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It is honestly worth watching.
I am sure this will make some people's heads explode, and it does require the viewer to have a modicum of empathy and an open mind, but it's worth a shot.
uncomfortable conversations with a black man part 1
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His general appearance and his well thought out words suggested that he was not just a random man making an eloquent statement, upon Google-ing him, he is Emmanuel Acho, a former NFL linebacker and now a sports analyst featured on ESPN.
That's a compliment btw!
Forgive me but what the hell has happened to basic law and order? If everyone thinks like Chicago,we are just supposed to sit under a tree and watch rioters burn the entire earth and do nothing?
Police can't protect,the military can't protect,and we aint supposed to protect ourselves?
What the fuck is going on?
You heard it hear first- this whole whinge will do NOTHING for the blacks. In fact, I predict crime to go up big time.
I hate to think where my anger would lead me,jail probably
This violence does nothing to further any agenda.
And to take away methods of preventing escalation of protest,is going backwards. Nets, silly string,whatever the hello it takes to prevent it from blowing up should be encouraged.
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Here's some REAL statistics to chew on instead of some made up bullshit by a liberal nutjob!
From the F.B.I. uniform crime report...
10 million arrests were made in the U.S. last year.
Police officers were involved in 1004 FATAL shootings.
41 of those were unarmed people. 19 were white (anyone able to name just ONE of those people?), 9 were black, 13 were other races (anyone able to name just ONE of these people?).
89 police officers killed in the line of duty. No outrage for them racist bastards, right?! They got what they had coming to them, right?
There's a fine line between a civil society and an uncivilized one. That line is the police! Most of the time a thankless low paying job for all the bullshit that they put up with. Our leaders all have sworn an oath to protect us from violence foreign AND domestic. The ones allowing these things to continue in all these city's are complete failures and should be held accountable. No law AND order, there's no society.
Now, I ask again, do you believe as the B.L.M. people do, that The Police should in fact be "De-Funded"?
All your statistics are saniticed. They don't tell the whole story.
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The ruse of protests are an excuse to loot rob & kill. No, baby, The protests are to bring to the attention of the general population how bad some practices are
Looting, robbing, and killing is done by trash and they should be rounded up and locked up. You conservatives always think us liberals are accepting of unlawful activity.
If that were true, we would stop hounding Trump.
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Be safe. Regardless of our political positions, I wish you the best.
Black CRIMES Matter!!
No outrage for black on black crime...
"Defunding the police does not mean stripping a department entirely of its budget, or abolishing it altogether. It’s just about scaling police budgets back and reallocating those resources to other agencies, says Lynda Garcia, policing campaign director at the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights. “A lot of what we advocate for is investment in community services — education, medical access… You can call it ‘defunding,’ but it’s just about directing or balancing the budget in a different way.”
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I guess the truth of defunding doesn't fit your rabid narrative.
"NO police to be summoned when needed" is NOT a result of defunding. You're making stuff up, you unpleasant half-wit.
You've REALLY hurt my feelings.
Next time you claim a debilitating health issue, then post a picture of it, claiming to be you, and I come along with heartfelt wishes (despite my disdain for your political views), and post it on your picture, then learn that it was all bullshit in order to seek some sort of sick twisted sympathy or attention, perhaps then, I'll find some special words for you too! Until then, fuck off!
That was meant for one shit for brains. Why you'd wanna insert yourself into that portion of the conversation, escapes me. Maybe just maybe she makes you horny. To each their own. Go for it!
Nevertheless, I'm not "misunderstanding" a damn thing about defunding whether it be by 10% or 100% like Minnesota is trying to do. The VAST majority of Police officers uphold the law every single day. If anything, they should recieve increases as the jobs pay is shit for what the brave men and women of our law enforcement go through. Because of the actions of a few, oh yeah, A FEW! The whole system should be gutted and reformed? I don't think so!
You claimed that "NO police" would be able to be "summoned when needed". It's there in your post, as clear as day.
That's NOT TRUE. I point it out and you engage in bullshit sophistry to try and make out that you're not a fuckwit who misunderstood the concept of defunding. Not buying it - so go fuck yourself.
Let's try appealing to common sense:
If a Police force was "defunded" by 10%, and the money saved was spent on mental health workers, and that resulted in less crime and safer streets would you be in favour? In a large Nation you could even trial that approach on a small scale to see if it works.
