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This thread is for questionable content. WHY? Just because! I am someone who enjoys the Hodge Twins. YEP, the Hodge Twins. They probably make the hairs on the back of a WOKE person stand straight up! Anyway.....

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By phart [Ignore] 07,Feb,26 06:57 other posts 
so who wants to hoe some cotton?
My mother did when she was young,
i guess kids need to go back to doing it because the chemicals are so "dangerous".
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you can't have your cotton full of weeds
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,Feb,26 07:18 other posts 
Ever heard if 'organic cotton'? It's the term used for cotton that is produced
without using pesticides. There is no reason to pick cotton by hand, just because
you don't use pesticides anymore.
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By phart [Ignore] 09,Feb,26 08:34 other posts 
hoe cotton, i didn't say Pick cotton. Difference is hoeing is removing weeds from it. Mom's hoe got lost after the divorce back in the 80's but there was at least 2 inches worn off 1 corner of it.and that was done BEFORE she turned 16.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,Feb,26 10:59 other posts 
There are already machines for that.
It's not like that requires an AI revolution.
By phart [Ignore] 09,Feb,26 11:16 other posts 
yea but a chemical and a drone make very easy and cheap work of deweeding the crops.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Feb,26 03:33 other posts 
At some point humanity needs to veer away from using chemicals that destroy nature,
instead of using them because it's easy.
By phart [Ignore] 10,Feb,26 07:45 other posts 
well, that means having less cotton for clothes or putting humans back to work keeping the cotton hoed, you can't have both.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Feb,26 10:12 other posts 
They suffer only a 82–93% reduction of the conventional yield.
That's an acceptable trade off, for not killing nature.
Strange how you do care, when it's solar panels, for which it isn't even true.
By phart [Ignore] 10,Feb,26 18:29 other posts 
that only leaves 7% of the yield to be harvested, that is quite a loss is it not?
By CAT52! [Ignore] 10,Feb,26 20:20 other posts 
Actually those numbers refer to using the CURRENT amount of organic cotton grown. The actual numbers are
While organic farming is better for soil health, a total shift would likely result in a 90%+ reduction in available cotton fiber, creating a major supply-demand crisis for the textile industry.
It would still cause some shortages of cotton but it’s doable
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 11,Feb,26 07:37 other posts 
What's your source?
ChatGPT cannot find any data that comes close to a 90%+ reduction.
"Most research suggests organic cotton yields tend to be somewhere around
10–50% lower, depending on region, farming practices, climate, and years
after conversion." That's ChatGPT searching all sources, even the ones
that might have some bias against organic cotton.

We don't need to reach the 'organic cotton' certification completely.
That is a requirement to stop using synthetic fertilizer too.
I'm only talking about banning toxic pest and weed control.
Synthetic fertilizer is no where near as harmful to the environment.

New technologies make it possible to extract very useful fibers from e.g. bamboo, on a large scale. Bamboo can yield ~5–7 times more fiber per square mile than cotton. It doesn't require any weed control, because bamboo outgrows everything, and the pest control can be done biologically, without any impact on yield. (I'm not talking about very rare cases of pests.) At the moment, creating those bamboo fibers is a damn polluting process, but that's just a matter of innovation.
By CAT52! [Ignore] 11,Feb,26 09:26 other posts 
Oops. My mistake. I copy/pasted the wrong paragraph. You are right. The 90% I misquoted is as of THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF ORGANIC. COTTON USED TODAY. But, that is only about 8% of the total output of the cotton harvested now. If that 8% disappears it would cause a noticeable decrease but not enough that the industry couldn’t go forward.
Again, oops. Sorry. 🤣🤣
By phart [Ignore] 11,Feb,26 10:14 other posts 
I was just going by what Ananas said above
"They suffer only a 82–93% reduction of the conventional yield."
If you read that and do the math, that doesn't leave much cotton! 93% from a 100% leaves 7% of the cotton for use. NO wonder my fruit of the looms cost more now!
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 11,Feb,26 11:07 other posts 
Yep, that was me making the exact same mistake.
I didn't even see that until now.
I will turn off the lights and suffer my shame for an hour.
By phart [Ignore] 11,Feb,26 13:13 other posts 
Everyone makes a mistake once in a while, just this once I will let you slide, But don't you do it again!
By CAT52! [Ignore] 11,Feb,26 14:01 other posts 
Well, if you are going to suffer for an hour in shame in the dark, you might want to take advantage of that idle right hand. 🤣🤣
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 11,Feb,26 15:06 other posts 
That would have been a reward that I didn't deserve.
I'm OK again, but I will never forget this cleansing experience.

