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POLITICS...Pertaining to the United States of America.

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Started by tecsan [Ignore] 13,Sep,22 03:10  other posts
Your views, thoughts or simply opinions. The Economy is not well (understatement). I know there are some here that will try to link the country they are residing in as problems of the USA. Sorry the USA cannot be responsible for 100% of the problems in the world nor should they be expected to help repair all problems.

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By kebmo [Ignore] 21,Apr,25 10:19 other posts 
I see we have another day of the DOW tanking.
I think we can expect a major change in policy
from the Trump administration today.
This can't go on and even he knows it. In the last six months
it is down 10.44% and that matters… a lot.

As of right now it is down 744 points.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 21,Apr,25 10:32 other posts 
Reasonable people realize when something needs to change. Not this Clown. It's going to be a long ride to the midterms.
By kebmo [Ignore] 21,Apr,25 10:52 other posts 
Comparatively, the TSX, the main Canadian stock exchange is down
2.79% in the last six months. We always come along for the American ride because our economies are so intertwined.

Canadian travel to the US is down so much the Canadian airlines are rescheduling flights from the US to places lake the Caribbean, Mexico, South America, and Europe for the summer vacation months.
Day trips to the US are down substantially as well. Canadians are genuinely concerned about their personal safety in the US. That is not unreasonable considering the current situation in the US regarding people from other countries.

We don't want an unscheduled side trip to El Salvador!
By CAT52! [Ignore] 21,Apr,25 12:40 other posts 
I don't blame them for being scared. What my fellow citizens don't seem to understand is that anyone, legal, illegal, or US Citizen can be made to disappear. I wonder when concentration camps will start to appear.


By phart [Ignore] 20,Apr,25 09:29 other posts 
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 16,Apr,25 05:12 other posts 
People don’t grasp that free speech is to protect you from government backlash for your speech, not social backlash. Right-wingers genuinely can’t tell the difference. Free speech of the right isn’t under attack, it just turns out a lot of people don’t want to listen to bigots.

Meanwhile, Trump is defunding universities for not doing what he wants, which is return to
a time when black people had no chance to achieve anything, just because of the color of their skin.

Meanwhile, Trump is threatening Amazon with pulling government contracts, if they don't ban books he doesn't like.

Trump is literally ripping up the first amendment, but right-wingers are crying about being called stupid, racist or sexist, when they are saying stupid, racist, sexist bullshit 24/7.
By phart [Ignore] 16,Apr,25 22:57 other posts 
free speech protects your right to speak from other people that may claim offense or whatever.
if you say something that offends me, and i tried to say something in return and you duct taped my mouth shut, that would be violating my free speech.

what you and others don't understand is Trump is dealing with these colleges and universities that are promoting a anti American agenda. because you have no concept of patriotism or respect for your country. you think those concepts are outdated. This is America, and these colleges are promoting hate speech, hatred of Americans, and even going as far as pushing Islamist beliefs, hatred of Jews,etc.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 17,Apr,25 09:32 other posts 
There is nothing like that in the law. The law protects your right to speak freely from
the GOVERNMENT, not other people. And you're not free to say anything you want,
because other people have 1st amendment protection, from your defamation, discrimination, threats, fighting words (although rarely applied), obscenity (hard to define), doxing, false advertising / fraud and cyberbullying.

The government is NOT protected against the speech of people. It only works ONE WAY.
You can say whatever you want about the government or the country and they are NOT allowed to punish you for it. If they do, than THAT is the crime.

Taping your mouth shut is assault, you're already protected against that. Other than using force, people have all the right not to listen to you or to prevent you from speaking in a private setting. You don't have a right to use a private platform. Your right to speak your mind is only applicable to PUBLIC platforms. That's where you have free speech, that can only be limited if you break the law.

How are they promoting an anti-American agenda and what limits of free speech
are they crossing? They are pointing out that the US is supporting a genocide,
that's your side being anti-American. Trump is EXTORTING publishers to ban books.
That's not just anti-American, that's criminal.

The rest of what you're saying is straw-manning. It's not hatred of America or Jews,
it's condemning war crimes and fascism. Trump is deporting people for legitimate protected speech. Attacking that is anti-American.

It's very simple; if your government considers someone's speech law-breaking,
they should indict the person and a judge will decide if the speech is law-breaking.
The methods Trump is using is authoritarianism, and 100% against the first amendment.
He doesn't use the legal route, because he knows he would lose.

