree on solving a problem, that at the minimum will cause great damage and suffering, probably cause massive conflict and mass starvation, and possibly result in the self-destruction of humanity?
Would you let half of the planet starve or work like slaves, for the other half
to progress through the Kardashev Scales? If not, it requires a shift from the current politics and economy, because the current one is working for a shrinking share of the population.
. Level 1 civilization is predicted to be achieved in approximately 200 years. We plot curves and series by use of Eulor's Formula. Not just for today but predictions of the far distant future.. Another theory is once we achieve 100% brain capacity we will no longer need physical form but actually be everywhere.
By level 4 poverty will become obsolete since money no longer has meaning because whatever we need is obtained by using cosmic energy. Soon after that our structures will stem from within creating multiverses..
There is a big margin between a 'Utopia' and humanity NOT damaging/destroying itself by neglecting to solve world problems.
We also don't NEED to be perfect beings to solve world problems.
We have done it before, as imperfect as we are.
The desire isn't democracy. The desire is NOT to be dominated, to not be subject to someone else's arbitrary power. Democracy is a way of organizing political power in response to that desire. Democracy might be the best way of organizing to NOT to be dominated, but lots of people say that the now prefer some benevolent dictator. That dictator might dominate OTHER people, but not THEM, they think.
I don't want to straw-man you, but do you think that 90%-86% of our brain is doing nothing? Both humans and dolphins use 100% of their brains. The 10% brain myth is based on a misinterpretation of early neurology research and misquoted psychology lectures from the late 1800s and early 1900s. Early brain scientists found that stimulating certain parts of the brain with electricity caused no muscle movement. They labeled these areas "silent cortex," which people mistakenly took to mean "unused." In reality, these areas handle complex thinking, language, and planning.
HOW would we achieve a Level 1 civilization in approximately 200 years?
It takes a huge system of cooperating entities to achieve anything.
Do you think that anything supportive of that achievement is happening
in the Middle East? I don't think so, because their governments are preoccupied with keeping the people satisfied and docile enough to
not prefer death over living one day longer under their rule.
If the rest of the world turns to governments like that, there will be
no advancements whatsoever, there will only be societal collapse.
We do have the capacity of replacing fossil fules since many advancements were brought foward. However these people were either bought out or murdered so that the business model is preserved.
There are not more or worse people with money and power today than we had ever in history, but still, we have had times of great advancement for almost everyone in history, while at this time we see a major slide back.
That's because people with almost zero money and power don't organize themselves anymore like they used to. People have fought, bled and died for the rights to not get exploited as much. That is what created those times of great advancement.
Now they believe the big lie of "trickle down economy" and the that cutting agencies that are protecting consumers is good, that deregulation is good. Sure, some regulations are hurting efficiency and effectiveness, but MOST have a good reason; like your house not falling apart, ten years after you bought it, or the construction workers who build it not dying in accidents.
Construction companies don't like those agencies and regulations, because they can make MORE MONEY when they are allowed to fuck over their employees and customers.
The technology is widely available. Solar panels are the cheapest electricity generating tech EVER, and they are still becoming cheaper and more efficient. The batteries to store that electricity during the day, so it can be used during the night are now ALSO cheaper than fossil fuel electricity. And it doesn't require lithium and cobalt anymore. They can use sodium now; which doesn't require pure sources, because it is so easy to refine.
The business model of fossil fuels is preserved by POLITICS; oil companies have lots of money and lots of politicians in their ranks. It's pure corruption why politicians are still investing taxpayer dollars in oil and not enough in renewable energy.
why would you want our civilization to progress along those Kardashev Scales? Will it make us happier, when we consume more energy?
Civilization is wasting so much energy on things that does NOT make us happier. All those disposable products that last us only a few years, annoy the shit out of us as they reach their end of life, and then require money to replace. That's an economy that doesn't create happiness, but only creates wealth for a few people.
Why don't we focus more on what makes us happier, healthier and connected, and what provides us meaning and hope?
Are desires are still too primitive to encapsulate energy due to idol worship, lack of empathy and ignorance. The key element here is being openmindedness while creating better ideas.