Anyway, saving nature really doesn't require huge sacrifices.
Continuing to pollute it will come back to hunt us eventually.
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 18,Feb,26 09:30 other posts 
Why Everyone's Talking About Stephen Colbert, CBS, The FCC And James Talarico
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If the FCC idiot had left it alone, it would have never gotten this much attention.

Now this video has 5.3 million views and rising.
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By the way, James Talarico has recruited 14,000 volunteers, has shattered grassroots fundraising records and has not taken any money from corporate PACs. IN TEXAS!!!


By phart [Ignore] 17,Feb,26 00:42 other posts 
This has to be Cat at the gas pump~~`
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By Cody8789 [Ignore] 17,Feb,26 02:47 other posts 
That’s because the gas tanks are shrinking as they get older just like our penis’s
By phart [Ignore] 17,Feb,26 08:03 other posts 

Yep,i am struggling now to not wet my boots when I wiz!
By CAT52! [Ignore] 17,Feb,26 12:02 other posts 
That’s because conservatives are such tight asses they can only get so much gas up their bungs. 🤣🤣
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 17,Feb,26 18:34 other posts 
Phart, just sit down to pee so you don’t have to clean thewhole bathroom after every pee, I’m not embarrassed by that, I admit in the middle of the night I go and sit and pee so I don’t miss the bowl and make a mess.
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 17,Feb,26 18:36 other posts 
I guess that makes me a conservative because I have a tight asshole . And the problem with old people is not getting the gas up there bung but getting it out without poopie coming out too
By phart [Ignore] 17,Feb,26 22:22 other posts 
YEP< never trust a fart when you are over 50
By t-rex [Ignore] 17,Feb,26 19:30 other posts 
Hilarious


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 11,Feb,26 08:29 other posts 
Here is an interesting scenario to think about, describing some possible dystopia:

We are in a future where robots have taken over ALL the jobs, even prostitution is replaced by robotic Waifu whores. There was a war between the wealthy, and now "The Table of Privileged" (10 immortal wealthy people) control EVERYTHING and EVERYONE ELSE.

People get a monthly allowance of $1000/month, and prices for food and rent and everything else are stable, and about similar with today. It is strictly forbidden to build
your own shelter or grow your own food.
For every dollar above the standard $1000/month, someone older than 50 dies;
one 50+ person, for every $1000.

"The Table" is adamant that the random death is quick and painless, but most people have seen someone kick and scream for an hour, before they burn up into a pile of ashes.
"The Table" is almost untouchable, because they have a huge mercenary army of "Loyalists", that brutally suppresses all protests and disappears people who criticize the system. The "Loyalists" get $10,000/month, but they voluntarily kill themselves on their 50th birthday. Of course they all prove their loyalty, by committing heinous acts for "The Table".

Some people manage to live their life, by buying a tent and a sleeping bag, and the food they need, to save up for a mini-home, costing $25,000. They are not allowed in the city, they live in the wasteland, until they buy that mini-home. Others live like there is no tomorrow, live in a $10,000/month luxury apartment and spend like crazy. Their argument: "I'm 25 years old. I have another 25 years without a care in the world. Don't expect me to cry for some old fart, who had a good life and gets a quick painless death!".