By the way, the American government can ONLY sue a citizen over speech in very limited circumstances, and it must meet strict legal standards because of the First Amendment
of the U.S. Constitution, which strongly protects free speech.

Do you even care about your First Amendment and laws, or am I wasting my time?
By phart [Ignore] 17,Apr,25 12:03 other posts 
why is it people are getting sued all the time over speech, defamation? from what i can tell, if Trump's enemys speak in such a way it harms his reputation, he has the right to do something about it. and for example. saying "death to the jews " or to hell with Americans" is hate speech,also, the government can deny a group from protesting in a public street if it sees fit if a alternative is offered, such as the city park.
google,

Yes, freedom of speech does have limits. While the First Amendment protects most forms of speech, it does not protect all speech, and certain categories of speech are excluded from constitutional protection, according to the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression. These limits include speech that incites violence, constitutes true threats, or involves unlawful conduct.
Here's a more detailed look at the limitations:
1. Incitement to Violence: Speech that incites imminent lawless action is not protected, according to the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression. This means speech that promotes or encourages immediate violent or unlawful actions is not protected by the First Amendment.
2. True Threats: Statements that communicate a serious intent to commit unlawful violence are not protected. This includes threats that put a person in reasonable fear of harm.
3. Defamation: False statements that damage a person's reputation are not protected, according to Super Lawyers. This includes libel (written defamation) and slander (spoken defamation).
4. Obscenity: Speech that is obscene is also not protected. However, the definition of obscenity can be complex and has been subject to legal interpretation.
5. Child Pornography: Speech that depicts child sexual abuse is not protected.
6. Fighting Words: Words that are likely to incite immediate violence or a breach of peace are not protected.
7. Time, Place, and Manner Restrictions: The government can impose reasonable restrictions on the time, place, and manner of speech, as long as these restrictions are content-neutral and leave open ample alternative channels for communication, according to the National Constitution Center.
8. Government-Sponsored Speech: The government can restrict speech when it is acting as a subsidizer or speaker, employer, or when it controls education or regulates the mail, airwaves, legal bar, military, prisons, and immigration, according to Wikipedia.
9. Private Entities: Private entities, such as employers or social media companies, can also impose restrictions on speech within their own domains.
It's important to remember that the limits on free speech are not absolute and are subject to legal interpretation. The specific details of what is and is not protected can be complex and may vary depending on the context, according to Quora.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Apr,25 04:26 other posts 
Trump cannot sue people for speaking in such a way that it harms his reputation,
as you say, because he's the representative of the government now, not a person.

How would you have liked it if Biden had people arrested for harming his reputation?
Maybe with that example you understand how dumb your idea is.

You lack the basic understanding about the First Amendment.
It protects PEOPLE from the GOVERNMENT,
NOT the GOVERNMENT from the PEOPLE.

"Death to the Jews" is indeed hate speech, because it is a "protected group".
"Death to the Americans" is NOT hate speech, because you are not a "protected group". Discrimination is about exclusion. You're ALL Americans.
It could very well be considered a THREAT, but NOT discrimination.
You don't understand discrimination laws either.

You can copy-paste facts to me, but YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THOSE FACTS.
There is NOTHING in the points you posted that contradicts what I said.

You cannot deny the right to protest to a group, when individuals are using hate speech, you can only sue the individuals for that hate speech.

There are laws that allow the government to assign other locations for protests,
but those are strictly limited. And they are banning protests all together.

In any case, Trump is not allowed to EXTORT publishers to ban books.
Those books he's banning do NOT contain ANY discrimination or threats or any other limitation to free speech, they just criticize him and your politics. That's the definition
of protected speech, and what Trump does is a crime against the First Amendment,
BY DEFINITION.

Deporting LEGAL immigrants for ANYTHING, without due process is also a CRIME.
A LEGAL immigrant doesn't turn into an illegal, when he has a "MOM" tattoo.
Do not lie again that you're only deporting ILLEGALS, because you're CLEARLY NOT.
By phart [Ignore] 18,Apr,25 08:13 other posts 
oh good Lord,you are still pointing at that gang member that has been shown to be a horrible person that even his wife took out a restraining order against him?