Increasing levels would make mankind unified more and more creating a perfect sphere of altruism. Being happy is loving one another not by stealing, The ONLY way for happiness is altruistic desires... You can have all the money i8n the world but you will not find pure happiness until you can connect with a soul creating one. This is the main catalyst in progressing into level 1... We may not reach it destroying ourselves.
if we are to survive we must unify and become altruistic.. I said we are in danger right now with our own ignorance. From mow until say level 2 civilization lust for power could endeed destroy life on earth... "Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn.""Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed.""Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land.""Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours.""Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death." THIS IS OUR LEVEL OF 0.71 having the knowlege to progress but being ignorant if prolonged will be in our ultimate destruction,.
Another poem... When the Jews return to Zion(Israel) and the comet rips the sky the holy roman empire rises then you and I must die. Slow he(antichrist) rises creating armies on every shore turning man against his brother until man exists no more.
For us to be happy we need to do it together,,, No ruling but leadership which is so important, but then you need to be your own leader first, then share this knowledge known as being altruistic through the will to bestow... This is not to receive but having little but sharing whatever you have. This is pure happiness,,, Yes of course.. You will not achievive this by thinking but feeling the knowledge of doing the right thing..
Egoism is destroying us with isolation. Power is increasing hate. High platform medias are being used to turn us into hating each other. War in europe and the middle east is nothing but destructive. The United States made mistakes in keeping Irans regime in power too long. What happens next? How to clean up this mess? This is dangerous now that we have knowledge of Nuclear Weapons. The knowledge but not the wisdom with being an egoist? How many crazy rulers will it take?
You want a positive note? Ok, here is 1. Using our desires living today in order to create a better tomorrow,.
OK, I agree, but why would increasing energy availability cause that change in motivation?
Technology gives you power to act on desires. It doesn't inherently tell you which desires are worth having.
A nuclear reactor doesn't become morally superior to a campfire. A civilization capable of harnessing the energy of an entire planet doesn't thereby become more compassionate than one that isn't.
You are conflating having A goal with having the RIGHT goal. A goal doesn't automatically make people better. Suppose humanity collectively adopts the goal: "Become a Type I civilization.". That gives people a direction, but it doesn't tell us why that direction is morally valuable.
Why not make the goal something intrinsically human? Suppose humanity says: "No human being should die of hunger when humanity possesses the resources and knowledge to prevent it.". That is already an enormous civilizational project. It requires technological development, agriculture, logistics, energy, political cooperation, economic organization, education, medicine, etc. But unlike "reach Type I," the goal has an independently intelligible connection to human welfare.
You are saying:
Become more technologically powerful → this will motivate us to become more altruistic.
I am suggesting:
Why not make altruistic improvement the GOAL ITSELF, and let technological progress be one of the means?
About your poem: When you say that, I think about Trump appropriating $74.85 billion in additional funding for ICE, including $45 billion for detention capacity and $29.85 billion for operations and procurement. Compare that with a US Federal police/law-enforcement budget of $61.7 billion.
"The United States made mistakes in keeping Irans regime in power too long."
Ask yourself why you say this? Is it maybe that the actions of the US in the past created this regime in Iran? If the US is so irresponsible as to cause regimes like that, why do you trust the US to undo their mistakes? How about we stop supporting the US as the superpower that needs to dominate every nation on earth? Trump didn't initiate a new era, in which the US only acts in the interests of American billionaires, and chooses to respect agreements only when it suits them, he just expressed it more clearly.
Iran is indeed a threat, but in no way are they a more dangerous threat than Russia, Saudi Arabia or North Korea. I don't trust those countries more than Iran, just because they relate to Trump a lot better. Iran isn't more dangerous, because they are fanatical crazies. Russia, Saudi Arabia and North Korea might have a higher percentage of fanatical crazies than Iran has. Even Trump agreed that most Iranians want to be free of their regime, and now he is bombing them and destroying their way of life. Is he trying to make them all hate us? Would Trump have started this war, if less Americans wouldn't have believed that Iran is the biggest threat in the world? And why do they believe that? Because the media tells them 24/7. And they don't bring a lot of facts to the table, just some talking heads spreading FEAR. They provide the FEELINGS, but not the FACTS. And that's how people are MANIPULATED to support ideas that hurt them, their family and humanity as a whole.
And then you are saying: "You will not achievive this by thinking but feeling the knowledge of doing the right thing..". False! Feelings are pushed upon people by the media that is bought and paid for.
Let's go over something I referenced to earlier, but a bit more concise:
1) Knowledge tells us what is possible or true.
2) Experience tells us what is likely.