Personally, from what I've seen on my television screen, reforming the whole system sounds like a good idea. Paying cops more also sounds worthy of consideration - then maybe they would stop kneeling on necks and killing people, or pushing over Seniors in Buffalo.
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And in my opinion they saved the city
I hope your son stays safe.
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IT TAKES SOMEONE LIKE SCORPS TO FUCK UP A GOOD THING. HE WASN'T BORN, HE WAS EVICTED.
Read this folks,read,then tell me higher,richer,powers,Soros,for example are not involved.You have politicians kids tweeting info to the rioters.
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and you still have your knee on a handcuffed man's neck. You're a murderer.
As I said, nothing would justify his death but I'm still not clear what would have been the cause for the 3 police officers to have him pinned on the ground.
edit, a quick googling,
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Well, if the death of a man was going to keep Chauvin from being implicated, charged and possibly convicted of that illeg@lity, I can't imagine that being charged with murder is going to yield better results.
Sucide watch? Is that not tighter security for the cop? Could it be a way to hide the fact he may be talking?THeorys but there is more to the story than we are being told.
Making sure he was dead perhaps and couldnt' talk?
The theator in your mind needs to pull back the curtains a little so you can see a bigger screen!
At which point OR what exactly makes the actions of the police officer in question, racially motivated!? That was not a rhetorical question, yet, no one, even the menace answered it. What part of what happened justifies the ridiculous BLM movement/members to get involved? Is this another case of it's ok to have a dedicated education fund, colleges and many other things solely for ONE race, but NO other race can do or say the same? Why is that (also NOT a rhetorical question)?
12 black lives were snuffed out or extinguished this past weekend in St. Louis alone, by other blacks. 21 were stamped out in Chicago this past weekend. Where's the outcry! I also asked that question in your thread and once again, not one single response. Now I ask you, why even no responses to my questions? I would like to hear other points of view. These aren't flippant questions or an attempt to be incendiary. They are real questions.
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Is it ONLY acceptable to maim and or kill a member of the same race as you are, now? THEN, It's ok!
How about the Police, since EVERTIME a black person gets pulled over or commit a crime and a white police officer is involved race is invoked. Why is that. How should something like that be handled so as racism doesn't get decried every single time? The scream of racism is so over used and played out I'm personally sick of it. Just because two people of different colors interact with one another in opposition of one another doesn't automatically qualify the act as RACIST!
As far as posting questions and not receiving a response, I can't answer that HOWEVER I fear some members might not feel comfortable posting their thoughts if their views differed from whomever.
The death of George Floyd is an ugly mark on our country as us as her people.
"thousands of black men women and children are killed in African countries every day, but l didn't see one other country care one iota about any of them, but when one BLACK AMERICAN dies, the world melts down. thousands of blacks in other countries die every day, theyre shot, run over, bludgeoned to death, but not one even makes it to the news. all l see now is a whole of idiots rioting and causing 'drama' for the world to see. l see that now that they have trashed the country, theyre all lining up at the white house to trash it too.. shows how much love you all have for the country. gee lets go and trash the white house, blame trump because he's not Moses and cant part the sea and make it all better with the wave of his magic wand. l would actually like to see this George Floyds rap sheet before l make a comment about the man, as most times these guys get shot, theyre running from a crime. l seen one a few years ago about a black guy getting shot, right after he walked out of a shop that he regularly 'shopped for free' at by walking in and taking what he wanted and with camera footage of him throwing the shopkeeper to the side to get his 'free' ciggies, he gets shot and then his momma wondered why they shot him???? 'but hes a good boy' ... yeah, now they want to riot here too????. and the looting??? l thought is theft??? lets loot real peoples jobs and fuck the place to make it right??? that doesn't make sense, protests are about joining for a common cause, looting and rioting is thugs and mugs using this as their excuse to widen that gap of 'us and them' a bit more, the ones looting are no better than the cop with knee of a possible criminals throat... its all bullshit... and anyone in these crimes against the honest people just trying to make a living, who is going to riot over the millions of dollars of riots????"
And......