There have been attempts to beat this system. By word of mouth, a "Day Of Retribution" was set several times. The "Loyalists" found out every time, and it was a massacre every time. The people almost won a few years back. Another date has been set. It can work,
if everyone fights them, with whatever weapons they can lay their hands on.
However, the "Loyalists" gain ranks every single year.

What will you do?
By phart [Ignore] 11,Feb,26 10:16 other posts 
Well, i guess if you were born into this environment you probably would not be motivated to build your own shelter, probably wouldn't know how. Weapons would be clubs and rocks, so a war with the wealthy would be very difficult to win. and with suicide at 50 for all, it would be a waste of time to exist.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 11,Feb,26 11:18 other posts 
"It is strictly forbidden to build your own shelter or grow your own food."
In that kind of world, you will probably be executed for it, by the "Loyalists".
The suicide pact is only for the "Loyalists".

It's a damn shitty situation, but if everyone accepts to not go over the $1000/month limit, no one gets the horrible random death. But, how do you get everyone to agree?
"The Table" would not care if the people tried to start a movement to have people agree with limiting their spending to a $1000/month. That's not considered criticizing them.
They might not even care if some join forces to kill the big spenders.
However, what is the moral choice here? The big spenders didn't create this system,
they just prefer a 50 year long good life, over a long shitty one. Who is right?

There is also the inherent evil of the wealthy gaslighting people and the big spenders copying that, to help ease their conscience. Criticizing that is dangerous.

There will be enough to buy in the stores. Everyone gets $1000/month, robots can make everything, and the wealthy do want some sort of economy to keep the sheeple docile. Guns will obviously be banned, but kitchen utilities and sports accessories will be available. They got to keep the big spenders happy. People can buy a lot of knives and baseball bats and create an arsenal. The "Loyalists" are not everywhere, all the time, people can practice to become quite lethal with knife throwing. If everyone attacks them everywhere at the same time, it will be a bloodbath, but the people will win, in a day.
I didn't say that they were protected by a robot army, didn't I? (It's just a scenario)

'The Table' must have created this system for a reason, which is probably reducing overpopulation and taking most of the remaining resources for themselves.
There is no war, climate change is under control, nature is recovering.
The wealthy saw that humanity was destroying itself, Mars turned out to be
just a fantasy, so they acted to save themselves, with totalitarianism.

Will you join the big spenders? It depends a bit on your age, right?
As a young person, you would feel a lot different about it, than as an older person.

I designed this scenario to contain lots of shitty dilemmas.
So, what do you do?


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Feb,26 06:57 other posts 
New Records Reveal Unseen Activity Near Jeffrey Epstein’s Jail Cell.

Newly released documents from the U.S. Department of Justice provide additional details about Jeffrey Epstein’s final hours at the Metropolitan Correctional Center (MCC) in New York, raising fresh questions about the official account of his death.

What the Video Logs Show

The surveillance logs note a flash of an orange-colored shape moving near Epstein’s cell tier around 10:39 p.m., the night before he was found dead. The logs describe it as unusual, but interpretations differ:
- The FBI log suggested it could have been an inmate.
- The Justice Department’s Office of Inspector General (OIG) said it might have been a corrections officer carrying bedding or performing routine duties.

Why the Public Has Not Seen the Footage

The frames showing this activity were never released to the public, because they occurred during a brief camera reset. Authorities describe this as routine technical downtime for the surveillance system, but the timing has fueled skepticism. Observers note that the unusual activity coincides exactly with a moment when the camera was offline, creating a gap in the visual record that cannot be independently verified.

Limited Camera Angles and Ambiguities

Even for footage that exists, the camera covering the stairwell and cell tier provided only a single, partially obstructed angle. Analysts have noted that this makes it difficult to clearly identify anyone approaching the cell, further complicating interpretations of the unusual movement logged that night.

Discrepancies in Guard Reports

Interviews with the corrections officers on duty, Tova Noel and Michael Thomas, reveal gaps in memory and inconsistencies in inmate counts. Both had previously faced charges (later dropped) related to falsifying records. While these discrepancies do not prove foul play, they contribute to ongoing public concern about the circumstances of Epstein’s death.