3) Good sense tells us what is appropriate here and now.
4) Wisdom tells us what is worth choosing.
I numbered them, because I see an as increasing depth of judgment in them.
1) A computer can accumulate knowledge
2) AI can now provide judgment about patterns.
3) AI cannot do this yet. Most people struggle with it too.
4) AI cannot do this yet. Only extraordinary people get close.
Those extraordinary people have not gained wisdom from feelings, but from deep thinking about what makes us human. When those people speak, they are humble, but they communicate insight to everyone who has the ability to recognize it. But those are not the people who are picked to be leaders by the people. They pick someone who provides the following, and ALL of it is based on FEELINGS:
- Simplification tells people what is wrong.
- Tribalism tells them who is "us".
- Anger/scapegoating tells them who is to blame.
- Strength tells them who can fight the enemy.
- Storytelling tells them what the struggle means.
- Ambition puts the individual leader at the center of it.
If your desires are controlled by those people, it will NOT create a better tomorrow.
Technology is knowledge,,,,, knowledge doesn't destroy civilizations. Ignorance does. Absolute power corrupting absolutely. Knowledge doesn't kill. Ignorance kills. Totally unrelated.
Knowledge creates simplicity. Ignorance is an egoistic way of using this knowledge for the better of oneself not for the greater good.The sociopath finds justification for his actions and in his own mind is justified but overall is further from the truth which is in fact replenishing his own egoism. Empathy is the key using its desires here. For the benefit of others. Altruism takes the knowledge for the benefit of others with the main desire of empathy performing justice for the greater good.
You are making this too complicated for yourself. You need to simplify.. When you get a complicated mathematical problem you don't make the question worse by adding. The key is to combine like terms forming a simpler picture..
Using knowledge for altruistic empathy you must as they process "will to bestow . For the better good... This essay is not by logic. Its for duing the right thing. so as they say make it simple. When you can do that using your desires for empathy to factor or simplify you come acroww an easier picture.
Giving thanks is a humble way of doing this also. It creates a circle. The animal with the greatest altruistic desire is tossup with whale and dolphin.. The animal with the greatest egoism is man... So with that said, power is not used for the greater good, its for materialism and with the ignorance with the power it possesses it will be only time before it destroys itself and everything around him.
Egoism is the desire to benefit oneself, Altruism is the desire for the benefit of others.. It's not about knowledge its what you do with that knowledge.
It's great to have power isn't it. For better with the knowledge you possess the amount of power you possess the greater responsibility. Power with no responsibility results in Irans radicalism or anything else resulting. Mankind has made the world for all life forms destruction. Which species has caused more damage than any other?
Scientists have documented over 900 explicit animal and plant extinctions since 1500 CE. However, broad scientific estimates suggest that human activity has actually driven hundreds of thousands of species—especially uncounted insects, marine life, and plants—to extinction. More are on the brink of extinction. Way to go homeo sapiens,,,,,, Politics are disgusting and most don't know what the fuck they are talking about. They are lying to you. Democrats point fingers to one's that are innocent where in fact they are the one's that are guilty. Just look what is happening on here.. over 10 mayors in liberal cities WITH PROOF are children collecting money then taking that money and putting into their own pockets... But that's ok,,, keep voting for this. Just like clinton collected millions of dollars in Haitie earthquate stealing money from donations..egoism right?
You are not well educated with the stoic principles. Study this first before we can debate on knowledge with using responsibility. Also look up the 10 native american commandments and study that.
Conclusion is you are a great thinker but the stuff you think is not related to good reasoning for the benefit of others.. It's ok,,, I'll wait for you.
empathy/ˈempəTHē/Empathy is the ability to recognize, understand, and share the thoughts and feelings of another person. Often described as "putting yourself in someone else's shoes," it builds social bonds, improves communication, and drives supportive, prosocial behavior.Main
Types of Empathy
Cognitive Empathy: Understanding what someone else is thinking or how they view a situation (also called perspective-taking).
Affective (Emotional) Empathy: Actually feeling the emotion that another person is experiencing.
Somatic Empathy: Having a physical, bodily reaction to someone else's emotional state, such as cringing when you see someone get hurt.
Empathy vs. Sympathy and Compassion
Empathy: Sharing or actively participating in another person's emotional experience.Sympathy: Feeling pity, sorrow, or concern for someone's situation without necessarily feeling their exact emotions.