"yeah, like l said, what about the thousands that have died and are still dying from china flu. didn't see any riot over the chinese, and trump trying to sever the ties there??? everyone that stole, rioted, looted and insighted violence, should all have their heads held under water till they behave themselves. humans matter, no matter what colour, and this isn't a colour thing, this was one arsehole cop who was known to have been overly hard handed and wasn't stood down earlier, once the hand cuffs go on. he is arrested, there was no need for the rest of the bullshit from him or the tens of thousands that went berserk on the streets, it doesn't help ... that's not how you make a bad situation better. the news reporters are all only there for their 'award' for being in a dangerous spot. and a lot of these idiots love a camera to play too. ... its the way humans have evolved since the invention of the hand held recording device."
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I don’t think it’s about Floyd’s death at all it’s just an excuse for people in big cities to behave badly the city of Lebanon is 98 percent Puerto Rican’s and they are having an up rising they need to learn in this country we have laws I don’t go to their country and raise hell
My question to you is: Do you want to trade places?
On the first post I rebuted
This man, Floyd, passed a counterfeit $20 bill when paying at a store. I have had bad bills passed to me. Regardless of his rap sheet, was this enough to murder him?
The thousands killed in African countries should be something the 54 countries of Africa should be responsible for. Idi Amin killed for years. Pandemics come and go with no help from the local governments. Most countries try to help. Doctors without borders, Unicef, the Red Cross, but anything else is rebuffed by the local governments
As far as the China flue is concerned, it wasn't caused by a Minneapolis cop
Those were my rebuttals. I did not see your rebuttal or comment
Oh, maybe I should pretend and say that I was in the process of rebooting my phone or whatever and when I opened the site, I couldn't help but notice all the HATEFUL POSTS about me and our country. Yeah, hate runs rampant here in the United States. Kumbaya, all the happy law abiding folks with love in their heads, hearts and mouths live elsewhere, certainlynothere. And you, the person who she has dubbed, the "main attraction", she has you perfectly trained to eat the treats fed to you straight from her hand.
"you people cant even work out your differences between black and white, and hate is something you must all be taught at school, judging by they way the country behaves, you see it here every day, black/white, class, and even your grammar police love to toss shit at each other, it must be a fucked up boring arse country, so much bitching and no fixing ... just yell at each some more and show us all that America isn't great, its just full of hot air, guns and self righteousness, all trying to one up each other useless shit, and when the real shit hits the fan, you all start the shit tossing again, blame game everyone, and at the end of it all, it MUST BE TRUMP that caused it. he gets the blame for everything "
And you, the person who she has dubbed, the main attraction, she has you perfectly trained to eat the treats fed to you straight from her hand.
this tidbit comes from Bella
Treats are just that, treats. But, you seem to think I agree with all she posts. I don't. However, an exchange of views is always healthy. If you give the other person some slack due to their form of speak you will see that while you may not agree, you can still be on the high road.
That first sentence tells me you are both hiding from her and at the same time, hoping she reads you post.
As far as whom is to blame, both of you are. This site is big enough that neither one of you two need to meet up.
And what about Trump? do you think if and/or when he loses the election all his supporters will continue to support him? Or will they abandon him to his fate?
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( 💗 Y 💗 ) Just popping by to say G'day !!! and I hope you had a super sexy day Rogerdhat💋 💗Lix💗
Hey, as my punching bag, she probably has you thinking that you don't bring anything to the table. Continue to be her main cheerleader and warrior. You look out for her and I can't imagine why.
I look out for her because she is a FRIEND. Do I have to explain that to you?
The continuous fight between Bella and Lix draws one in to a fight that neither can win. It's true that Bella dances around me like a punching bag. But it's mostly shadow boxing. Lix is no better althow she doesn't put me down
I like this thread. But to talk about meals when there's so many other more important threads seems to me a waste of good copy. In the last two weeks I brought up gun ownership. CC brought up this one. I'm proud to have contributed.
I surely don't dance around, nor do I dance around you. For the most part, I try to ignore you. You, my punching bag? That's a hoot, you best look at other member's post and how they address you.
And who are you to judge what is important or worthy for discussion? Members can exchange thoughts about food without calling anyone a "Village Idiot" or anything on between.
BTW "Who are you to judge" is a punch thrown my way. Do I care? Do I care what shortfused members say about me?