Timeline and Official Narrative Remain Unchanged

Official records maintain that Epstein was discovered dead the following morning and that his death was ruled a suicide. No medical examiner or DOJ statement has formally revised the cause of death. However, the newly released logs and internal descriptions provide additional detail that was previously invisible to the public, leaving open questions about timeline, surveillance gaps, and activity near Epstein’s cell.

Why This Matters

While there is still no direct evidence of murder, the combination of missing video, unusual movement near his cell, and inconsistencies in officer reporting makes the events of that night harder to fully verify. These details underscore the lingering uncertainty surrounding Epstein’s death and explain why the case continues to attract intense public scrutiny.
By phart [Ignore] 10,Feb,26 07:40 other posts 
so much time has passed folks could have written a entire set of files by now. Sad it has came to this but the facts are lost,gone,the man is dead,so you can't convict a dead man.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Feb,26 10:14 other posts 
It's provided by your own intelligence agencies, which are controlled by your side.
Evidence also has sources, which are evidence for the evidence being real.

You can convict the ones who killed him, and find the reason for it.
People who are likely to have dirt on powerful people keep ending up dead.
That's not acceptable. Those powerful people need to face the law.
We cannot have powerful people doing whatever they want, to whoever they want.
That's one of the most important principles that your founding fathers wrote in
The Constitution. It's why Lady Liberty wears a blindfold. Do you still remember?


By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Feb,26 07:14 other posts 
Epstein Files Reveal Prosecutors’ Announcement (On The Death Of Defendant
Jeffrey Epstein) Dated (One Day) Before His Death

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Newly released Epstein files include a draft statement attributed to federal prosecutors that is dated the day before Jeffrey Epstein was found dead.

The draft appears among at least 23 documents in the disclosure labeled as statements from the Southern District of New York’s U.S. Attorney’s Office.

One draft bears a date of Aug. 9, 2019, the day before Epstein was found dead in his Manhattan jail cell while awaiting trial on federal sex trafficking charges.


By Cody8789 [Ignore] 04,Feb,26 17:46 other posts 
Remember the guy that won the 1.6 billion dollar mega lotto about two months ago, after he paid taxes, fees and more fees for taking the whole amount up front, he got only 400 million and the government got one billion two hundred million dollars, is that really fair, it’s a fu@&ing scam.
By t-rex [Ignore] 04,Feb,26 18:18 other posts 
Never made sense to me, I understand all the tax consequences, but why do you claim to be giving away one amount and then give a different amount ,,,, if you only have half the amount to give away then advertise that amount. Like I said I understand it all, but it’s bullshit
By phart [Ignore] 04,Feb,26 21:46 other posts 
Yea, that does seem like a rip off. BUT I think I could barely manage with 400 million if I continued to buy walmart brand corn flakes and deodorant.
By t-rex [Ignore] 04,Feb,26 21:48 other posts 
If you don't want to be ripped off, you need consumer protections.

Here’s a list of major US consumer protection or regulatory bodies that were weakened, attacked, or targeted under the Trump administration with Elon Musk’s involvement:

🇺🇸 Consumer Protection Agencies | Weakened or Targeted:

1. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB)
What it is: A federal agency created after the 2008 financial crisis to protect consumers in financial markets (credit cards, loans, mortgages).
What happened: Director fired and leadership replaced.
Staff ordered to stop work, HQ temporarily closed, major layoffs.
DOGE (Department of Government Efficiency, led by Elon Musk) embedded within the agency and influenced shutdown and layoffs.
Proposed rules (e.g., data broker regulation) were cancelled.
Enforcement actions dropped, lawsuits dismissed or abandoned.
A federal judge blocked full dismantling, so it still exists in name, but its capacity is severely weakened.
Impact: Essentially gutted: most consumer complaint work halted, budget cut, staff slashed, priorities narrowed. Enforcement and protections sharply reduced.
Status: still legally existing but much weaker.

