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It was international airspace from what I understand
Democrats, from liberals to lefties, have not made wildly exaggerated claims to make people believe Russia is hell and Putin is the devil, they have been MORE truthful about life in Russia, their fake democracy, the lack of freedom and how Russia/Putin operates in the world, to destabilize countries.
The goal of the Democrats and the European union has been to cooperate and trade with Russia, in the hope of maintaining peace. That has not been successful, because Putin used nationalism to maintain his power. The only way for people to accept a dictator, over democracy, is that dictator telling them to be afraid and angry and to prefer a strong leader to save them, from the evil others. It's a playbook that is thousands years old. It forces the dictator into actions of hostility towards the evil others, no matter who they might be. Putin is telling his people that they are fighting Nazis in Ukraine. There are definitely some ultra-conservative nationalist militarized groups in Ukraine, that can be described as Nazis, but democracy was winning in Ukraine, when Russia attacked them. It was just propaganda, from a dictator, to retain power.
[We saw the same in Israel. Netanyahu was losing support from his citizens, for being a corrupt fuck-up, so he propped up Hamas to have an enemy, for his people to be afraid and believe his nationalist propaganda. He has been disrupting any pathway to peace. We have seen the results.]
Trump has created an incredible shift towards Russia among Republicans. The party flipped from being hard anti-Russia, to far to the other side. It's purely because Trump likes the dictators he met, in his function as president and he is jealous of the power those dictators have as president.
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Here is Trump talking about Putin in 2016:
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This is Trump talking about Putin more recently:
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(but Trump thinks he can negotiate peace in an hour with Putin. So dumb!)
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Trump used to call Kim Jong-un ‘little rocket man’.
Later he said they fell in love.
Meanwhile, you have Tucker Carlson interviewing Putin and allowing him to further his propaganda. He also visited Russia, praised their subway stations, low prices in supermarkets and shopping carts. He was gobsmacked about Russia looking like a normal country, with people living a normal life, because he believed all the propaganda for decades. An authoritarian regime doesn't look that oppressive on the surface and can build a nice looking subway station. The prices are low to him, because he's fucking rich, but for the average Russian those supermarket prices are more unaffordable than American supermarket prices for the average American. He's not too dumb to understand that, he is making his audience dumber, intentionally.
Your withdrawal from ant-Russia propaganda is not fact based,
it's just because your cult-leader praises them.
No one else ever believed Russians are dumb, that's JUST YOU.
Putin is very smart and he's playing Trump and you like a violin.
Your orange buffoon thinks he can negotiate with them, by forcing Ukraine to give up the land that Russia conquered. Putin might agree, take the land, and just start over
the same process a few years later, after he has rearmed and indoctrinated his citizens, how much they achieved in the last campaign.
I will spare you the photos of body parts laying on tables for sale
Not referring to the famine, but just as a habit.
And the liberals would love to tax this man to death for being successful.
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No one should be grateful for a job. That's being a cuck to the owner class.
I don't know about the US, but in the Port of Rotterdam the education requirement starts at Community College level. It's possible that we have a higher education requirement, because automation is at a higher level.
The job market is tight. Automation is not targeting to put people out of their jobs, but to increase efficiency. The same number of people can be more productive through automation. It also reduces their risk and strain on their bodies. If automation does reduce the number of jobs, it's the worst jobs that get eliminated first. It frees those people for better jobs.
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Turns out keeping the economy going is more important to some people than others.
A strike during this disaster and with Christmas coming up, is poor timing.
Damn those dock workers and their 62% pay increase and lack of concern for the majority of Americans that can't just sit down in a chair and demand more money or shut the country down.
Of course not, it's perfect timing, if you want your strike to incentivize leadership
to negotiate towards your demands.