Members can exchange thoughts about food without calling anyone a "Village Idiot" or anything on between. Yet, that's how I was refered to by Scorps. Either you are out of touch with your fellow contributors or don't give a damn.I'm glad you and Lix are not fighting. Just bickering (fighting for position).
*lix* might be battling for position, not me. I'm comfortable with who I am and where I am.
Suppose this had been your wife or son. You would not be enraged? You say, How about the Police, since EVERTIME a black person gets pulled over or commit a crime and a white police officer is involved race is invoked. Why is that. How should something like that be handled so as racism doesn't get decried every single time? Maybe, when the victims of racist crimes correlate to the percentage of blacks to the total population
Scorps, you are sick of calling it racist. Tell me, how many
White teenagers get shot in the back after getting stopped for a driving violation. How many white women get killed by police raids?
You want me to tell you something? YOU ARE A RACIST TRYING TO SOUND LOGICAL TO HIDE IT. SHAME ON YOU. THIS IS AS RACIST AS IT COMES.
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YOU WHO THINKS WOMEN SHOULD OPEN THEIR LEGS EVERY TIME YOU WANT SOME. KEEP THEM BAREFOOT AND PREGNANT
YOU WHO IS AGAINST SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.
YOU WHO THINKS THE CLOWN LIVING IN THE WHITE HOUSE IS THE BEST PRESIDENT BY FAR.
YOU WHO SOILS HIS PANTS THINKING ABOUT THE Mexicans running across the border. You are a fascist. A racial fascist
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Your beloved POTUS has, to put it mildly, a chequered past when it comes to racism. One example (there's more if you want it):
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Given just those 2 elements, if I was a black American and saw a guy get murdered (a la George Floyd) I would be angry as hell. If there was a local (peaceful) protest I would probably join it.
If I then saw my POTUS (yes, he SHOULD speak for ALL Americans) behave as he has over the last few days I would be even angrier.
Does any of that mean the murder was racially aggravated? We don't know - the scumbag hasn't been in court yet. To say it definitely WASN'T racially motivated (or aggravated) is as screwy as to say it definitely WAS.
How you, as a Nation, learn to live in peace with yourselves is above my pay grade. However, leaders seeking conciliation and respect for each other would be a good start. I fear you will not see that from the present resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Perhaps our criminal justice system is skewed, and there are issues in our criminal justice system that need to be reviewed and overhauled. ie, you might be in prison for life without the possibility of parole because of multiple d/rug offenses but be paroled for murder. That's messed up.
Do you think #MeToo would have been so much of an issue if sexism and sexual misconduct wasn't such a massive stain on human interactions? If things ring true for a Nation, a gender or any other distinct group, a movement will prosper. If it's a "non-issue" it will wither.
The fact that there are hundreds of George Floyd/BLM protests now going on outside the US confirms that you're not alone, as a Nation, in having problems with racism - it's just a question of scale, in some respects. I was, however, trying to give a personal perspective as to why the US is in such a state NOW.
White boy rick was released from the Oaks Correction Facility in Michigan in April 2017 and turned over to U.S. Marshals. Wershe is being housed at TTH Kissimee FL after spending nearly three decades behind bars in Michigan as a nonviolent drug offender.
His incarceration is a reflection of our justice system being messed up.
Sorry, our JUDICIAL system needs to be overhauled.
I saw another about Cyntoia Brown, that reinforced my view that you're not quite hitting all the right notes!
I'm tempted to ask why, if there are so many sensible US citizens (like yourself) around, you are so badly-served by your politicians?
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I have not watched the footage but no behaviour by Mr Floyd justifies the behaviour of the arresting cops. Over here cops wear vest cams and this can confirm the events as they happened. I agree with you, where is the vest cam footage?
I may be wrong, but I seem to recall a incident not long ago when a US cops shot dead a woman in her car, she had been the one to call out the cops and amazingly there was no vest cam footage there either. it does make you wonder.
Being a rational person, I hope, I can't understand why they do that and the complain that the police were aggressive. Without their struggle to avoid cuffing there would be no incident.
The United States is not a third world country and I've often wondered whether disgraceful crimes like this happen anywhere else. Whether there is hate, bigotry and racial tension anywhere else. I've asked the question and two members did respond. People are people and "he's" a reflection of me, "you" are a reflection of her.....