2. Federal Trade Commission (FTC)
What it is: The main U.S. consumer protection and antitrust agency.
What happened: President Trump fired the two Democratic commissioners, leaving the agency controlled entirely by Republicans.
Impact: Independence reduced: Political balance disrupted, which may weaken aggressive consumer protection and antitrust enforcement.

3. National Labor Relations Board (NLRB)
(Not strictly consumer protection, but relevant to labor rights which affect employees’ consumer power)
What it is: Protects workers’ rights to unionize and fair labor practices.
What happened: A board member was fired, dropping the board below quorum needed to act.
Impact: Operational disruption, investigations paused, reducing labor enforcement effectiveness.

4. United States Digital Service (USDS) / DOGE takeover
What happened: Trump reorganized USDS into a new entity (DOGE), firing many USDS tech staff.
Impact: Tech and regulatory oversight capabilities weakened, though this is more structural than direct consumer protection.

🧠 Elon Musk’s Role
Musk publicly called to “delete” the CFPB as a consumer watchdog.
In DOGE, his team influenced layoffs and shut down of CFPB operations.
Musk was not legally in charge of agencies, but as head of DOGE his influence contributed to restructuring and weakening enforcement in agencies like CFPB.
They only pay out the full $1.6 billion to people who chose the annuity jackpot; the total amount you’d receive if you chose annual payments over 30 years.
When winners choose the lump‑sum (cash) option, the amount they actually can take immediately is much lower than the advertised jackpot. For huge jackpots (~$1.6 billion), the lump sum is typically around 50–60 % of the advertised amount before taxes.

From a tax perspective, lottery winnings in the U.S. are treated as ordinary income,
just like wages or business income. So the high tax, federal and possibly state,
isn’t unique to lottery winnings.
Some states do not tax lottery winnings (e.g., Florida, Texas, California).
By Cody8789 [Ignore] 09,Feb,26 13:18 other posts 
No they don’t, there not paying out 1.6 million jackpot if they take the payments, maybe in your country but you have to pay fees plus state taxes and federal taxes, you might get about half if you take the payments.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 10,Feb,26 04:08 other posts 
It depends, if they advertise with a prize of €100,000 without small print below it, they are obligated by law to pay out the full amount, AFTER taxes. The fine print may say: “Any g@mbling tax is payable by the winner.”.

In the Netherlands there is a g@mbling tax (kansspelbelasting), currently 30.5%.
When our State Lottery advertises with the grand prize being like €16.8 million,
the one who wins it gets that exact amount.

There is a constant fight going on in my country, between companies who are trying to get away with false advertising and our government making laws to protect consumers from misleading pricing. It worked pretty damn good last time, but non-governmental Consumer organizations are already raising the alarm again. Then the Government regulators (with enforcement powers) respond later.

Here is one ChatGPT dump with some examples:

🇳🇱 Recent laws and regulation on pricing transparency in the Netherlands

1) Stricter rules on advertised prices
As of 1 January 2023, new Dutch rules were introduced that make it illegal for sellers to show misleading “from-for” (van/voor) pricing — for example, temporarily hiking a price just to show a big discount later. The “from” price (the price before discount) must be the lowest price actually used in the last 30 days.

2) Transparency about additional costs
Dutch regulations and enforcement by the Authority for Consumers & Markets (ACM) require that all mandatory costs (e.g., tourist tax, booking fees) must be included in the first price shown for holidays or other services. Hidden costs that only show up later in the booking process are considered misleading.

3) Penalties and enforcement
Companies can be fined significant amounts for misleading pricing — for instance several webshops were fined hundreds of thousands of euros earlier in 2024 for fake discounts that didn’t reflect real prior prices.

⚠️ So why do misleading prices still keep showing up?

1. Businesses find loopholes or new tricks
Although the law is stricter, merchants have adapted to use “recommended retail prices” or other reference prices that were never actually charged. These can still make discounts appear bigger than they really are, and this tactic is not fully covered by the current rules.