When people have jobs that don't impact anyone, you say they don't deserve
a good wage, when people have important jobs that impact everyone, you say
they aren't allowed to strike for a good wage. In both cases it's serve the owner class and fuck the working class. They brainwashed you, because you are programmed
to never make a logical argument for working class people making a good wage.
you don't make the majority of the people suffer for a fews demands unless you really don't care about them and that is what strikes do. That shows the public that the pilots or dock workers or auto workers do not appreciate their jobs or care about their neighbors and the negative affects a strike has on them. If I owned a small company, and was waiting on a shipment of bearing for machines I was building and the bastards wouldn't unload the container so I could keep my plant going and my people working so they could earn a salary, i sure as hell would not give a damn about the dock workers.
More hatred for Elom Musk by the liberal democrats in charge I guess.
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Elon has already shown that private company's can do as well as if not better with the space program than nasa, exposing the waste there, I hope Elon pushes this and exposes waste in Fema, which I know first hand takes place.
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On a Brighter note, our former and hopefully next President, has started a fund and has raised 3 million dollars so far to help in relief efforts.
Note at this time there is no evidence that harris,biden,clinton or any of the rest have done a damn thing but maybe visit the sites on OUR dime.
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Yep, that's an important question for November. It's THE question.
Do you want to argue with me about the answer?
But yeah I agree she is an empty suit
It's probably because she's a woman. She's only fuck-meat to you.
She's just crushed Trump in a debate, by talking about what she wants to do
for the American people, while Trump was lying about Haitians eating pets,
which was a false flag from a Nazi group called Blood Tribe.
Sure, a guy who parrots conspiracy theories from Nazi's, that's the guy
you want leading the world. It really shows his mental acuity.
If he talked about the problem of so many LEGAL immigrants having to make a life
in such a small place, sure maybe then. But he was just spreading hate-speech.
I don't believe anything else he's saying, because he's not clear about it.
He's only clear about promising to be a Nazi. Well, and about being stupid.
You SHOULDN'T believe anything Kamala Harris says.
You fact check what both parties said in that debate.
Trump lied dozens of times, it's hard to even keep score,
and Harris made one or two claims that were not completely fair.
Your side has accused her of lying, but you haven't shown it.
It's always funny, when your side is angry about Democrats not helping people,
but when they actually do, it's socialism.
It's "Heads I win, tails you lose". Don't you see that?
Tell me; what do you want Democrats to do, to help normal people,
and is not socialism? Be strict at the border? They tried, Trump blocked it.
What else? And what did Trump say he would do about it?
Maybe look into history a bit, it wasn't much fun for the Nazi citizens either.
Maybe they didn't have it as rough as their victims, but many died like flies.
Why repeat a part of history that was nothing but a waste of lives?
Maybe that's the worst case scenario, but find me the best case of a dictator
taking over a country. When was that ever fun for the citizens?
You cannot show people to be a Nazi with a blood test, it's behavior.
When he says ..... are poisoning the blood of Americans, that's Nazi speech.
He's talking about deporting LEGAL immigrants, not just the ILlegals.
are those Nazis by your definition?
When they have no tattoos, but say the same things, are they Nazis then?
Nick Fuentes is a literal Nazi, every Nazi loves him, he loves Nazis.
He was angry at Trump for a while, for not saying the things he wants to hear,
now he's very happy with Trump for saying what he wants to hear again.
What else than the speech and ideas make people Nazis?
Actions? Hitler was a Nazi before he ever had one Jew killed,
but it all started with his speech and his ideas.
We cannot see Trump's ideas, but we can hear his words.
And they are too similar to not call him at least a fascist.
Since he recently started parroting Nazi propaganda, I upgraded him.
Since the word socialist is also a part of your political mindset, are YOU a nazi? Of course not.
When Hitler first began speaking he spoke against Marxism.
So does that mean that everyone that is against Marxism is a nazi?
" Most problems could be solved, he explained, if communists and Jews were driven from the nation. "
Since most all of us denounce communism, are we all suddenly Nazi's??
Think about it Ananas, you aren't that dumb.
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Hitler spoke against Marxism, because he was a capitalist.
He privatized a lot of the social structure of Germany.
That didn't make him a Nazi, it just made him NOT a socialist.
He believed in PRIVATE capital, so he didn't like communism either.