"https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/17/white-house-defense-abrego-garcia-deportation-00298118
"
"The Salvadoran entered the United States illegally around 2011. In 2019, immigration officials put him into deportation proceedings after he was arrested in a Home Depot parking lot, where his attorneys say he was looking for work as a day laborer."

he entered the US illegally in 2011, no reason for him to be here
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Apr,25 09:05 other posts 
In the five years since he was granted limited protected status. Abrego GarcĆ­a was granted lawful status in 2019 to live and work in the U.S. by the Immigration Court under the Department of Justice when Trump was president. He has never been convicted of a crime.
By phart [Ignore] 18,Apr,25 08:21 other posts  ⤓
so you are removing a mans rights as a US citizen just because he takes a elected official job? sick,very sick

Americans are not a protected group? you are the 1 that says we have rights, but now we don't?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Apr,25 09:13 other posts 
In his capacity as an official! He still has the right to sue people who defame him PERSONALLY, he can just not use THE GOVERNMENT to crack down on people who have criticism of how he behaves OFFICIALLY.

That would be the stupidest loophole to completely destroy the First Amendment ever. What would be left of it, if a politician could just say "they offended me",
and then use the power of the government to crack down on a citizen.

You really do not understand what your founding fathers intended.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 19,Apr,25 14:46 other posts  ⤓
Phart you posted:
ā€œ what you and others don't understand is Trump is dealing with these colleges and universities that are promoting a anti American agenda.ā€˜

What anti-American agenda? Give us one example.
By phart [Ignore] 19,Apr,25 17:28 other posts 
written before Trump got in,
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is it not anti American to promote violence and hatred towards jews? we have religious freedom in this country.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 19,Apr,25 18:09 other posts 
Heritage leads Project 2025, also known as the 2025 Presidential Transition Project, an extensive plan that includes appointing ideologically aligned civil servants, restricting abortion access, opposing LGBTQ+ rights, transforming federal agencies for political purposes, and imposing strict immigration policies.[10][11][12] In September 2024, The New York Times reported that the Heritage Foundation used deceptive videos during the 2024 US election campaign to falsely claim that noncitizen voting posed a major threat.[13]

Right, Phart, that says it all. How could I have been so blind.
Listen, anyone has the right to stand on an orange crate in a public street corner and say what they want to say as long as itylegal. That bit of news is called the first amendment to the Constitution. What's more, a private university is a BUSINESS even if it is a non-profit. They, not the Clown, are the ones that say how they run their business.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 14,Apr,25 04:48 other posts 
When Obama became president, ALL Republicans and Tea baggers
were screaming from the rooftops: "Obama will tear up the constitution!",
"He'll never leave!", "He'll declare himself king!!".
For Trump: Check, check, and check.

Deathly silence from those Republicans and Tea baggers now.
You lot are all telling on yourself.


By phart [Ignore] 08,Apr,25 14:06 other posts 
some may not understand but this is a good thing long term,
oil is now 59.94 and gas is 1.99 a gallon wholesale at the moment. that means next month, our fuels should be noticeably less at the pump. which means cost of transport of goods will be cheaper, family's can afford to go on vacations, and etc. our storm damaged mountain regions will benefit because tourism will become affordable again.
all good for the little man. shucks, it will for sure help me on my planned road trip in a few months.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 08,Apr,25 17:13 other posts 
Do you understand CAUSE AND EFFECT? There is NONE in your claim.
There is no economic rule linking your chaos with lower prices for oil and gas.

Sometimes prices go up, sometimes prices go down. Trump didn't do this.
What he did do is just cause a global stock market crash, due to a trade war.
Those trade wars will make everything more expensive for those families.
People will lose their jobs. Even if some production is coming back to the US,
that will take YEARS. Meanwhile, your economy is going down the drain,
because other countries will trade less with the US. International trade is based
on trust, for a big part, and no one can trust your country now.
By phart [Ignore] 08,Apr,25 22:03 other posts 
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eliminate the tariffs, free trade.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,Apr,25 03:49 other posts 
That's not happening at the moment. You are claiming prices are going down NOW.
Do you understand CAUSE AND EFFECT?
By phart [Ignore] 09,Apr,25 09:35 other posts 
probably not the same way you do.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,Apr,25 11:02 other posts 
Tariffs are income taxes. Trump has put income taxes on all goods entering your country. In response to that, all those other countries have or will put income taxes
on all your goods. If that lowers some prices, like when demand drops for certain products, that will be temporary. The producers will sell less product, so they will lower their production and raise their prices to make the same profits. They will also need to fire employees, because they don't need all of them, when they produce less.
They cannot make their factories smaller, to reduce non-personnel operating costs,
so their margins will become smaller. Their product will become more expensive,
if they want to raise prices or not.