2. Enforcement and compliance are ongoing
The ACM and consumer groups frequently find continued non-compliance, especially in online travel deals and booking platforms. Even after warnings or investigations, some companies still fail to fully comply until they are directly sanctioned.

3. Regulation is complex and evolving
Price transparency law applies to many sectors (retail prices, webshops, travel sites, etc.) and enforcement evolves over time. Some misleading practices stay just outside the current legal language until a new update or enforcement case reveals a gap.

4. Consumer patterns and tech
Especially online, new marketing models (like auction systems with hidden charges, or dynamic pricing) create unexpected ways to mislead consumers that regulators are still catching up with.


By phart [Ignore] 09,Feb,26 17:11 other posts 
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Biden on the golf course!


By phart [Ignore] 09,Feb,26 16:46 other posts 
How many have done shit like this? I know damn well I have over the years! And lived to laugh about it!
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By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 03,Feb,26 06:28 other posts 
Nathan Macintosh Stand Up - We're Not Going To Mars - Tesla Robots
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By phart [Ignore] 03,Feb,26 10:11 other posts 
Well, the robots along with AI are going to solve ALOT of problems. Yes they will create a few, but for the most part, it will fix the issue of lack of WILLING employees. It will greatly increase efficiency , decrease cost of everything because of the eliminated cost of having humans do the job.
Robots will work 24-7 without overtime pay if their function is needed. no bitching either. No family leave, wow, all the advantages. I say bring em on and get them here quick.
Look over this page and see just what is involved cost wise to hire 1 employee for a job.
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Now look at the cost of robotics and it's advantages.
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And just a quick quote to reinforce what I said above,
"For example, many organizations find that vacuuming takes up approximately 30% of total facility cleaning time. When this repetitive task is automated, cleaning teams report a 25% boost in efficiency. The existing cleaning staff can then relocate their time to higher-value services like disinfecting, deep cleaning, and polishing"
Increases efficiency,that is 2d priorty after PROFIT,without profit,the rest is moot.


As for going to Mars, For years I was scratching my head why "going to the moon" was so important. Which I still don't think we ever went, it was movie magic. But anyway. alot of the tech we are using right now to argue at each other 1000's of mile apart is thanks to the space program. So a trip to mars, may not be feasible, but the tech coming from it will change the world in a positive way.it will take time. There have been times when poor people had a great idea nad it changed the world.But it took alot of people investing in the idea to get it mainstream. most of them rich as they had profited from other investments. You hate money so bad, But our world would be ALOT different if there was no rich people. we would be using rotary dial phones, which I still do at home. but our tech would be "old" because there would be no money to invest in improvments.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Feb,26 04:10 other posts 
Remember when you said that we need these billionaires, because they are JOB PROVIDERS?
And now you are supporting that these billionaires replace those jobs with AI and robots.
They are not just planning to eliminate cleaning. That is possible TODAY.
They are imagining processes that take 10,000 people now to be done by 100 max.
It only leaves some jobs for the most highly educated people.
You are not supporting a system that allows everyone to maximize their education.
So, tell me what the future you are imagining looks like. PLEASE?

Going to the moon was a PR STUNT. It was ONLY intended to show the US to be stronger than the USSR. If you're really susceptible to such a dumb conspiracy theory, you are not capable of logically analyzing anything going on today. Not even the RUSSIANS ever argued that the US didn't go to the moon. Do you think some dumb-ass on YouTube can come up with better arguments, than the Russians, who had their own damn impressive space program? You acknowledge the technology gains from going to the moon and what the US was capable after. All of that is in line with ACTUALLY going
to the moon, instead of faking it. It's probably more complicated and expensive to FAKE going to the moon, without missing any details that would debunk it, than actually going
to the moon. Then why WOULDN'T they actually go? Do you think they would risk giving the Russians the best PR EVER?