The most important characteristic of the Nazis was white nationalism,
not just the idea that white people are better, but also that the country
needs to be 'purified'. It's that ideology that turned into the Holocaust and why you don't like anyone on your side associated with it, not because they were against communism. Tell me you understand that. You aren't that dumb.
I'm not a Nazi, because I'm not a white nationalist, who wants to purify
his country. Tell me that Trump doesn't have that ideology! Lie for me!
or phart or tecsan or several others.
You're just my training for me advancing my socialist agenda.
Your country is probably a lost cause. The best possible is some social progressivism combined with weak neo-liberalism, but my country is already getting tired of the right-wing fake populists, who break all their promises.
They are ripe for my Socialist Party. Power To The people!
IF you REALLY believed in your cause, you would never give up trying to convert people to your ideas.
I know there is a better way than what we have been coping with the past 3.5 years. I had a taste of it 4 years prior.
A Shepard doesn't chase the sheep that are within the fold, he only chases after those that have strayed.
People who believe that feudalism is better than social democracy,
while they themselves suffer the effects from the kleptocracy that is
quickly turning into feudalism, are too far gone.
Don't worry, I'm here to debate you. It might not help you,
but there are others who might read it.
Socialism isn't charity, it maximizes the potential of people
and provides a good bottom standard of living for everyone
who is not capable of contributing to society.
Unlike capitalism, where rich people tell you what to do,
socialism requires people to think and participate.
What are we to do with people who just want to give power over their lives away to some family line of elitists?
Let me quote so I can do this easier.
"a good bottom standard of living for everyone
who is not capable of contributing to society."
Ok so that seems as if you are referencing the handicapped or mentally challenged correct? Ok, with that understood,
WHAT about those that are unwilling to contribute, or deliberately try to compromise the system?
How does your system handle those? They do not deserve anything in the opinion of most people.
to compromise the system?
If you think criminals are doing that, you are wrong. They always justify their actions with a bad childhood, a bad neighborhood, less chances than others, the idea that the world is a bad place, people are bad so they deserve it, or just "This is capitalism, I take what I can get!".
If we make the world better, we reduce the validity of those justifications. Additionally, it would just be easier to be a decent person.
There will always be some people who are just born morally defective.
I think those people are mentally ill. I would provide them with the same good bottom standard of living and mental healthcare. At some point, some will turn around. If they don't, society is better off with those people causing minimal damage. They would do more damage in a system where they need to take care of themselves. Where do you think crime comes from? Why do you want people to steal to survive?
"They do not deserve anything in the opinion of most people."
You say that, but that's just an assumption. If you take the emotions out of it and just consider what's best for society, I think most people will understand that it's not about what some people deserve, but what society deserves.
You are targeting life for everyone to the conviction that some people are just bad. That makes good people suffer for the actions of bad people.
I think that is not good strategy; good people are already suffering too much from the actions of bad people. I want to minimize that.
Watching your neighbor get the same life you get after a 40 hour work week, what incentive is there to continue to work if you can get the same basics handed to you while resting on your ass?
Some people are lazy,and honestly have no goals other than to breath and eat and fart. why do they deserve anything?
Of course not, people won't work for free. Every hour you work will be added on top of your bottom standard of living.
Humanity has developed to an incredible level of abundance,
we just allow it to be divided incredibly unequally.
You do absorb giving a good life to those that do nothing for it.
What do you think the children of wealthy people do? NOTHING!
They show up to some boardroom every other week and tell the managers to work those lazy workers a bit harder for their billions.
just because you or I were not born into a wealthy family is no reason to resent it.
I don't want to serve a king. As an American, you shouldn't either.
Capitalism is represented as a Meritocracy, but that's fake.
People's success is more and more defined by who their parents are,
not by their intelligence, skills and knowledge. That's harmful.
I have no problem with people being more successful than me,
when they are more intelligent, skilled and knowledgeable than I am,
I have a problem with being controlled by STUPID people.
you will also have to define stupid. Because everyone seems to think it means something different. some think it means that a person doesn't know anything. Some think if they don't agree with them they are stupid.
If I worked all my life and had a good home and financial stability, I would want to leave for my off spring.not some government or person that does not even know me. again, you are taking away incentive to do better than basic needs if you think people should just give up what they work for.