Compassion: Combining empathetic understanding with an active desire or drive to help alleviate the person's suffering.
How to Build EmpathyPractice active listening: Focus fully on the speaker without planning your response or interrupting.Seek out new perspectives: Spend time talking to people from backgrounds or with viewpoints different from your own.
Read diverse stories: Immersing yourself in fiction helps train your brain to imagine internal lives very different from your own.
UTOPIA
Meaning and HistoryFirst use: Thomas More wrote his book Utopia in Latin in 1516.Word root: It comes from Greek words meaning "no place" (ou-topos) to show that a perfect world is hard to reach.Core idea: It focuses on fairness in jobs, laws, and daily life.Types of UtopiasEcological: A world where humans live in peace with nature.Economic: A society with no money or class gaps.Political: A land with no war, crime, or government abuse.Religious: A place guided by holy rules and pure love.
A utopia is an imaginary place or society where everything is close to perfect. In a utopia, laws, government, and social conditions are ideal, and people live together in peace and happiness.
There is a difference between 'ideal' and 'perfect':
Ideal = the best or most desirable version according to a particular standard or goal. It can be something you aim for, even if it isn't fully achievable.
Perfect = having no flaws, defects, or shortcomings at all.
Or in short:
Ideal = as good as you want it to be.
Perfect = impossible to improve.
In any case, I don't think that we disagree on the terms that you just defined that much. What we disagreed most over is the definitions of 'socialism' and 'communism'. Those definitions are very broad, and that's the problem, because then 'someone' can claim "You want to have a authoritarian state that controls people, because you say that you are a socialist!". That is called a 'semantic shift', which is a version of a 'straw-man'.
Lets say that I'm in a debate with a cultural Christian. They call themselves Christian, because they feel warm and fuzzy inside from the love and empathy of Jesus and celebrating Easter and Christmas. OK? Now I accuse them of believing that the Earth is 6000 years old, the idea that people cannot be good unless they are a Christian and believing that the Ark of Noah story is accurate. That's a 'semantic shift straw-man'. There are many millions of Christians for which my accusation would be correct, but I am using the broad definition of Christian to associate them with something that they did NOT intend when they used the term "Christian".
However, I'm not interested much in defining terms correctly. I'm interested in understanding each other. If your Utopia is perfect, fine, I don't care. Just don't accuse me of my goals to be irrational, because Utopia isn't possible.
I don't claim that Utopia IS possible, I'm JUST proposing to work towards a BETTER society. One step closer, whenever possible, instead of agreeing with people who make it worse for most people, because it benefits THEM.
If egoism means selfishness at the expense of others, then many visions of utopia would indeed try to eliminate or greatly reduce it.
If egoism means having a self, personal desires, interests, ambitions, or a concern for your own well-being, then a utopia probably should not be void of it. People need some degree of self-interest to maintain autonomy, identity, boundaries, and individuality.
In fact, a society with zero self-interest could sound less like utopia and more like a society where individuality has been erased. It sounds like hell to me to be robbed of my self, personal desires, interests, ambitions, and a concern for your own well-being.
Altruism is often understood as: I give something of myself for your benefit, even when I receive little or nothing in return.
Solidarity is different: Your well-being matters to me because we exist within the same social world, and the quality of that world shapes both of our lives.
The key distinction is that solidarity is not necessarily self-sacrifice. It can be a form of enlightened self-interest: an understanding that my ability to flourish is inseparable from the conditions in which other people flourish.
I care about solidarity; If I help create a society in which people are secure, respected, educated, healthy, and able to participate, I do not merely give something up. I also live in that society. I benefit from the trust, creativity, safety, relationships, opportunities, and richness that other people's well-being makes possible. That is the WHOLE IDEA on which the Dutch Socialist Party is founded.
You would first need to filter out the Id, the desire and need for pleasure.
This is the stage where nothing else matters from birth,and alot of folks just get bigger in physical size and never grow out of that.
There fore, Ego and super ego are fed and nurtured by this Id thing.
greed,and all those other evils you speak of are to feed that ego.
So start breeding out Id, then maybe you can start this new human race that doesn't want to "race" it's way to prosperity and will be satisfied with laying around smoking weed and eating tofu in this fantasy utopian environment of no desires, no needs, no wants ,no reason to do better. And once you get to that utopia ,it will fall apart because all the infrastructure and technology that humans depend on for survival that were invented, manufactured and distributed and maintained by the evil capitalist, will crumble. You will then be living in caves, banging rocks together and telling your great grandkids about the homes and lives you had before all went to hell
The same billionaires that now control your media?