If you think that some YouTuber has actually debunked it, you're wrong. Those people
are idiots and their pathetic debunking attempts can be debunked in minutes. A socialist, 'America-hater', like me, would love another reason to show your country to be horrible.
If there is any REAL evidence that they faked going to the moon, I would mention it every other day.

There is NO GOOD REASON to go to Mars. You don't have to show your technical dominance anymore. We all know it, and are trying to become independent from it, because you cannot be trusted anymore. Going to Mars doesn't help convince anyone not to. The only reason why Elon Musk wants other people to go to Mars, is to glorify HIM. Why would the US spend trillions of PUBLIC money to glorify a PRIVATE wealthy man? It's NOT for the technology benefit, because there are way better challenges to do that, that also benefit humanity much more.

Musk argues that Mars is a backup for Earth, for when we destroy the livability of Earth. That's incredibly stupid, because it is about a billion times easier and cheaper to preserve Earth than to make Mars habitable. Until it IS habitable, it's NOT a backup for Earth. It will require a constant supply of resources from Earth to support any poor soul living on Mars.
By phart [Ignore] 04,Feb,26 07:55 other posts 
There will be plenty of jobs for people wanting to work even after robots are common. it is the lazy burger flipper types that think they should be able to make college educated wages flipping burgers that I don't care about if they work or not. Those are the type people that are a burden to the employer ,always wanting family leave for the 4th baby they can't afford and etc trying to make a career out of a job that requires no commitment or investment in 1's self.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 04,Feb,26 12:14 other posts 
How easy is it to replace burger flippers with robots?
Those are exactly the types of jobs that will be gone.

Jobs like hairdresser will probably survive. How comfortable will people feel with a robot using scissors and razors close to their eyes and major arteries?
Production jobs will be the first to go. A lot of them are already gone. Repair jobs will take a bit longer, but with production becoming cheaper, parts will become cheaper.
It's possible to design complicated machines to be easily repaired by robots, by just exchanging disposable parts.

They are not spending trillions on AI for fun. They are intending to replace MOST jobs. That means that people will be competing over the remaining jobs. And that means we will all be vulnerable to exploitation. That's what happens to things that are scarce but vital. It is why a drug that is easy to make can cost $50,000 per dose.

What are you considering to be "college educated wages"?
Does it allow a family food, housing, healthcare, raising children and paying for their education on a single income?
If not, what kind of education is required for that?
How many people are in the position to have that, today?

That burger flipper probably has no education. What can he/she do, to provide themselves food, housing, healthcare, raising 1 child and paying for its education?

Stop talking about those lazy people. I am asking for the most motivated and efficient burger flipper his employer have ever seen, working his ass off 50 hrs/week. He just has no education, because he needed to work, because his father died of colon cancer and his mother was working the graveyard shift as a nurse, so he needed to take care of his 2 siblings. In your world, he is fucked, unless he beats incredible odds.

This is the education level in your country:
No High School Diploma (less than high school): ~9%
High School Graduate (no college): ~28%
Some College / Associate Degree (no bachelor’s): ~25%*
Bachelor’s Degree (college education): ~23%
Advanced Degrees (master’s, professional, doctorate): ~14%
Which of them deserve to earn food, housing, healthcare, raising 1 child
and paying for its education?

Do we agree about the Moon and Mars now?
By phart [Ignore] 04,Feb,26 16:55 other posts 
the 25% and up, the 1's that invested something in themselves deserve interest on their investment.
Kinda sad really that so much education is needed, my grandfather had a 2d grade education and made a damn good living as a welder and machine operator,supported his wife and kid.but died due to heart failure.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 05,Feb,26 11:14 other posts 
So the 37% below it should just live with their parents or in their car?
Yeah, why is that, that so much education is needed to make a living?
By phart [Ignore] 05,Feb,26 13:59 other posts 
good paying jobs require education. You can't run a cnc machine with a 9th grade education. You can't fly a airplane on a 10th grade education. Or let's put that another way, would YOU want a person with a 10th grade education flying YOU around?
do you want a surgeon doing your heart bypass with a associates degree?
Do you want a high school grad formulating your medicines?
Well if you don't want these things, you have to have education available for them to obtain. And if they obtain the education, score well, they deserve "interest" on the investment they made in themselves by earning a better wage than a burger flipper. Burger flippers that have done it for 15 years obviously don't have ambition to do any better so they would probably still be at moms anyway.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 06,Feb,26 03:34 other posts 
Can you think this trough a bit more than such a generic idea.