Second, the ownership of a business needs to be taxed higher than the ownership of a house. Children at least often lived in the house of their parents, but they did absolutely nothing for a business, to get the business of their parents passed onto them. There are way too many methods to inherit a business without paying any taxes.
Then of course, as a socialist, I don't like a system where private capital rules the world. This world and the system we use, to maintain civilization, should belong to everyone, or at least get distributed more evenly.
I'm not the one taking away the incentive to do better, you are.
When people who have not done anything to deserve the capital that controls the rest of the people, just because they won the birth lottery, what incentive do those children of wealthy parents have? They got everything for nothing, and now they control other people. That will guarantee that they will not use their control correctly.
And how about everyone else, who is being forced to work for a child who never worked, for their control over them, themselves?
Is that an incentive to do well for yourself? Why? The example is that people get power for doing nothing; bad example.
Why do you think capitalism invented managers? Because at least they have some intelligence and skills, to represent the owners,
so the workers don't see how stupid the owners are.
Civilization should stop giving ownership and control away to family lines. We can have public ownership, public capital and public investments, which we control democratically, by electing actual smart people to represent us. That's an incentive to do better, because people would have responsibility, an actual chance to excel, and if they have real intelligence and skill, they could be voted in to represent the people. Of course every achievement
will come with appropriate rewards. Just not 1000x more to live in absolute luxury, and never have an incentive again to be good/better.
Stupid, unintelligent, unwise, irrational, having no knowledge and no experience, growing up with the idea of being superior, while actually being inferior in all the things I mentioned before. This is what many children of wealthy people are. Even if one of their parents was in fact a genius, that's not necessarily hereditary. And if it was, it's often only one sided good genes, because successful men don't often end up having children with successful women. Often they go for the young beauty with big tits and no brainpower to speak of. Their dumber son getting succession, is probably not picking a smarter woman. A few births further down the hereditary line, and the genius of the man who once created the empires is completely bred out.
Trump's father was probably pretty smart, D.J. Trump is obviously not, although you deny it. But goddamn have you seen his sons? Completely useless human waste, which will be heir to the empire
of their grandfather, if their father doesn't fuck it up completely.
Elon Musk had some good ideas that made him the wealthiest man in the world. He's smarter than average, but it was family wealth and confidence that made him successful. He's definitely not a genius. But, how about his hundred children? Did they get his genes? Maybe he's breeding so many of them, so he has some choice in picking the best one, to continue his legacy. At least that's some idea of responsibility. If he could also teach them morality,
it would be acceptable. Unfortunately, most wealthy people leave their legacy to their affluenza suffering moronic children.
Listen to this, it's mostly a-political:
"Harvard's Secret Curriculum for Dumb Rich Kids"
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You don't have to be "smart" you have to hire people that are.
There is a interview of Musk on youtube where he explains just that. He doesn't know everything, but he hires smart people. and apparently pays them well enough they don't waste their income on union dues.
who have not worked for it; the children of wealthy people.
There should be lower inheritance taxes for the middle class
and higher inheritance taxes for the wealthy.
Some people inherit nothing from their parents or just debt.
How fair is that? You cannot pick your parents. It just luck or not.
I don't want them to have that wealth in the first place.
We don't need wealthy people to invest in civilization.
So you do believe it, if some wealthy asshole tells you?
Can you not understand that without their acknowledgement?
When you are already wealthy, it is not hard to become even more wealthy, because the whole system is created exactly for them to do that. They bribed your politicians for it and they created their own media to indoctrinate the people into thinking the wealthy are entitled to what they get, because they are geniuses. You did not think of this yourself, they told you or cunningly put the idea in your mind, several times per day,
for decades.
Elon Musk is a union buster. He's nothing special as an employer.
Poor people can't invest in civilization, only bring it down further. what would they invest if they could?
As a side note, I think you are forgetting something.