Why do you want to eliminate the exact things that makes us human?
The US might be the most capitalist country in the world. It certainly has one of the highest GDP's/capita. But your infrastructure is at the level of a poor European country, your technology is made in China, most of your people can hardly afford rent and food, and their world comes to a halt when they need medical attention.
If Utopia was built your way, why is your country so far from it?
Americans will tell their grandkids about the homes and lives they had before all went to hell, at 10pm after working in "Techtopia" sweatshops, doing the work that robots are too expensive for, coming home to climb
a ladder to their container home at level 41, to eat insect-paste for dinner.
To you ruling through socialist ideology is the best way even if it has never worked...
For conservatives they believe in leadership not rulers.
So let's just calm down.
What MAGA does is "Critical contrarianism". I'll try to explain the difference.
Critical reasoning: The disciplined ability to decide what you should believe or do,
by examining evidence, assumptions, alternatives, and consequences rather than
simply accepting what FEELS convincing.
Critical contrarianism: The tendency to define oneself as intellectually independent,
by doubting or rejecting mainstream claims, primarily because they are mainstream, rather than evaluating those claims impartially against evidence.
Critical reasoning is a method for determining whether a conclusion is justified by the evidence.
Critical contrarianism is a method for challenging a conclusion because of its source, status, consensus, or perceived establishment, while treating the challenge itself as evidence of independent thinking.
An extreme version of that are flat-earthers. They can become increasingly convinced that they are independent thinkers, while their reasoning has actually become less falsifiable, less symmetrical, and less responsive to evidence.
"To you ruling through socialist ideology is the best way even if it has never worked..."
That statement is a good example of the reasoning problem we've been discussing, because it compresses several disputed premises into a conclusion without actually establishing them. More strikingly, after our endless discussions, you have apparently learned nothing from the fact that I have repeatedly dismantled your arguments while you have yet to demonstrate that you can dismantle mine. Instead, you continue to argue against a straw-man version of socialism, that I have explicitly rejected.
I have also explained repeatedly why I am a socialist. It is grounded in humanism: the recognition that our lives are interconnected, and that short-term selfishness is therefore ultimately shortsighted. I support democracy precisely because people should be free to choose how they want their society organized. My advocacy of socialism is, fundamentally, an advocacy of giving people that democratic choice, not imposing an ideology on them.
And your claim that socialism has “never worked” is extraordinarily ignorant historically. Capitalism, by itself, did not lift ordinary people from poverty and servitude. The improvements in living standards, worker rights, social security, public services, and political power that transformed the lives of ordinary people were won through struggles that were deeply influenced by socialist and social-democratic ideas. In that sense, it is
at least as defensible to argue that capitalism has never worked for ordinary people.
"For conservatives they believe in leadership not rulers."
That is another claim built on your straw-man of socialism: as though socialism means ‘rulers’ while conservatism means ‘leadership.’ But I have never advocated rule by 'socialist' rulers; I have explicitly advocated democracy, precisely so that people can choose how they want to be governed. And if you want to contrast that with conservatism, you cannot simply ignore the fact that large numbers of self-described conservatives continue to support Trump, despite his repeated efforts to concentrate personal power and his expressed admiration for strong, even authoritarian, leadership. So the distinction you are drawing is between an idealized definition of one and a selective definition of the other.
Telling me to ‘calm down’ is not an argument. If you think my reasoning is wrong, then demonstrate where it is wrong. Put forward some actual critical reasoning: address my premises, challenge my inferences, provide evidence, and show where my conclusions do not follow. Invoking feelings as a way of deciding what is right is precisely what I have been arguing against. Whether either of us is calm, angry, humble, or confident has no bearing on whether an argument is valid.
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Testosterone group: warmth toward Republican candidates increased from 22.00 → 29.09
Placebo group: warmth increased from 25.96 → 27.26 (not statistically significant)
The experiment was conducted between March and November 2011. The paper was only published much later, on July 7, 2025. That's an important detail because the political environment was very specific: this was during the 2012 U.S. presidential primary campaign, when Obama was president and Republican candidates such as Romney, Gingrich, Palin, Huckabee and Rand Paul were prominent. The authors deliberately chose this period because political competition was highly salient.