We are not talking about "good paying jobs", we are talking about being able to LIVE from a job. The minimum is being able to rent a small apartment, to buy food, and to have access to healthcare. Anything less is a risk to your survival.
You are saying that this minimum is only possible with a collage education.
That means without it, you cannot build yourself a LIFE.

Jobs that required a bachelor, in the 1980s, those were GOOD paying jobs. Father drove home in an expensive car, to go home to his family, living in a big house, with kids who were all set to go to university. Today, it's about the minimum, to get by. There are not a lot jobs requiring a bachelor, that would make it possible to buy a house in the current market. You need a couple now, who both have such a job, to be able to buy a house, and it's not even a big one.
By phart [Ignore] 06,Feb,26 20:57 other posts 
and whos fault is it that 1 person can't keep up a household?
Over regulation of industry drove up cost, they have to cut cost to maintain profit, the purpose of running a business. Labor is a cost that can be cut or eliminated with automation.
Those regulations are due to liberals democrats and unions. they claim to push for higher wages but then in turn make the cost of doing business to high for the employers. My cousin paid autoworker union dues for several years and said he got absolutely NOTHING for those dues.
By mr_blue [Ignore] 07,Feb,26 04:49 other posts 
Regulations protect consumers.....have you forgotten about Dupont? PG&E ,teflon ?how many more corporations will screw you over for a profit?....
Say you and your buddies on a work crew get a new system of working put in place,all of you know it's unsafe,are you going to go to work in an unsafe environment for your corporate overlord or are you all going to stick together to call out the unsafe way of working?
Yeah unions really fucked up the USA didn't they?
What about all the law enforcement agency unions? Almost every police officer is part of a Union,are they fucking up the USA?
By phart [Ignore] 07,Feb,26 07:01 other posts 
when the unions helped the barefooted shoe makers afford shoes, they may have been a good thing.
I did work in a dangerous job,that's why I wound up injured. no union,no nothing. i was just as hurt being non union as if I had paid in dues for years. Shit happens in a work place. union or not.
But just as with the postal service, the unions now have it so screwed up you can't even fire people.
when a janitor sleeps in the break room half his shift, and a temp worker goes to pickup a broom to clean up a mess he made and gets wrote up because it's not his job and the sleeping janitor gets a bonus for it,that's fucked up, but it happened to a friend of mine that worked at a usps warehouse over Christmas. the union protects the cops that fuck up and get fired from 1 place,and they just go elsewhere,because the record keeping is in favor of the cop,not the people. do some reading before you support unions in modern times.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 07,Feb,26 07:45 other posts 
Analyses comparing state union membership rates with fatal occupational injury rates have generally found that states with higher union membership have lower fatality rates than states with low union membership. For example, states with union membership above ~20 % tend to have lower fatal injury rates per 100 000 workers than states with very low union membership.
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The US averages 3.5 on the job fatalities / 100,000 workers,
The Netherlands has 0.4 on the job fatalities / 100,000 workers.
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That's because our workplaces are heavily regulated.
You don't need a union if the government protects you.
By phart [Ignore] 07,Feb,26 08:11 other posts 
And there is a government run system that "protects" us.Called OSHA. That in my opinion null and voids the need for unions and union dues and union boss's.
By Ananas2xLekker [Ignore] 09,Feb,26 07:08 other posts 
If your democracy actually worked, you would be correct.
But it doesn't, because your politicians take money from corporations.
Your politics has not listened to the people in a very long time.


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