TO inherit something from a family member, means that you have LOST that family member to the grave. that is 1 hell of a tax. For example, you would inherit your wifes portion of the estate if she passed. That would be 1 hell of a tax on your emotionally would it not? IN the court of law here in the US if you hit someone in a car and cause injury, they are awarded a settlement in court, Money ,that in a legal sense makes the victim whole again. The gov has always stepped back a bit when it comes to hammering on inheritance tax, life insurance and accident settlements because it is the only legal way to make the survivors whole again .And trust me, a politician that starts talking about raising inheritance tax, will be frowned on as it is disrespectful of the deads wishes.
Inheritance tax is not paid by the one who earned the money,
those people are DEAD. It's paid by the one who gets it.
The wealthy have taught people to frown on inheritance tax,
while they probably never pay a cent of inheritance tax.
Some people are stupid enough to say: "I'm happy my parents were dirt poor, or I had to pay inheritance tax!". Cuckolds!
When people pay for food, gas and furniture, they pay taxes,
while they already paid taxes on the income they pay it with.
Why is that more fair than inheritance taxes?
I'm not saying poor people can invest, I'm saying everyone combined as the public can invest in civilization.
Just set up a democratically controlled bank, managed by representatives, and invest in big projects from that bank. Then the bank owns it and takes the returns from it. Then that bank grows public capital, and the elected representatives put it to service of the people, by investing in what is important for people. Instead of some wealthy fail-son deciding what to do with the money, the voters decide what to do with the money.
Biden/Harris really f...ked us up.
Not to mention the fact that democrats are creating this false utopia hoping voters memory's are shorter than their dicks.
Long before the COVID-19 pandemic the Trump administration was squandering the pockets of strength in the American economy it had inherited.
Broad-based prosperity requires strength on the supply, demand, and distributive sides of the economy, and Trump administration policies were either weak or outright damaging on these fronts.
Demand: Most of the Trump tax cuts went to already-rich corporations and households, who tend to save rather than spend most of any extra dollar they’re given.
Supply: Business investment plummeted under the Trump administration, despite their lavishing tax cuts on corporate business.
Distribution: The Trump administration undercut labor standards and rules that can buttress workers’ bargaining power.
You don’t have to be an economist to know how the U.S. economy is doing today: It’s an utter shambles, with tens of millions of workers unable to find the work they need to get by, and with tens of millions of families facing extreme hardship and anxiety. These terrible conditions are mostly the result of the failure to manage and contain the COVID-19 outbreak, and the failure to appropriately respond in the economic policymaking realm.
President Trump, however, clearly wants voters to see the COVID-19 outbreak and fallout as nobody’s fault, and further wants to be graded on how the economy was doing pre-COVID-19. This is obviously absurd; the administration didn’t cause COVID-19, but it is responsible for the botched response to it.
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So, Phart, like all the other MAGA members here including you, why is it when you are quoted FACTS, you ignore and don't respond?
up to the day you die of starvation, or in a riot of people fighting over food.
Also, the hundred million of Americans who hate Trump don't deserve it.
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I seen on the news today that the reason why eggs and chicken are so high is because 38 of the fifty states, the chickens have the bird flu and don’t produce eggs during that event.
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GAO of gas
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Certainly not some scummy millionaire.
Eggs, no problem. Alot of neighbors have chickens and since I keep their machinery running, I have eggs. Gas wholesale at the moment is 1.95 a gallon. so it should be reasonable at the pump. but it aint.
Steak, aint had a good steak in years. cost to damn much.
While the U.S.'s dependence on Russian crude oil is relative, Russia was the second-largest crude oil exporter worldwide in 2021. The economic sanctions against Russia contributed to crude oil and petrol price inflation in a market which cannot be protected from price disruptions and was already impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic. This contributed to the increase in regular gasoline prices in the United States throughout 2022, up to the highest retail price on record since 1990.
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In other words, either you are full of BS or your recollection is from 1976.
the dems are hoping our memorys are short. I am willing to bet if kamala wins gas will be back to 4 a gallon by the time she takes office. then only up from there
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Here is Trump looking at it HIMSELF. Now, show me a video of kamala even addressing this issue?? YOU CAN"T
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How is it that China can just buy up important parts in your country? CAPITALISM!