Trump put tariffs on everything, even coffee and bananas. Let's use them as an example. You cannot grow coffee and bananas, so all American products made with coffee and bananas will become more expensive for Americans and who ever you want to export these products to. When you export them, those products become even more expensive, because all those countries will tariff your products. They don't have the same tariffs on importing coffee and bananas and they don't have the same tariffs when they export them to anyone besides the US. Do you think you can undercut their prices, by a 2x tariffs amount? How much cheaper do your employees need to work, to compete with the rest of the world, that doesn't tariff each other?
By CAT52! [Ignore] 09,Apr,25 11:18 other posts  ⤓
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A temporary dip in gas prices won't erase all the harm these idiots are causing. So you save a few pennies while the rest of us loose our pensions. At a boy, Phart. Think what's important here
By PITBULL [Ignore] 09,Apr,25 17:24 other posts 
Who cares bitch! You are the Worst Member of April. Delete your profile, you rat.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 10,Apr,25 12:19 other posts 
Why? You are more unpopular, Chihuahua, than me. Delete yours
By phart [Ignore] 13,Apr,25 17:14 other posts  ⤓
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ā€œSaudi Arabia should be sending their trade representatives to the Trump administration right now, asking, ā€˜What was China providing you. Tell us what it is and we will make it in Saudi Arabia and provide a great trade deal',ā€ Ellen Wald, founder of the energy consulting firm, Transversal Consulting, told MEE


By phart [Ignore] 13,Apr,25 11:50 other posts 
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well,you can't say he is not fit for duty.


By phart [Ignore] 08,Apr,25 13:52 other posts 
so apparently the court agrees with what Trump is doing.
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,Apr,25 11:20 other posts 
Why do you think Trump appointed all those judges?
By leopoldij [Ignore] 13,Apr,25 11:45 other posts  ⤓
Judges aren't needed when you have a strong president. A president like trump knows what's good and bad and he, only he, can decide everything. This saves money too. Get rid of judges, let trump make all his wise decisions. And fuck the radical left.


By leopoldij [Ignore] 10,Apr,25 05:56 other posts 
You got a president who lies all the time.


Trump: "We're making a fortune with tariffs - $2bn a day"

This is a LIE. Data from US Treasury, which includes the impact of some of Trump's earlier tariffs, amounted to $215m a day.


Trump: "The US imported $9bn worth of goods per day last year"

This is a LIE. Even with tariffs, whose average daily rate is 22%, the volume of imports is to $2bn a day.


Trump: "We have a trillion dollar trade deficit with China".

This is a LIE. In 2024, China exported nearly $1tn more goods than it imported. That's globally. The US part is $295bn- which is far less than the $1tn claimed by Trump.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Apr,25 14:06 other posts 
Trump only tells the truth accidentally. Everything he says intentionally are lies.
By leopoldij [Ignore] 10,Apr,25 14:08 other posts 
That's a good way to put it.
And yet people in his cult love him, precisely because
he's a liar. I really can't comprehend this. But this
is what religion is. Religious fundamentalists cling
to this kind of shit.


By kebmo [Ignore] 09,Apr,25 18:02 other posts 
Of course he caved.
He will remain unpredictable and unstable.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Apr,25 14:04 other posts 
It's also possible that he's creating some relief in the markets, to allow the stocks
to go back up again, and make a lot of money on stocks for himself and his friends.
It's easy to make a lot of money from the stock market, if you control the policies
to make it crash and recover, at will.
It's fucking corrupt, but Trump doesn't give a fuck about that.


By phart [Ignore] 07,Apr,25 11:07 other posts 
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so folks want cheap solar to replace coal.
now they are bitching about supposed slave labor. how the hell is solar going to be affordable if you pay 20 dollars a hour for someone to make the cells?
quit sticking your noses into how other countries do things and just buy the cheaper products .you can't have cheap energy and tell other countries how to run their business's.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,Apr,25 12:01 other posts 
PV Solar and onshore wind are already cheaper than ALL other forms of energy.
Coal is about THREE TIMES more expensive.
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Since when do you care what workers are getting paid?
Actually, the manufacture of solar panels is a high skilled job and even in China
the workers who make them are likely paid higher than average wage for a worker.
Most of it is automated. The workers are just machine operators.
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It's exactly the type of production that you say you want back in the US.