This is not that common but BAME communities, certainly in large cities, do see racism in many police actions.
BAME = Black, Asian and Multi Ethnic
I've always lived in Michigan and it wasn't until 2017 that I ventured outside of the United States and saw some of Europe. I don't know that I can even articulate what/how I felt as a "tourist". This leads me to wonder, generally speaking, are Americans viewed as ignorant, hot headed, barbaric, vulgar heathens? Yes, sadly in the 21st century, racism still exists. If there is a utopian society somewhere, please tell me where.
The point that I was making was that in the case I have seen on television the suspect who is fighting and struggling has brought the more physical response on themselves. I am amazed at even when on the floor and being cuffed that the suspect continues to fight and struggle.
If the arrest is erroneous accept it got to the station and with your lawyer argue your case.
I am only referring here to the incidents that I have seen on television, in almost every case the struggling suspect has a criminal record.
The researchers found that the percentage of black men with a felony conviction increased from 13% in 1980 to 33% in 2010 (compared to 5% and 13% for all adult men during these periods, respectively). They also estimate that the percentage of black men who had experienced imprisonment increased from 6% in 1980 to 15% in 2010 (compared to 2% and 6% for all adult men during these periods, respectively)
This shows that black men are arrested more often than whites
Your using 40 year old & 10 year old statistics as if they still apply TODAY!
Keep fanning the flames, your good at it, as evidenced by your inability to ever shut the fuck up. Your a habitual liar and a complete ass.
Now, kneel down and apologize for being white privileged. Grovel at the boots of violent offenders, beg for forgiveness of your transgressions against humanity.
Do it fool!
Between 2013 and 2019, police in the United States killed 7,666 people, according to data compiled by Mapping Police Violence, a research and advocacy group. On May 25, 2020 at 9:25pm (02:25 GMT, May 26), George Floyd, a 46-year-old resident of Minnesota, became yet another victim of police brutality as he was killed in police custody while unarmed. Floyd's death has prompted thousands of protesters to march in cities around the country demanding justice and an end to police violence.
The number of police killings in the US disproportionately affects African Americans. Despite only making up 13 percent of the US population, Black Americans are two-and-a-half times as likely as white Americans to be killed by the police.
The map below shows how disproportionate these killings are across the US's 50 states.
Unsurprisingly, the three largest states - California, Texas and Florida - have the highest total number of killings of Black people by police officers. Once these figures are adjusted for the population size and demographics, in nearly every state, African Americans face a significantly higher risk of being killed by police officers than white Americans.
In Utah, the African Americans comprise just 1.06 percent of the population but they accounted for 10 percent of police killings over the past seven years - a disproportional rate of 9.21 times. In Minnesota, Black Americans are nearly four times as likely to be killed by law enforcement, with Black victims comprising 20 percent of those killed, despite comprising only 5 percent of the overall population.
HOW CAN THIS BE? ASSHOLE SCORPS SAYS THE NUMBERS ARE OLD.
If they showed all the peaceful, co-operative suspects being detained people would switch channels like a flash. By definition, therefore, we get a skewed vision of how people interact with the Police.
You're right, though: no behaviour by Mr Floyd justifies what happened to him. Even if you're being arrested for the most heinous crime, you still have rights.
I am not defending the police here or anywhere else I am just saying fighting against arrest generally is a mugs game.
You're trying to impress an audience?
You're seeing if you can provoke the cop so you can sue him later?
Doesn't really matter does it - the cops are the ones AT WORK, trained and under a massive obligation to do the right thing, even when at risk to their own personal safety. That's what they signed up for, right?
Yeah, fighting them is a mug's game. A lot of criminals are mugs, but there are also mugs who haven't broken the law (or have done so in a very minor way) and NEITHER group should be subjected to extrajudicial killing.
PS. I think we are "on the same page" Andthisisme!
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Phart, Huxley, I want you to know why I prefer mail-in voting. I'm going to mail my vote. I want it to get lost and eliminated. I will be able to blame the Republicans for stealing my vote. Obviously if they are loosing they will try these shenanigans.
"the bigger the audience .. the more belligerent"?
Sweeping generalisations and personal opinion, that's all that is.
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