Understand that this was a group of healthy young men, so no problems with a shortage of testosterone. In the treatment group, testosterone rose by roughly 65%. That's huge, they basically changed them into testosterone bombs.
I don't know why you focus on politics, because it would have been more logical to look for behavioral measures of:
• aggression — e.g. willingness to administer unpleasant noise to another participant;
• risk-taking — g@mbling or risk-choice tasks;
• competitive behaviour — willingness to compete for rewards;
• dominance/status seeking;
• sexual motivation;
• social boundary violations or harassment-related judgments.
You like the idea that "Liberals are low-testosterone 'soy boys'; conservatives are high-testosterone men" but these were healthy young men that they loaded up to testosterone bombs. Then some of them became more open to conservative ideas. And you like that?
It literally support my claim that conservatives are primitive emotional thinkers.
The older ideal of traditional masculinity was often something like stoicism + responsibility + self-command: a man was supposed to control his impulses, protect and provide for others, keep his word, tolerate hardship, and remain composed under pressure.
The new conservative ideal is now that a strong man doesn't let anyone tell him what he can say or feel. It supports emotional expressiveness, aggression, impulsiveness, grievance and refusal to concede into demonstrations of authenticity or strength.
In that framework, being restrained can actually look weak or submissive.
Guys like Andrew Tate represent the opposite of what a man was supposed to be.
A man was supposed to take responsibility, have self-control, protect rather than exploit, and accept the consequences of his actions. Instead, these guys exploit women for their own pleasure and greed, and then throw a temper tantrum when they are held to account.
And when the consequences arrive, they ask Trump for protection and openly threaten Marco Rubio’s son if they don’t keep them out of prison.
That’s not strength. It’s entitlement, cowardice, and a complete lack of self-control.
Manhood was supposed to be about mastering your impulses, not being ruled by them.
'If I go, you go, right?': Traveling on the presidential plane, without Trump
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Trump says press secretary Leavitt to leave job at month's end
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The precious little girl didn't like that, I'm sure.
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Maybe he should have just talked about the DOW.
Or got his black book of burns out.
Your president was talking about parasite medicine
and purging people with bleach for fucks sake.
Your media was fearmongering after they were ALL VAXXED.
All your politicians got vaxxed before everyone else.
That's the hypocrisy and dumbassery that Fauchi had to deal with.
And what is Trump doing now? Eliminating all the emergency capacity for the next pandemic, while infections are rushing over your country like never before, because the people who's job it is to prevent that have been cut to breaking point. If Trump was actually a Russian operative planted to destroy your country, he couldn't be doing a better job.
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Professor Dave sciences the shit out of this nonsense.
Not watching it means that you value your ignorance.
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"If withholding rent becomes a common tenant-union tactic, that will only accelerate building disinvestment and deterioration.
For the mayor and the DSA, however, forcing rent-stabilized property owners into foreclosure or bankruptcy is the point.
His housing plan calls for seizing buildings from “bad actors’ hands” and transferring them to “responsible stewards” like nonprofits."
Those "responsible stewards" will be fellow socialist-communist and living conditions will be worse as communist only want a "shelter" and gruel for their subjects,free to them of course!
Make it so landlords can't adjust rent rates to keep up with inflation and increased taxes. It prompts late payments and mounting debt for the landlords which will prompt bankruptcy. then who cleans up on buildings for penny's on the dollar of what they are actually worth? the democrat communist. Which will then rent them to people, and let them go down hill until they look like the slums in africa.But it is cheap or free housing they will say, all the while laughing all the way to the bank with the rent money they are not reinvesting in the buildings to maintain them.
or what the article is saying, but in reaction to what Mamdani is ACTUALLY doing.
Understand my position: Too much property is owned by too few people.
Besides, if you took every building,and gave each person a building,within a few months all of them would be back in the hands of people that had them when you took them. because most people are like kids,can't manage money or assets. they don't teach it in schools.
However, I prefer PUBLIC rental houses, in which the proceeds of the rental houses goes back into the common wealth, and the citizens can democratically control what purposes that wealth should serve.
You describe the process of capitalism, which is a centralizing effect of wealth. Indeed, that is the problem, but you are describing individual private ownership with "gave each person a building". That's not PUBLIC ownership, because public ownership is COLLECTIVELY SHARED ownership.
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