Mining coal is an incredibly unhealthy job. It's also very labor intensive. Coal mines
in the US were going out of business, because it's a financially nonviable business.
They only tried to keep the industry alive by exploiting the workers and ignoring safety
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By phart [Ignore] 08,Apr,25 13:54 other posts 
my point is we as a country,the USA ,needs to stop meddling in other countries affairs. if china is ok with slave labor so be it, we can benefit from it if the products are cheaper than we can make them for.

coal mining is a dirty job. people have been doing it for well over a 100 years though and people still report to work every day to do it.
and if Trumps plans go forward,hopefully more will be getting jobs doing it. the 16,000 government workers can go apply for actual jobs that require physical effort.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 08,Apr,25 17:22 other posts 
Yes, stop meddling in Canada, Mexico, Panama, Greenland, Iran, Yemen and Palestine.
China has pulled more people out of poverty than you would ever want to.
Tell the billionaires you worship to do actual jobs that require physical effort.
By phart [Ignore] 08,Apr,25 22:05 other posts 
well when panama gives us back our canal then perhaps we can buzz off out of the rest of the country
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,Apr,25 03:46 other posts 
It's only Americans who think you can demand something back, after you give it away.

The Panama canal was made to ship goods quickly and cheaply between
the Atlantic and Pacific coasts. You can still do that. Why do you need to own it?
It's only because your stupid cult leader tells you.
By phart [Ignore] 09,Apr,25 09:37 other posts 
you are forgetting i was in school when dipstick carter gave it away.everyone i knew was peod because they knew it was important to our economy and our security. now russia,china or Zambians can shut it down because it was given away.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,Apr,25 10:51 other posts 
That's not an argument, the dipstick was your democratically elected president.
It now belongs to Panama, end of story. The Panama canal also doesn't belong
to Russia, China or Zambia. If they shut it down, it's up to Panama to resolve that problem. If they cannot, it's an act of aggression against Panama. I'm sure they would want your country to come to their defense then.

Just because Cheetolini doesn't understand that, doesn't mean you should adopt his nonsense.


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 08,Apr,25 17:23 other posts 
Did any of you know how Trump came up with the idea for tariffs?

He had Jared Kushner investigate a good trade policy program, for his first campaign.
Jared just looked for books in the economy section of Amazon, and found a book.
He didn't read any of the books, he just looked at covers, and he liked the book titled
"Death by China", by Peter Navarro, who later became Trump's key trade adviser.

In that book, Navarro introduced a character named Ron Vara, who was portrayed as a seasoned economist offering critical insights into China's economic practices. However, investigative reports later revealed that Ron Vara was not a real person but an alias created by Navarro himself. The name "Ron Vara" is an anagram of "Navarro," and he used this pseudonym across multiple publications to present viewpoints aligning with his own perspectives on China's trade practices.

So, now you have a president, who implemented the economic vision, of the alter-ego
of a paranoid schizophrenic. This is a RECORD LEVEL OF INCOMPETENCE.


By kebmo [Ignore] 07,Apr,25 09:46 other posts 
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

The Dow Jones opens on another multi trillion dollar slide!

Hopefully investors will calm down and turn this around
because everybody loses in this scenario.
By phart [Ignore] 07,Apr,25 11:08 other posts 
stock market is headed back up, 300 up so far. you did read the page i posted last night about 50 countries trying to negotiate deals right now didn't you>?
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,Apr,25 11:10 other posts 
Oh, good, it's all back to normal then.

By phart [Ignore] 07,Apr,25 11:25 other posts 
just showing you how things work, up ,down,all around. panic mode. if you own stock, you let a advisor tell you what you should do, in situations like this, it is better to have a good dividend stock instead of worrying about making a bunch on a quick sale.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,Apr,25 11:56 other posts 
Let Rand Paul tell you how tariffs work.

WATCH: Republican Senator Absolutely SLAMS Trump's Tariff Plan
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By kebmo [Ignore] 07,Apr,25 11:55 other posts  ⤓
How is negotiating deals for importing products going to bring all that manufacturing back to the US?
As I'm sure you know, Donald Trump said on many occasions that these tariffs will be permanent…
Of course being Donald Trump, the fickle man he is, everything or anything can change on a whim, a thought, a misspoken sentence or a stupid post on Twitter. That's your president.


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