Your country is up for grabs to the highest bidder, doesn't matter if it's China or Saudi Arabia or my country, you shouldn't sell it to foreign entities. Still, Dr. Phil is dumb about a lot of things; just because land around your important facilities is owned by China doesn't mean they can start an invasion or something from that land.
They could however be spying on you from their property. OK, maybe hacking.
You need to start worrying when your country sells the important infrastructure itself
to China, like communication, power, water and waste. But, it's not good.
You are now blaming Democrats, but selling American property to the highest bidder
is very much a Republican thing. They only just realized it might be not so smart.
Here is Kamala Harris criticizing Trump for selling you out to China:
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What do you think Joe Biden's chip act was all about?
Taking back chip manufacturing to the US, to reduce your vulnerability to China!
We talked about this! Sometimes I think I'm talking to a brick wall.
[Of all foreign-owned U.S. land, Canadian investors owned the most at 12.8 million acres. This makes up 31% of all foreign-owned U.S. land. Four other countries held 12.4 million acres combined, or another 31% of foreign-owned land: the Netherlands (12%), Italy (7%), the United Kingdom (6%), and Germany (6%).]
1.4% of our agricultural land is owned by foreign investors, I fucking hate that!
We are suffering the pollution, so it should be owned by Dutch people.
If you want to sell American land to foreign investors, that's your business.
I call Dr. Phil dumb, because he thinks he's the only one
who thinks about these things.
Did you think Trump had thought about it ever before?
Why did you say "Here is Trump looking at it HIMSELF"?
You acknowledge that Trump has never thought about it.
Democrats DO think about these things AND ACT!
Republicans just deregulate and give power away to the 'free market'.
That has consequences for the sovereignty and security of your country.
You are afraid of China doing anything harmful to Americans, but meanwhile
Trump is eliminating and slashing funding (for) almost every government entity designed to protect the American people.
What are you afraid of? China poisoning your tap water? It's already poisoned by your own industry! China wiretapping you? Google and Meta already know everything about you. China bringing you another virus? Then don't destroy the organizations of specialists who's job it is to protect you against epidemics!
most of it is within digging distance of our military bases. You ever heard of tunnels? Also, research EMF.and EMP
and when the chinc's own it, we will never be able to buy it back
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"In conclusion, while the prospect of buying land in China may seem daunting to American investors due to the country's distinct legal framework and ownership restrictions, there are avenues to navigate this complex market."
Those "ownership restrictions" probably include land near vital infrastructure.
By the way, the Biden government has taken action against Chinese ownership.
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Obviously Trump didn't know anything about this. Because he's stupid.
I'm not saying Biden would know, but he appoints officials who know.
Trump only appoints stupid people. Only their loyalty to him counts for him.
Project 2025 contains a plan to fire all the smart people and put in loyalists.
They will only do what the demented leader tells them to do.
Why would they even attempt to bury microphones?
I don't think we have them around our bases. Or they don't say.
Although it's pretty hard to tunnel in mud, with groundwater 3 feet deep.
When we build a subway or a tunnel, the water is the biggest challenge.
"If you look at the situation now, china is the new russia, we are being told to be afraid of china, hate china and etc, same as we were told about russia years ago.
where did that get us?
no where good."
They are telling you to hate and be afraid, and you follow the order.
We don't have to believe that China is evil, to be careful.
Why do you need to believe that they want to damage you?
Just believe that your country and China have conflicting goals.
But also understand that they are very pragmatic about their goals.
They have no interest in damaging themselves, just to damage you.
In fact, they have been partners to your both benefit for decades.
It's your country not allowing them to become too strong from it,
that they are telling you to hate and fear them now.
Why isn't it Russia anymore? Because Russia is not the big bad communist bear, that is challenging your system, anymore. Their power and influence over the world has been beaten, communism has been beaten. What remains is a mostly isolated country, with big boy pants on (nukes), but with an ideology that doesn't threaten yours. Putin is an authoritarian right-wing conservative alpha-man, exactly the kind of character you want to let rule your country.
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